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bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:03 PM Oct 2012

I have a friend who is saying the most hateful things

She has watched all the anti Obama movies and believes them.

She has used words to describe Obama as "communist, deceitful, lying, murdering, traitor" who is destroying our nation.

I don't know how to handle it. Should I just say nothing. I have said plenty in general on my Facebook who she is a friend on there also (and maybe it will kill our friendship) but not to her personally.

It is very sad that the hate that has brainwashed her is so rampant with many. I feel pretty down about the extreme hate.

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I have a friend who is saying the most hateful things (Original Post) bkkyosemite Oct 2012 OP
and you are friends with this sad, deluded critter.....why? Skittles Oct 2012 #1
Exactly. Darth_Kitten Oct 2012 #8
Agreed - silence signifies your agreement with her. The WORST thing you can do is stopbush Oct 2012 #17
yup Skittles Oct 2012 #23
Why is that person a "friend?" Seriously. I just don't understand that. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #2
Agree with her that Obama killed Linconln and caused the great depression... hyperboe jokes .. uponit7771 Oct 2012 #3
Ask her to explain what "communism" is. Darth_Kitten Oct 2012 #4
Communism is when evil gubbermint "spreads the wealth". frostfern Oct 2012 #25
gosh H2O Man Oct 2012 #5
Are we voting? fleur-de-lisa Oct 2012 #6
anyone on my Facebook page who posts dumb shit like that is immediately CatWoman Oct 2012 #7
It was on another site I just happened to look on. bkkyosemite Oct 2012 #11
I had a run in with a friend today too...he posted that liberals.... AzSweet Oct 2012 #9
Well I did not know her political thoughts until recently. bkkyosemite Oct 2012 #10
send her a sympathy e-card for the sad death of her mind. niyad Oct 2012 #14
I had one blow my mind just a few days ago with an anti-Obama rant. proud2BlibKansan Oct 2012 #12
Yes I agree. She was saying the things like that the last couple of weeks bkkyosemite Oct 2012 #13
I guess that is what I am trying to say here that I am "stunned" that those you know bkkyosemite Oct 2012 #15
Yes. It's bizarre. proud2BlibKansan Oct 2012 #31
I sympathize with you jackbenimble Oct 2012 #36
Nothing like kind, courageous, intellegent, good sense of humor, Cha Oct 2012 #16
I can't be friends with people like that, you are better than I am. sarcasmo Oct 2012 #18
That is not truly your friend. MineralMan Oct 2012 #19
Why do you call that asshole a friend. Dump her and find people that don't have their heads up bluestate10 Oct 2012 #20
I'm with you. My sister has stopped talking to me reflection Oct 2012 #21
Ask her if she has seen any of the Pro-Obama films or if chowder66 Oct 2012 #22
Tell her as bad as she thinks Obama is Robme is worse. Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #24
I have stated much of what you said on my Facebook which she can see. I just did not know bkkyosemite Oct 2012 #38
Could you ever count on the friendship of someone ruled by irrational hatred? aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #26
The high school cliquishness is strong in this thread... makokun Oct 2012 #27
It's not "politics" the OP is repelled by... marions ghost Oct 2012 #37
surely you are joking? this isn't about relinquishing a friendship over whether or not you both niyad Oct 2012 #45
Saying nothing is the WORST thing you can do. Warpy Oct 2012 #28
I don't know that I'm so sure about that lolly Oct 2012 #32
Do you honestly want anyone out there thinking you agree with that shit? Warpy Oct 2012 #33
It would be rather difficult for them to get that impression on FB lolly Oct 2012 #48
That is what I have been doing. Just putting a like thumbs up to something she posts other than bkkyosemite Oct 2012 #39
You really don't have to talk politics with your friends. LeftyMom Oct 2012 #29
I'd say this bluestateguy Oct 2012 #30
I did that with my mother Mariana Oct 2012 #47
Sometimes Dyedinthewoolliberal Oct 2012 #34
maybe you could sit her down Quantess Oct 2012 #35
You know the easiest way to get your message through, unfriend her... Historic NY Oct 2012 #40
I would get a smarter friend. undeterred Oct 2012 #41
Say this ... "If any Republican President got Osama Bin Ladin, you would be helping to JoePhilly Oct 2012 #42
I had (past tense) a friend who compared PBO to Hitler sellitman Oct 2012 #43
I'm 62 and underthematrix Oct 2012 #44
If she really hates Obama that much Mariana Oct 2012 #46
Did you tell her Dishwash D'snooza is an adulterer? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #49
Show her this article and post it on your FB page: beac Oct 2012 #50
Out source your friendship to India. vinny9698 Oct 2012 #51

Skittles

(153,212 posts)
1. and you are friends with this sad, deluded critter.....why?
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:05 PM
Oct 2012

I would kick her sorry ass to the curb; by the way, silence equals agreement

stopbush

(24,397 posts)
17. Agreed - silence signifies your agreement with her. The WORST thing you can do is
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:19 PM
Oct 2012

stay silent.

