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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 04:31 PM Oct 2012

Amazon closes woman's account and wipes her Kindle, refuses to say why...

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'A couple of days a go, my friend Linn sent me an e-mail, being very frustrated: Amazon just closed her account and wiped her Kindle. Without notice. Without explanation. This is DRM at it’s worst.'

http://www.bekkelund.net/2012/10/22/outlawed-by-amazon-drm

This is a personal friend of several high-visibility tech bloggers. It's not the first time Amazon has done this.
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Amazon closes woman's account and wipes her Kindle, refuses to say why... (Original Post) onehandle Oct 2012 OP
so this is a second hand account from a random person on teh intertubes? snooper2 Oct 2012 #1
wow. That answers my question about whether or not to buy a Kindle. - n/t Jim__ Oct 2012 #2
It goes deeper than that. This is the danger of cloud services in general. Zalatix Oct 2012 #4
I have 2300 books resident on my e-reader. No cloud necessary. dmallind Oct 2012 #6
You're absolutely right defacto7 Oct 2012 #13
Another example of Cloud problems, today: dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #16
Is there a legitimate source to confirm these allegations. RomneyLies Oct 2012 #3
This is scary if true gollygee Oct 2012 #5
No not really dmallind Oct 2012 #7
Most of my books have DRM gollygee Oct 2012 #8
All my e-books have been moved to a thumb drive. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #14
I have a Nook tablet--which I love, since it is also a 7" tablet computer,not just an e-reader. tblue37 Oct 2012 #22
I like them both the same gollygee Oct 2012 #23
Everything on my Kindle came free from gutenberg.org. MineralMan Oct 2012 #9
Gizmodo is looking into if this is true or not. Lone_Star_Dem Oct 2012 #10
Every time I buy an e-book, I crack the DRM, back it up, and side-load it on my Nook. backscatter712 Oct 2012 #11
Yup. Me too. Then back it up to Dropbox, all achieved with... MANative Oct 2012 #12
It can also be achieved by a hacker. Zalatix Oct 2012 #17
How does one "crack the DRM"? WillowTree Oct 2012 #25
The easiest way is to start by installing the PC e-book software Calibre. backscatter712 Oct 2012 #26
Maybe this is an attempt to discredit Amazon, who knows. nt Hutzpa Oct 2012 #15
In my experience Amazon offers the best customer service of any company I have ever dealt with. Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #18
I recently jumped into e-books and I love it quinnox Oct 2012 #19
What is "DRM"? WinkyDink Oct 2012 #20
it is a copy protection thing quinnox Oct 2012 #21
Digital Restricted Media Viking12 Oct 2012 #24

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
13. You're absolutely right
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 05:04 PM
Oct 2012

People better listen. The cloud is not your friend. This is a broad brush but it is true you must be very careful what you use it for and what you have invested in it. Keeping your own info is still the best way to preserve your personal digital property. Don't exclusively trust a cloud.

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
3. Is there a legitimate source to confirm these allegations.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 04:37 PM
Oct 2012

A friend of A friend who blogs is not a legitimate source for allegations like these.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
5. This is scary if true
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 04:39 PM
Oct 2012

I've never heard of this happening, but the potential is there. I love ebooks and wouldn't want to go back to paper books, but the one thing I don't like is that you don't own the book in the same way you own a physical book. If the company you bought it from wants to, they have the power to make it so you can't read it anymore.

But I do love e-readers. I have both a Nook and a Kindle. I can't imagine ever giving them up.

dmallind

(10,437 posts)
7. No not really
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 04:44 PM
Oct 2012

I transfer all my books on my book to an SD card. And I have them backed up on my pc. Far MORE backup than a paper copy.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
8. Most of my books have DRM
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 04:47 PM
Oct 2012

and I'm not techie enough to remove it, and I'm not sure I'm comfortable with doing that. Though stories like this make me wonder.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
14. All my e-books have been moved to a thumb drive.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 05:17 PM
Oct 2012

I put 8-10 books at a time on the Nook.

You can open your reader, and drag and drop the books to any folder, or to Calibre or where ever you want them.
Backing up is a smart thing to do.
eggs and baskets and all that, don'tcha know>

tblue37

(65,490 posts)
22. I have a Nook tablet--which I love, since it is also a 7" tablet computer,not just an e-reader.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 08:08 PM
Oct 2012

But the light display does wear on the eyes after a while.

I've been thinking of getting a cheapo Kindle as well, so I can e-read even when my eyes are tired from the Nook. Do you have the cheap Kindle, or one of the higher end ones? Do you like the Nook or the Kindle better?

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
23. I like them both the same
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 08:11 PM
Oct 2012

i don't have a preference.

But if you search for "nook simple touch" on sears.com today, you'll see there's a huge sale. If you stay with the same brand, you'll be able to use the same books on both.

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
9. Everything on my Kindle came free from gutenberg.org.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 04:48 PM
Oct 2012

The wireless has never even been on. Amazon can do nothing to my Kindle. When I bought it, I swore never to buy anything for it on Amazon. So far, so good.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
10. Gizmodo is looking into if this is true or not.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 04:48 PM
Oct 2012

So far, there's only the blog entry and an unnamed woman's account of the matter.

Hopefully Amazon will get back to them shortly and we'll see what's what.

http://gizmodo.com/5953829/amazon-deletes-users-account-and-kindle-data-without-explanation

MANative

(4,112 posts)
12. Yup. Me too. Then back it up to Dropbox, all achieved with...
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 04:59 PM
Oct 2012

Calibre, the best free software available anywhere!

I had heard similar stories to the OP on a forum dedicated to ereaders (mobileread.com - A great resource, btw). Usually a TOS issue, often related to suspected reselling.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
17. It can also be achieved by a hacker.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 05:24 PM
Oct 2012

Another problem with having your hardware dependent upon connectivity is that you can be shut down and deleted without the company even approving such action.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
26. The easiest way is to start by installing the PC e-book software Calibre.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 08:53 PM
Oct 2012

Next, follow the instructions in the below link to download and install a set of DRM removal plugins for Calibre and use them on your ebooks.

http://apprenticealf.wordpress.com/2011/01/13/ebooks-formats-drm-and-you-%E2%80%94-a-guide-for-the-perplexed/

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
18. In my experience Amazon offers the best customer service of any company I have ever dealt with.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 05:54 PM
Oct 2012

So I'm not sure what's happening here.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
19. I recently jumped into e-books and I love it
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 05:58 PM
Oct 2012

Anyone who is curious and loves reading I would recommend to get into e-books. At first I was hesitant about it, being a traditional reader of solid physical books and was dubious on the idea. But I'm totally sold now. The cloud thing is very convenient, but if you are concerned about it you don't even have to use the cloud to store your e-books. That is what is cool about e-books, they take up a minuscule amount of computer space so you can download a ton of them on your e-reader with no problems. Its almost like carrying an entire library in your pocket. It is awesome!

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
21. it is a copy protection thing
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 06:09 PM
Oct 2012

DRM is a way for the book publishers to protect the material from people giving electronic copies of the books to friends. By the way, it is easily bypassed to take off the DRM protection from your e-books, its a bit technical, but anyone who can follow step by step directions can find ways to do it on the internet.

Viking12

(6,012 posts)
24. Digital Restricted Media
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 08:15 PM
Oct 2012

For example, iTunes restricting the use of music to 5 devices (of course, that's an easy one to bypass).

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