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1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 02:25 PM Oct 2012

I am curious what distinguishes a likely from an unlikely voter

Considering that I have not missed voting in a national election in over forty years it is likely enough that I will vote in the 2012 race too, but reading other's posts got me to wondering just how the polling outfits determine how one respondent might be a likely voter whereas another might not. I suppose they could simply ask if a person intends to vote or not, though I'm not too sure how accurate a result even that question might generate. Anybody know how they tell?

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I am curious what distinguishes a likely from an unlikely voter (Original Post) 1-Old-Man Oct 2012 OP
A likely voter has already voted, if possible. An unlikely voter is in a category of people... porphyrian Oct 2012 #1
+1! uponit7771 Oct 2012 #14
The difference is... budkin Oct 2012 #2
How is this measured ? uponit7771 Oct 2012 #15
Good question. lalalu Oct 2012 #3
My understanding is they look at a person's voting history NoPasaran Oct 2012 #4
But the pollsters don't have the time or resources to do that kind of research do they?.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #12
What makes you believe that? NoPasaran Oct 2012 #13
... SCliberal091294 Oct 2012 #5
I have had calls from a local candidate's campaign. Silver Swan Oct 2012 #6
In polls of likely voters, that is usually the first question. Curmudgeoness Oct 2012 #7
It is probably based on the desired outcome. aandegoons Oct 2012 #8
Depends on the LV model used nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #9
Not true for Gallup's model. They do not ask about 2004. tritsofme Oct 2012 #11
This is Gallup's explanation: tritsofme Oct 2012 #10
 

porphyrian

(18,530 posts)
1. A likely voter has already voted, if possible. An unlikely voter is in a category of people...
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 02:28 PM
Oct 2012

...who may or may not have voted yet, but that help the MSM make the polls "show" a horse race by excluding them.

budkin

(6,722 posts)
2. The difference is...
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 02:28 PM
Oct 2012

Unlikely voters are people who are registered but don't really consider it a high priority to actually go to the polls to vote. That is why GOTV efforts are huge. To convince them how important it is.

 

lalalu

(1,663 posts)
3. Good question.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 02:28 PM
Oct 2012

I was told it was based on various demographic factors and how you answer their questions. I think it is determined by each pollster. It has never sounded legitimate to me.
Maybe someone has more detailed knowledge.

NoPasaran

(17,291 posts)
4. My understanding is they look at a person's voting history
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 02:29 PM
Oct 2012

If it reveals that you vote in just about every election, you are a likely voter. If you've been registered for ten years but you've only voted once or twice in all that time, you're not a likely voter.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
12. But the pollsters don't have the time or resources to do that kind of research do they?....
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 02:43 PM
Oct 2012

...I personally think they're taking the number of registered voters and multiplying by a certain percentage to get as low a number of Likely Voters for the Democrats as possible. In the meantime, they're using a much higher percentage to arrive at the number of GOP Likely Voters.

For instance, a pollster calls 1000 Republican and Democratic Party Registered Voters. The pollster multiplies the Democratic Party RVs by 90% getting 900 (45%) Likely Voters (LVs) because, according to the pollsters, "everybody knows" Dems are less enthusiastic about voting. At the same time, they use a multiple of 95% to arrive at the number of GOP LVs which equals 950 (47.5%).

That allows the pollsters to present the following poll:

Dem LVs = 45%
GOP LVs = 47.5%

NoPasaran

(17,291 posts)
13. What makes you believe that?
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 07:48 PM
Oct 2012

The same database that identifies registered voters also contains information about how often those voters actually cast a ballot. There's no need to use some algorithm to create a sample of "likely" out of a larger pool of "registered" if you already have the actual information available.

SCliberal091294

(213 posts)
5. ...
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 02:30 PM
Oct 2012

Another major question pollsters ask is if they voted in 2010. If they didn't then they are not considered likely voters. A lof of Democrats especially minorities did not vote in 2010. This can only be good news for the Obama team.

Silver Swan

(1,110 posts)
6. I have had calls from a local candidate's campaign.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 02:31 PM
Oct 2012

They ask me how likely I am to vote, on a scale ranging from "very likely" down to "very unlikely." I assume anyone who says likely, somewhat likely or very likely, is called a likely voter.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
7. In polls of likely voters, that is usually the first question.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 02:32 PM
Oct 2012

They count on the respondent to give a factual answer, just as they count on the rest of the answers to be factual.

If someone answers no or says that they are not registered to voter, the poll or likely voters would terminate the call at that point. A poll using all respondents would often include many people who will not vote in the election, even if they do have opinions on who they prefer.

aandegoons

(473 posts)
8. It is probably based on the desired outcome.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 02:32 PM
Oct 2012

Pollsters massage the numbers all the time to make sure their polls are in-line with what they expect or want them to say. It would be interesting to see the demographic changes compared to the results over time for each pollster.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
9. Depends on the LV model used
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 02:32 PM
Oct 2012

Gallup, you have voted in the last two elections... period. This excludes those who voted in the Presidential in 2008 that will also vote in 2012... as well as newly registered voters and those who just voted in the Primaries for the first time.

Some polling companies are a tad more generous, but not much.

This is why LV models also tend to oversample the South, which has a heavy retired population that TENDS TO VOTE.

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