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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 04:44 PM Oct 2012

Gloria Allred will be in a Boston area courtroom Wednesday to unseal the sworn testimony


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/gloria-allred-mitt-romney-october-surprise-gag-order

Famed civil rights attorney Gloria Allred will be in a Boston area courtroom Wednesday in an attempt to unseal the sworn testimony given by Republican Presidential hopeful Mitt Romney, in a prior court case, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.

"The Boston Globe is headed to court tomorrow morning for an emergency hearing in an attempt to obtain a court order to unseal the sworn testimony given by Mitt Romney in a prior court case and to lift a gag order so that the parties can speak about Romney. Gloria Allred will be in court representing one of the parties in the case," a source close to the situation tells RadarOnline.com.

The emergency hearing will take place at the Norfolk Probate & Family Court in Canton, Massachusetts, and Justice Jennifer Ulwick will oversee the proceedings which will begin at 9 a.m. EST.
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Gloria Allred will be in a Boston area courtroom Wednesday to unseal the sworn testimony (Original Post) HipChick Oct 2012 OP
Think the whole Trump-cry-for-attention was planned to coincide with this event? FSogol Oct 2012 #1
You know that was in the back of my head when the whole Trump thing broke Liberalynn Oct 2012 #19
Yup, the MSN will pull a "both parties do it" and ignore the Romney allegations. FSogol Oct 2012 #25
It's true that he didn't mention it until she had this bombshell about to come out. cbdo2007 Oct 2012 #22
Don't know why she gave everyone a heads up, why didn't she just wait until crunch60 Oct 2012 #120
she didn't riverwalker Oct 2012 #136
ok, tx.. know Gloria is smart, wonder where Drudge got it. crunch60 Oct 2012 #150
Yep. I do now that you mention it, FSogol. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #47
I believe so, yes. TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #87
Absolutely! Plucketeer Oct 2012 #101
Yup. That and his usual dog and pony show to flog his Celebrity Apprentice show Texin Oct 2012 #102
Interesting ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #2
MTE MissNostalgia Oct 2012 #117
Guess it's a good time oswaldactedalone Oct 2012 #3
Obama already said he did coke. Why would it be an issue? n/t TexasBushwhacker Oct 2012 #6
Bush did, too! n/t Tree-Hugger Oct 2012 #34
It makes the Administration's assualt on MMJ look rather hypocritical. Llewlladdwr Oct 2012 #39
No; laws can't be based on personal pasts. (I think MJ, not just MMJ, should be legal.) WinkyDink Oct 2012 #46
Hmmmm, Donald Trump says he's going to tweet something Wednesday too n/t TexasBushwhacker Oct 2012 #4
Trump said he would live tweet the debate - how did that work out? jsmirman Oct 2012 #84
Is this why Mrs. Romney looked upset last night? Just speculating...n/t monmouth Oct 2012 #5
my thoughts as well. crazylikafox Oct 2012 #8
At the end of last night, as Mr. Mitt-Ann was shaking hands, she grabbed him from behind and hung on sad sally Oct 2012 #33
He almost fell off the stage. FSogol Oct 2012 #96
I don't think we need this- and it could backfire Beaverhausen Oct 2012 #7
It's Romney's own testimony. LisaL Oct 2012 #9
It could still backfire-we don't know what its about. Beaverhausen Oct 2012 #16
Read closer.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #24
I'm with you on this one. (nt) enough Oct 2012 #17
You could be right about this. chelsea0011 Oct 2012 #20
Maybe you don't femrap Oct 2012 #27
"Kinder, Kuche, Kirche." WinkyDink Oct 2012 #32
Is this femrap Oct 2012 #48
Children, kitchen, church AspenRose Oct 2012 #53
Well femrap Oct 2012 #124
German slogan during and prior to Third Reich Hekate Oct 2012 #123
Well....maybe that femrap Oct 2012 #126
I respect her very much obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #59
Gloria Allred is HIGHLY respected "these days." Maybe not in Male-Land. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #30
yup obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #61
Uh- I'm female Beaverhausen Oct 2012 #68
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #152