Go down fighting, even if you lose her friendship. Better to be honest about it when it might matter.

Skittles

(153,212 posts)
23. yup
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:29 PM
Oct 2012

it's OK to *ASK* for silence - meaning, cease all political talk - I had to do that with an aunt's emails - I could not take the birther bullshit

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
2. Why is that person a "friend?" Seriously. I just don't understand that.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:06 PM
Oct 2012

Friends are people who SHARE your values, who you enjoy spending time with, who you have things in common with. Sometimes I wonder about the "friends" people have. People outgrow friends. Period. You should unfriend her and unfriend her. Doesn't seem to be any question about that... friends should enhance your life, and I won't spend one minute around someone like that. It's not a "difference of opinion" it's someone who obviously has some serious issues.

uponit7771

(90,367 posts)
3. Agree with her that Obama killed Linconln and caused the great depression... hyperboe jokes ..
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:06 PM
Oct 2012

...put things in perspective

frostfern

(67 posts)
25. Communism is when evil gubbermint "spreads the wealth".
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:32 PM
Oct 2012

Taxes are a part of communism and are thus un-Murrikan and un-patriotic (except when they are levied on the poor). They were invented by commies to punish "successful" people because commies are envious and lust for power. Gubbermint handouts are also a part of communism (except when they go to giant corporations or the military-industrial complex, that's patriotic and very Murrikan).

Well, that's probably what you'll get if you ask a dittohead or search conservapedia.

AzSweet

(102 posts)
9. I had a run in with a friend today too...he posted that liberals....
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:10 PM
Oct 2012

...are making a big deal about Mitts money, to distract the fact that Obama is stealing. I called him on it, asked him what exactly Obama was stealing, and to back it up. He said Dems are "mean"...Spineless when we dont speak up, and mean when we do. No reasoning with these people. Blocked him from seeing my posts, and my seeing his. Will never understand these people.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
10. Well I did not know her political thoughts until recently.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:11 PM
Oct 2012

She lives in another state and politics never came up until this election cycle and she did not say anything until the last couple of weeks or so. So I agree I do not want a friend like this. She has been my friend for about 4 years. That is probably why I feel the way I do. I am surprised and astonished that she would feel this way. We had an entirely different reason for being friends. But I guess we aren't any longer.

She called him a murderer OMG!

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
12. I had one blow my mind just a few days ago with an anti-Obama rant.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:13 PM
Oct 2012

I was so stunned i didn't know WHAT to say to her. It was completely off the topic of the conversation we had been having. Just a random, insane rant about how Obama is a socialist, etc.

Fortunately there was a third person there who said "WHAT??!?!" and she got quiet. So then i said "Well, if we had socialism, we'd all have health care" and she walked away.

But I will forever think less of her. It was just so hateful and so inappropriate.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
13. Yes I agree. She was saying the things like that the last couple of weeks
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:15 PM
Oct 2012

but not the things I posted here. I just happened to go to another site that I occasionally go to and saw her rant..Yes I will not think the same about her.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
15. I guess that is what I am trying to say here that I am "stunned" that those you know
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:16 PM
Oct 2012

could think this way ...with such hate in them..pure hate.

jackbenimble

(251 posts)
36. I sympathize with you
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:58 PM
Oct 2012

I saw some garbage on a friend's husband's facebook page that just blew me away. This is a man whom I have known for decades and have been close friends with his wife just as long, a person I respected greatly who has always handled himself well. And now I am having trouble even believing he is intelligent after seeing the socialism, birther and muslim conspiracy crap on his facebook page. This election cycle combined with facebook sure is putting a strain on some friendships.

Oh yea, this guy works for the county government too in the parks department. Oh the irony... LOL

Cha

(297,774 posts)
16. Nothing like kind, courageous, intellegent, good sense of humor,
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:18 PM
Oct 2012

President Obama to bring out the brainwashed Idiots' hate.

I would consider it a favor. I'm not on fb but I can imagine how this would affect you. Hang in there, bkkyosemite, and thank you for posting the good stuff.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
20. Why do you call that asshole a friend. Dump her and find people that don't have their heads up
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:24 PM
Oct 2012

their asses.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
21. I'm with you. My sister has stopped talking to me
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:28 PM
Oct 2012

and instead is sending her snark to me 3rd party, via my youngest child. I intend to address this tomorrow with her. Not cool.

chowder66

(9,086 posts)
22. Ask her if she has seen any of the Pro-Obama films or if
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:29 PM
Oct 2012

she has ever read Obama's book. Or you could ask her if she believes Snow White is a true story.

