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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 09:06 PM Oct 2012

Now that Cuba is giving it's people the freedom to travel, should we end the trade embargo?


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Now that Cuba is giving it's people the freedom to travel, should we end the trade embargo? (Original Post) Ken Burch Oct 2012 OP
Should have years and years ago n/t doc03 Oct 2012 #1
We should have ended it years ago. eom City Lights Oct 2012 #2
Long overdue. Ed Suspicious Oct 2012 #3
But it's bound to work any time now. tclambert Oct 2012 #4
Well said! n/t freethought Oct 2012 #7
We've been fighting the drug war longer than that Fumesucker Oct 2012 #8
Yes but there is no linkage. Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #5
Absolutely! freethought Oct 2012 #6
It's simple actually Fumesucker Oct 2012 #10
It should have been lifted a long time ago! glowing Oct 2012 #9
And maybe I could finally get a coke with real sugar instead of this High Fructose Corn Syrup shit. hughee99 Oct 2012 #14
Actually, you can get that now. Mexican Coca-Cola(which is still made with sugar)is available Ken Burch Oct 2012 #16
NEVER!!! ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #11
It should have been ended a long time ago. glacierbay Oct 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author flamingdem Oct 2012 #13
It's going to happen. joshcryer Oct 2012 #15

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
4. But it's bound to work any time now.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 09:18 PM
Oct 2012

It's only been 52 years. C'mon, maybe 53 is the charm. Then we can finally get Batista back into power.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
8. We've been fighting the drug war longer than that
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 09:25 PM
Oct 2012

And it was reiterated just in the last day or so that as far as the Democratic administration is concerned we are still at battle stations after 75 years, next to that 52 years is hardly trying.

So often it seems that the more bipartisan something is, the stupider it is.

freethought

(2,457 posts)
6. Absolutely!
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 09:21 PM
Oct 2012

I don't even know why this is even an issue, other than the fact that a tiny number of aging Cuban immigrants can put U.S. foreign policy in a full-Nelson. I have often said that holding the embargo up for this long makes the U.S. look childish and stupid. We've given aid and trade to leaders worse than Castro.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
10. It's simple actually
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 09:32 PM
Oct 2012

The US is afraid that if the embargo is lifted the Cuban people will flourish under "communism", sets a bad example for their own prole...err...citizens.



 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
9. It should have been lifted a long time ago!
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 09:31 PM
Oct 2012

The USSR is all over. And our biggest offshoring country we trade freely with is China (a really BIG country that is "communistic&quot . So, yes, the embargo should be lifted. All Americans should be able to travel and trade with Cuba... And the faster we open them up to "commercialization" and American tourists, the faster they become a more democratic ruled nation.

The pissing contest should be over with, in my opinion. Shoot, most people 40 and younger don't really understand why we can't go on a trip that is literally a cute little day trip out of Miami and dance to fun music and drink Mojitos.

And really, the Cuban's could really use some newer car models and we could sell the American items easily enough; instead of the Chinese setting up oil trades for new refrigerators and electronic equipment.

I honestly don't think there is any young person who understands the Cuban issue unless they are Cuban and have family in Cuba. I barely get the whole issue. It was back in JFK times, Cuban missile fears, and Castro taking over all "corporate" enterprises for "state". And I know I should know more about the history, but I don't and I don't understand how a tiny island near FL is a bigger threat than China and its billion plus population and its rise in becoming the new Imperial Super Power of the world and in a country that controls its people with an iron fist (non-democratically).

To most people who are younger, it doesn't really make any logical sense. And it would be one cool ass country that would be on my "must visit" lists if tourism opened up for all Americans and not just very wealthy side-stepping National laws, journalists, Cuban-Americans, and politicians on "fact finding missions". It's a forbidden fruit with history and culture and many, many unique site seeing intrigues. To see where the Rat Pack played and Marylin Monroe vacationed. It would just be a neat-o experience to have.

And, of course, some tourist cash infusion from Americans would help the country improve in certain qualities of life. So, I would love to see the ban lifted and to be allowed the opportunity to visit legally.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
14. And maybe I could finally get a coke with real sugar instead of this High Fructose Corn Syrup shit.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 11:13 PM
Oct 2012

n/t

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
16. Actually, you can get that now. Mexican Coca-Cola(which is still made with sugar)is available
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 11:28 PM
Oct 2012

in most large U.S. cities(we even get it here in Southeast Alaska).

Mexican Pepsi is available too.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
11. NEVER!!!
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 10:55 PM
Oct 2012

It would mean the re entry into the US market Cuban cigars. Think of the children and do nothing that would encourage any more smoking or trafficking in tobacco products.















if it isn't crystal clear

 

glacierbay

(2,477 posts)
12. It should have been ended a long time ago.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 10:58 PM
Oct 2012

All it did was earn us the disdain of the Cuban People. It needs to end now.

Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

joshcryer

(62,277 posts)
15. It's going to happen.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 11:27 PM
Oct 2012

However, given that 1000+ more dissidents have been arrested in 2012 as opposed to 2011, I don't see the US doing it. We're waiting for the regime to crumble and the privatization and travel changes are indicators that it is changing.

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