How often has GA gotten involved in something that backfired? Never? Almost never? nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #76
I swear some people must still look under their beds for monsters around here jsmirman Oct 2012 #88
Allred is both respected AND feared. eom liberalmuse Oct 2012 #129
I don't care for Allred's style of grandstanding The Second Stone Oct 2012 #141
This message was self-deleted by its author MountainMazza Oct 2012 #10
The OP is about ROMNEY. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #35
Wrong thread, MM....and I strongly suspect, the wrong board, too. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #73
I'm looking forward to Mitt's Tell-All Autobiography flamingdem Oct 2012 #11
In what lifetime? WinkyDink Oct 2012 #37
Arnold's did poorly, only sold 16,000 copies, including signed in person! n/t flamingdem Oct 2012 #50
We know the "good stuff," so who wants to read about his child-hood?! WinkyDink Oct 2012 #94
Family court? leftynyc Oct 2012 #12
Family court implies children involved? Divorce? n/t flamingdem Oct 2012 #15
Child support to femrap Oct 2012 #29
+1 ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #139
Children from one of his other wives?... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #45
OOOOOOOOH, femrap Oct 2012 #51
That's my vote-- marions ghost Oct 2012 #57
Does Romney have an "anchor baby?" demwing Oct 2012 #70
The thought did cross my mind.... Tikki Oct 2012 #74
Yikes marions ghost Oct 2012 #97
Wouldn't that be something? Liberalynn Oct 2012 #108
maybe they didn't have all boys 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #93
That was my first thought. glinda Oct 2012 #106
Probate court? RandySF Oct 2012 #13
Custody matters? Maybe Mittens has another kid running around. Avalux Oct 2012 #44
Who besides Ann would *censored* him? RandySF Oct 2012 #49
He's super rich. His 'friends' and 'supporters' don't even like him. Avalux Oct 2012 #54
To paraphrase the great Oscar Wilde, hifiguy Oct 2012 #91
I'm hard-core, but even I can see that Romney is handsome. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #95
In his youth. liberalmuse Oct 2012 #131
It's 'Probate and Family Court' Texin Oct 2012 #112
Oh this is outsideworld Oct 2012 #14
Family court? Love child? Oh wouldn't that just be special. cags Oct 2012 #18
A secret sister wife? Champion Jack Oct 2012 #31
A spirit wife with a bit more flesh than is convenient for Willard on THIS planet. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author cags Oct 2012 #67
My favorite speculation yet! cags Oct 2012 #69
What is this about? kentuck Oct 2012 #21
This story has been around for a femrap Oct 2012 #38
400 vetos were not overturned so stop saying that! KamaAina Oct 2012 #99
My friend's femrap Oct 2012 #125
If anyone knew, the OP would be different in content. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #40
I would certainly like to know about the underlying case. Shrike47 Oct 2012 #23
This is going to be big, Mitt the family man is going down in flames. DrewFlorida Oct 2012 #26
Will not be unsealed before November 6. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #28
Doesn't matter SoCalNative Oct 2012 #36
Then the gag order will not be lifted (there are POWERFUL MEN behind Romney). I'd like to be wrong. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #43
Agree, but just the thought of Romney testifying in family court with a gag order will generate wild cags Oct 2012 #64
For those suggesting caution: What's this "we should..."? WE are not Obama, Allred, or the courts. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #41
+1 Liberalynn Oct 2012 #111
Did he pull a Schwarzenegger? krawhitham Oct 2012 #52
Jennifer Rivera-Ulwick krawhitham Oct 2012 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #62
That is not an unattractive woman jsmirman Oct 2012 #90
I am curious as to why she thinks that the Judge will unseal this testimony and lift the gag order? Lex Oct 2012 #56
was wondering that, too obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #66
Maybe she doesn't. But she knows the REFUSAL will get publicity. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #78
Looks like we have another Arnold Schwarzenegger on our hands Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #58