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)
24. Tell her as bad as she thinks Obama is Robme is worse.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:32 PM
Oct 2012

Talk to her about Sensata. If Robme was honest about being tough with China, surely he could start by encouraging a company he started and still has major stock ownership in to not ship American Jobs off to China the same week as the 2nd debate.

Talk to her about his son's investment in voting machines and the guy who got arrested for throwing voter registrations in the trash. Ask her if God has ever supported a candidate that had to lie, cheat and steal an election to win?

Ask her exactly what Obama is supposed to have "lied" about and fact check it.

Remind her that this has been a rethug congress except for about 26 days of Obama's administration. MOST of what Obama is being blamed for he has no control over.

Tell her to follow the money and see how it's being spent. Koch brothers are pressuring their employees to vote Robme or else because they expect a return on their investment.

Show her these charts:

http://www.businessinsider.com/charts-that-should-get-obama-reelected-2012-10#-18












bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
38. I have stated much of what you said on my Facebook which she can see. I just did not know
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 09:20 PM
Oct 2012

that she was that hateful towards the President. I have many graphs. I made it clear that I would support Obama as I am a Obama Mama so I am trying to educate the low info voter on Facebook but this woman showed some things on facebook but I guess she did not have the nerve to say these things there so I did not know to what extent.

Thank you for some graphs I have not seen I will use them .

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
26. Could you ever count on the friendship of someone ruled by irrational hatred?
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:32 PM
Oct 2012

If you still believe in the friendship, you owe it to this person to point out their mental disease. Part of being a friend is telling that friend the truth about their flaws.

 

makokun

(57 posts)
27. The high school cliquishness is strong in this thread...
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:36 PM
Oct 2012

People aren't one dimensional. The replies saying dump a friend of 4 years over politics are bat shit crazy. This isn't the Civil War era. If you can't tolerate a person you value in other respects b/c of their politics the poor reflection is yours.

The hate needs to stop...

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
37. It's not "politics" the OP is repelled by...
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 09:18 PM
Oct 2012

--it's the promotion of extremist lies, distortions and Hate by her friend.

That is NOT a smart thing to "tolerate" if you don't have to (you would try to do that with family).

It's disheartening, but we've all lost friends. The OP is grieving because she knows that, in truth, the friendship is already lost.

niyad

(113,597 posts)
45. surely you are joking? this isn't about relinquishing a friendship over whether or not you both
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 10:10 PM
Oct 2012

like the same reality show. this is about a person who has apparently turned hateful, vicious, and completely ignorant. NO reason to keep that person as a friend, and it isn't hatred, it is self-defense.

Warpy

(111,367 posts)
28. Saying nothing is the WORST thing you can do.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:39 PM
Oct 2012

Say you're sorry she's been such a sucker for Republican propaganda. Say you can't deal with so much bullshit on your screen. Say goodbye until after the election.

But you have to say something!

lolly

(3,248 posts)
32. I don't know that I'm so sure about that
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:48 PM
Oct 2012

In the first place, a lot of FB friends aren't friends so much as acquaintances, handy to stay in touch with for various reasons.

Second, anyone who feels the way she does will not be convinced to change her mind through any evidence. She'll just double down on the crazy.

I do a couple things. I may hide all their posts for a while, just to keep my blood pressure down.

Sometimes, if the person has something else in common with me, I make it a point to make friendly, innocuous comments on pictures of their kids or whatever--or "like" their non-political posts. I do this especially if this is a person who lives in a bubble, and may not have any access to or contact with people who don't think like they do. I figure there's at least a chance she'll see my posts, and then be faced with the jarring revelation that I, an Obama supporter, actually like cute pictures of puppies just like she does. Maybe these scary Obama supportin' people aren't quite the monsters she thought they were...

Warpy

(111,367 posts)
33. Do you honestly want anyone out there thinking you agree with that shit?
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:53 PM
Oct 2012

Because if you stay silent they all will.

lolly

(3,248 posts)
48. It would be rather difficult for them to get that impression on FB
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 11:29 PM
Oct 2012

With the posts that I put on my own wall.

But I just don't respond to inflammatory material they put up on their newsfeed. Like I said, it wouldn't change their minds.

