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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts) Sun Oct 21, 2012, 03:52 PM Oct 2012

How Does Ras, PPP, And Gravis Account For The Fact They Exclude Cell Phone Users?

At a minimum, excluding cellphones means these polls are increasingly reliant on statistical weighting. They might make up for a lack of young people, for instance, by counting several times the answers from the few younger respondents. Peter Miller, a recent president of the American Association for Public Opinion Research, points out the root problem with weighting: “The more you rely on weights, the more you risk being wrong for reasons you don’t understand.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-political-polls/2012/10/12/21408264-13de-11e2-ba83-a7a396e6b2a7_story_1.html

Here's a Survey USA Poll:

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=ac0d63ea-75f1-42aa-ba9c-e6955f64c76b

There is a huge difference in cell phone and landline respondents.

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How Does Ras, PPP, And Gravis Account For The Fact They Exclude Cell Phone Users? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 OP

I'm 58... ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #1

They Would Probably Miss You Because The Assumption Is Cell Phone Only Voters Are Younger DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #2

If indeed that is true, it makes sense to me... PotatoChip Oct 2012 #5

I am a senior with only a cell phone. longship Oct 2012 #3

That's The Point Peter Miller Is Trying To Make DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #4

How does Gravis account for the fact that they don't Poll ANYONE , they Just make shit up! Nt pkdu Oct 2012 #6

ProudProgressiveNow

(6,129 posts)

1. I'm 58...

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Sun Oct 21, 2012, 03:54 PM

Oct 2012

and have had a cell phone since 95.... no land line since.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)

2. They Would Probably Miss You Because The Assumption Is Cell Phone Only Voters Are Younger

Reply to ProudProgressiveNow (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 21, 2012, 03:55 PM

Oct 2012

“The more you rely on weights, the more you risk being wrong for reasons you don’t understand.”

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)

5. If indeed that is true, it makes sense to me...

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #2)

Sun Oct 21, 2012, 04:08 PM

Oct 2012

Landline users tend to be more rural. And rural populations tend to be older... at least in my area, that is certainly the case.

We didn't have coverage around here until just a little over a year ago.

longship

(40,416 posts)

3. I am a senior with only a cell phone.

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Sun Oct 21, 2012, 04:05 PM

Oct 2012

Too bad their models do not work. There are many of us technically literate baby boomers who embrace things like iPhones, Linux, and have been using the Inet for years.

The pollsters ignore us to their failure.

No cell phone polling?
No soup for you!

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)

4. That's The Point Peter Miller Is Trying To Make

Reply to longship (Reply #3)

Sun Oct 21, 2012, 04:07 PM

Oct 2012

Don't make assumptions what the electorate looks like.

pkdu

(3,977 posts)

6. How does Gravis account for the fact that they don't Poll ANYONE , they Just make shit up! Nt

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Sun Oct 21, 2012, 04:09 PM

Oct 2012

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