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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI have a friend who is saying the most hateful things
She has watched all the anti Obama movies and believes them.
She has used words to describe Obama as "communist, deceitful, lying, murdering, traitor" who is destroying our nation.
I don't know how to handle it. Should I just say nothing. I have said plenty in general on my Facebook who she is a friend on there also (and maybe it will kill our friendship) but not to her personally.
It is very sad that the hate that has brainwashed her is so rampant with many. I feel pretty down about the extreme hate.
Skittles
(153,212 posts)I would kick her sorry ass to the curb; by the way, silence equals agreement
Darth_Kitten
(14,192 posts)Kick em to the curb with knowledge.
stopbush
(24,397 posts)stay silent.
Go down fighting, even if you lose her friendship. Better to be honest about it when it might matter.
it's OK to *ASK* for silence - meaning, cease all political talk - I had to do that with an aunt's emails - I could not take the birther bullshit
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)Friends are people who SHARE your values, who you enjoy spending time with, who you have things in common with. Sometimes I wonder about the "friends" people have. People outgrow friends. Period. You should unfriend her and unfriend her. Doesn't seem to be any question about that... friends should enhance your life, and I won't spend one minute around someone like that. It's not a "difference of opinion" it's someone who obviously has some serious issues.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)...put things in perspective
Darth_Kitten
(14,192 posts)Shuts them up every time.
frostfern
(67 posts)Taxes are a part of communism and are thus un-Murrikan and un-patriotic (except when they are levied on the poor). They were invented by commies to punish "successful" people because commies are envious and lust for power. Gubbermint handouts are also a part of communism (except when they go to giant corporations or the military-industrial complex, that's patriotic and very Murrikan).
Well, that's probably what you'll get if you ask a dittohead or search conservapedia.
H2O Man
(73,627 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,628 posts)Ditch this person! Life is too short to associate with people like her!
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)unfriended/blocked.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)AzSweet
(102 posts)...are making a big deal about Mitts money, to distract the fact that Obama is stealing. I called him on it, asked him what exactly Obama was stealing, and to back it up. He said Dems are "mean"...Spineless when we dont speak up, and mean when we do. No reasoning with these people. Blocked him from seeing my posts, and my seeing his. Will never understand these people.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)She lives in another state and politics never came up until this election cycle and she did not say anything until the last couple of weeks or so. So I agree I do not want a friend like this. She has been my friend for about 4 years. That is probably why I feel the way I do. I am surprised and astonished that she would feel this way. We had an entirely different reason for being friends. But I guess we aren't any longer.
She called him a murderer OMG!
niyad
(113,597 posts)proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)I was so stunned i didn't know WHAT to say to her. It was completely off the topic of the conversation we had been having. Just a random, insane rant about how Obama is a socialist, etc.
Fortunately there was a third person there who said "WHAT??!?!" and she got quiet. So then i said "Well, if we had socialism, we'd all have health care" and she walked away.
But I will forever think less of her. It was just so hateful and so inappropriate.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)but not the things I posted here. I just happened to go to another site that I occasionally go to and saw her rant..Yes I will not think the same about her.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)could think this way ...with such hate in them..pure hate.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)I knew my friend was a republican but never saw her be so hateful.
jackbenimble
(251 posts)I saw some garbage on a friend's husband's facebook page that just blew me away. This is a man whom I have known for decades and have been close friends with his wife just as long, a person I respected greatly who has always handled himself well. And now I am having trouble even believing he is intelligent after seeing the socialism, birther and muslim conspiracy crap on his facebook page. This election cycle combined with facebook sure is putting a strain on some friendships.
Oh yea, this guy works for the county government too in the parks department. Oh the irony... LOL
Cha
(297,774 posts)President Obama to bring out the brainwashed Idiots' hate.
I would consider it a favor. I'm not on fb but I can imagine how this would affect you. Hang in there, bkkyosemite, and thank you for posting the good stuff.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)MineralMan
(146,336 posts)Shed that one.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)their asses.
reflection
(6,286 posts)and instead is sending her snark to me 3rd party, via my youngest child. I intend to address this tomorrow with her. Not cool.
chowder66
(9,086 posts)she has ever read Obama's book. Or you could ask her if she believes Snow White is a true story.
Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)Talk to her about Sensata. If Robme was honest about being tough with China, surely he could start by encouraging a company he started and still has major stock ownership in to not ship American Jobs off to China the same week as the 2nd debate.
Talk to her about his son's investment in voting machines and the guy who got arrested for throwing voter registrations in the trash. Ask her if God has ever supported a candidate that had to lie, cheat and steal an election to win?
Ask her exactly what Obama is supposed to have "lied" about and fact check it.
Remind her that this has been a rethug congress except for about 26 days of Obama's administration. MOST of what Obama is being blamed for he has no control over.
Tell her to follow the money and see how it's being spent. Koch brothers are pressuring their employees to vote Robme or else because they expect a return on their investment.
Show her these charts:
http://www.businessinsider.com/charts-that-should-get-obama-reelected-2012-10#-18
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)that she was that hateful towards the President. I have many graphs. I made it clear that I would support Obama as I am a Obama Mama so I am trying to educate the low info voter on Facebook but this woman showed some things on facebook but I guess she did not have the nerve to say these things there so I did not know to what extent.
Thank you for some graphs I have not seen I will use them .
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)If you still believe in the friendship, you owe it to this person to point out their mental disease. Part of being a friend is telling that friend the truth about their flaws.
makokun
(57 posts)People aren't one dimensional. The replies saying dump a friend of 4 years over politics are bat shit crazy. This isn't the Civil War era. If you can't tolerate a person you value in other respects b/c of their politics the poor reflection is yours.