Dealing with the disconnect of seeing someone they have something in common with who supports liberal causes is more likely to get a few brain cells working.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
39. That is what I have been doing. Just putting a like thumbs up to something she posts other than
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 09:26 PM
Oct 2012

politics and I do hide her Muslim stuff. But when I read what she said about him being a murderer traitor that really jolted me. I now do look at her differently. And I have been putting a lot of the things on my Facebook I see from here. She I think only reads what she wants and ignores things like the Romney family owning vote machines etc. that would tell her she is wrong about Romney but she is blinded by the hate and I am stunned by her verbage. Thank you for your thoughts.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
29. You really don't have to talk politics with your friends.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:44 PM
Oct 2012

If she's willing to agree to disagree then you don't have a problem. If she's not than you have a problem, but the problem is disrespecting your boundaries, not her dumb opinions.

We all have friends who believe stupid things, if we demanded ideological purity we'd be pretty lonely.

As far as Facebook, a lot of people I know have a friend group for their people they'd rather leave out of political posts. I've never had to do that, but if you want your friend to keep her opinions to herself you should keep yours to yourself as well, and a group up for your political posts that does not include her. At least, if you want to preserve the friendship.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
30. I'd say this
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:45 PM
Oct 2012

"If you don't like the way he is running the country, then you should leave."

Try a little Bush-era post 9/11 style rhetoric on her.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
47. I did that with my mother
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 11:21 PM
Oct 2012

when she started going on about "death panels" and how all the old people were just going to be killed off with Obamacare. I asked her, "Why the hell are you still here then? You better get away while you still can! You want me to help you pack?" She stopped giving me that particular line after that.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,592 posts)
34. Sometimes
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:55 PM
Oct 2012

it takes something like this election for our true selves to be revealed and she has shown you who she is. Maybe you can't be friends any longer..............

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
35. maybe you could sit her down
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:58 PM
Oct 2012

then kneel in front of her and wring your hands worrriedly and nervously.

Show her with your hand wringing, that you are concerned she is falling for the Romney trap.

Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
40. You know the easiest way to get your message through, unfriend her...
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 09:36 PM
Oct 2012

when she asks tell her you didn't want her garbage to be associated with you page.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
42. Say this ... "If any Republican President got Osama Bin Ladin, you would be helping to
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 09:48 PM
Oct 2012

carve their face on Mt. Rushmore."

"If any Republican stopped the financial collapse preventing a 2nd Great Depression, you would be helping to carve their face on Mt. Rushmore.

"If any Republican saved the US auto industry, you would be helping to carve "their face on Mt. Rushmore."

"If any Republican took the DOW from 6500 to 13,000 ... you would be helping to carve "their face on Mt. Rushmore."

Then add ... here is an idea ... if you voted for Bush twice, you can repay your debt to America by sitting out two elections.

sellitman

(11,607 posts)
43. I had (past tense) a friend who compared PBO to Hitler
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 09:50 PM
Oct 2012

He was (past tense) a very, dear friend. I haven't talked to him in 2 plus years.

Never will again.


Its a good practice. Nothing good will ever come of a friendship with a cretin so low in intelligence as someone who compares a GREAT President with humanities worst Monster.

Why bother?

Move on.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
44. I'm 62 and
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 10:05 PM
Oct 2012

I was 13 when President Kennedy was assasinated. I remember the news coverage of southern whites spewing the most awful words you could imagine at blacks trying to eliminate separate but equal Jim Crow laws. As the movement continued, some whites began to change their hearts and minds, while others did not. You cannot change her. The most important thing is to not let her change you.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
46. If she really hates Obama that much
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 11:12 PM
Oct 2012

she probably also hates everyone who voted/will vote for him. How could she have any respect for someone who supports a communist, deceitful, lying, murdering, traitor who is destroying our nation?

Maybe you should ask her outright exactly what she thinks of you. That might resolve the problem right there.

beac

(9,992 posts)
50. Show her this article and post it on your FB page:
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 11:53 PM
Oct 2012
http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2012/10/10/want-a-better-economy-history-says-vote-democrat/

Highlights include:

Corporate profits have risen under Obama more than any other president
The stock market has soared 14.72%/year under Obama, second only to Clinton — which should be a big deal since 2/3 of people (not just the upper class) have a 401K or similar investment vehicle dependent upon corporate profits and stock market performance”


and LOTS of other info on how Democrats are always better for the economy than Republicans.



Sounds like she's a FOX News viewer, so she may already be too brain dead to save, but it's worth a try.

vinny9698

(1,016 posts)
51. Out source your friendship to India.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 12:44 AM
Oct 2012

(267) 436-5128 this is the same number that Romney is going to give to the "47%" who vote for him.
It is a out source your friend to India The 47 voters will then be courted every 4 years.

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