The hate needs to stop...
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)--it's the promotion of extremist lies, distortions and Hate by her friend.
That is NOT a smart thing to "tolerate" if you don't have to (you would try to do that with family).
It's disheartening, but we've all lost friends. The OP is grieving because she knows that, in truth, the friendship is already lost.
niyad
(113,597 posts)like the same reality show. this is about a person who has apparently turned hateful, vicious, and completely ignorant. NO reason to keep that person as a friend, and it isn't hatred, it is self-defense.
Warpy
(111,367 posts)Say you're sorry she's been such a sucker for Republican propaganda. Say you can't deal with so much bullshit on your screen. Say goodbye until after the election.
But you have to say something!
lolly
(3,248 posts)In the first place, a lot of FB friends aren't friends so much as acquaintances, handy to stay in touch with for various reasons.
Second, anyone who feels the way she does will not be convinced to change her mind through any evidence. She'll just double down on the crazy.
I do a couple things. I may hide all their posts for a while, just to keep my blood pressure down.
Sometimes, if the person has something else in common with me, I make it a point to make friendly, innocuous comments on pictures of their kids or whatever--or "like" their non-political posts. I do this especially if this is a person who lives in a bubble, and may not have any access to or contact with people who don't think like they do. I figure there's at least a chance she'll see my posts, and then be faced with the jarring revelation that I, an Obama supporter, actually like cute pictures of puppies just like she does. Maybe these scary Obama supportin' people aren't quite the monsters she thought they were...
Warpy
(111,367 posts)Because if you stay silent they all will.
lolly
(3,248 posts)With the posts that I put on my own wall.
But I just don't respond to inflammatory material they put up on their newsfeed. Like I said, it wouldn't change their minds.
Dealing with the disconnect of seeing someone they have something in common with who supports liberal causes is more likely to get a few brain cells working.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)politics and I do hide her Muslim stuff. But when I read what she said about him being a murderer traitor that really jolted me. I now do look at her differently. And I have been putting a lot of the things on my Facebook I see from here. She I think only reads what she wants and ignores things like the Romney family owning vote machines etc. that would tell her she is wrong about Romney but she is blinded by the hate and I am stunned by her verbage. Thank you for your thoughts.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)If she's willing to agree to disagree then you don't have a problem. If she's not than you have a problem, but the problem is disrespecting your boundaries, not her dumb opinions.
We all have friends who believe stupid things, if we demanded ideological purity we'd be pretty lonely.
As far as Facebook, a lot of people I know have a friend group for their people they'd rather leave out of political posts. I've never had to do that, but if you want your friend to keep her opinions to herself you should keep yours to yourself as well, and a group up for your political posts that does not include her. At least, if you want to preserve the friendship.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)"If you don't like the way he is running the country, then you should leave."
Try a little Bush-era post 9/11 style rhetoric on her.
Mariana
(14,861 posts)when she started going on about "death panels" and how all the old people were just going to be killed off with Obamacare. I asked her, "Why the hell are you still here then? You better get away while you still can! You want me to help you pack?" She stopped giving me that particular line after that.
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(15,592 posts)it takes something like this election for our true selves to be revealed and she has shown you who she is. Maybe you can't be friends any longer..............
Quantess
(27,630 posts)then kneel in front of her and wring your hands worrriedly and nervously.
Show her with your hand wringing, that you are concerned she is falling for the Romney trap.
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)when she asks tell her you didn't want her garbage to be associated with you page.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)But hey, thats just me.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)carve their face on Mt. Rushmore."
"If any Republican stopped the financial collapse preventing a 2nd Great Depression, you would be helping to carve their face on Mt. Rushmore.
"If any Republican saved the US auto industry, you would be helping to carve "their face on Mt. Rushmore."
"If any Republican took the DOW from 6500 to 13,000 ... you would be helping to carve "their face on Mt. Rushmore."
Then add ... here is an idea ... if you voted for Bush twice, you can repay your debt to America by sitting out two elections.
sellitman
(11,607 posts)He was (past tense) a very, dear friend. I haven't talked to him in 2 plus years.
Never will again.
Its a good practice. Nothing good will ever come of a friendship with a cretin so low in intelligence as someone who compares a GREAT President with humanities worst Monster.
Why bother?
Move on.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)I was 13 when President Kennedy was assasinated. I remember the news coverage of southern whites spewing the most awful words you could imagine at blacks trying to eliminate separate but equal Jim Crow laws. As the movement continued, some whites began to change their hearts and minds, while others did not. You cannot change her. The most important thing is to not let her change you.
Mariana
(14,861 posts)she probably also hates everyone who voted/will vote for him. How could she have any respect for someone who supports a communist, deceitful, lying, murdering, traitor who is destroying our nation?
Maybe you should ask her outright exactly what she thinks of you. That might resolve the problem right there.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)beac
(9,992 posts)Highlights include:
The stock market has soared 14.72%/year under Obama, second only to Clinton which should be a big deal since 2/3 of people (not just the upper class) have a 401K or similar investment vehicle dependent upon corporate profits and stock market performance
and LOTS of other info on how Democrats are always better for the economy than Republicans.
Sounds like she's a FOX News viewer, so she may already be too brain dead to save, but it's worth a try.
vinny9698
(1,016 posts)(267) 436-5128 this is the same number that Romney is going to give to the "47%" who vote for him.
It is a out source your friend to India The 47 voters will then be courted every 4 years.