Possibly Oilwellian Oct 2012 #86
Smells like Fitzmas. RagAss Oct 2012 #60
Any lawyers here? Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #63
slim and if it was granted, Mitt can appeal which would keep gag order and testimony sealed Hamlette Oct 2012 #140
An abortion gone wrong..and Romney has a daughter???? ROFL n/t onecent Oct 2012 #65
The White House should ask her to stand down. win_in_06 Oct 2012 #71
I think not krawhitham Oct 2012 #75
Bwahahahahaha! Yeah, okay. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #79
I wonder if she has shared the information with the White House.. flamingdem Oct 2012 #80
I read that she recently met privately with Obama Texin Oct 2012 #103
Where did you read this, can you porvide a link? rainlillie Oct 2012 #127
If it is a child that he had outside of marriage and the child is underage rainlillie Oct 2012 #130
Where? 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #137
Here's all I could find -- nothing clandestine at all gateley Oct 2012 #143
Where did you read this? redwitch Oct 2012 #142
I hope not. randome Oct 2012 #114
No way. Let 'er rip! nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #82
The WH has nothing to do with this, I'd bet. This sounds like a private TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #85
As long as the White House doesn't try to capitalize on it, ejbr Oct 2012 #89
She is representing a client not the White House Liberalynn Oct 2012 #113
Wasn't robme vetted? Or is this the type of a thing all the Republican guys do... Tikki Oct 2012 #72
Wasn't Sista Sarah vetter? Richard D Oct 2012 #122
My guess is that this has something to do with a custody case (not Romney's kid) onenote Oct 2012 #77
That seems more likely to me - TBF Oct 2012 #110
Yep - I bet this has something to do with his role as Bishop in the church and some myrna minx Oct 2012 #121
It's got to be something more than that....him being pro-life isn't a surprise. cbdo2007 Oct 2012 #132
I would definitely buy that get the red out Oct 2012 #135
OK really when the news hit R's are going to say humans are humans rbrnmw Oct 2012 #81
This sounds interesting. TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #83
I say "Swift-Boat him, BC him, Coke him, Willie Horton him"---MAKE ROMNEY CRY "UNCLE." WinkyDink Oct 2012 #92
yeah fuck 'em demwing Oct 2012 #98
Same here. nc4bo Oct 2012 #104
+1 Liberalynn Oct 2012 #115
It would be the first strike of an 11th hour nuclear war. It would definitely be interesting. win_in_06 Oct 2012 #100
Unfortunately for the RPiggies, Obama has been all but x-rayed and strip searched nc4bo Oct 2012 #109
Is there a way to search databases to see what cases Romney has given testimony in? HipChick Oct 2012 #105
A freeper site said it's all about something from 30 years ago flamingdem Oct 2012 #118
Most courts would have databases of that kind of information. Texin Oct 2012 #119
Most ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #138
Oh My!! malaise Oct 2012 #107
Save me some! n/t Melissa G Oct 2012 #116
With or without butter? malaise Oct 2012 #167
With butter, light salt please. Melissa G Oct 2012 #171
Here's how to know if there's anything there: sadbear Oct 2012 #128
I'll bet one of Romney's sons was caught selling lawn darts or something equally heinous slackmaster Oct 2012 #133
"sworn testimony".. "gag order".. "family court".. DCBob Oct 2012 #134
Maybe he physically abused someone easttexaslefty Oct 2012 #144
I shouldn't judge on looks... HipChick Oct 2012 #145
This must be big to force Trump to try to trump it.. DCBob Oct 2012 #146
They got nothing...but hate... HipChick Oct 2012 #147
With Trump involved, this could get wierd fast. grok Oct 2012 #148
About a divorce maybe? jackbenimble Oct 2012 #149
TMZ update krawhitham Oct 2012 #151
It has to be Maureen but this is strange. grok Oct 2012 #153
Is this possibly the issue? aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #154
She made this film despite the gag order? Barack_America Oct 2012 #155
She didn't make the film; it's ABOUT her. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #157
With information regarding their divorce coming from???? Barack_America Oct 2012 #158
The MEDIA???? He was the FOUNDER OF STAPLES. There ARE public details, which are linked to WinkyDink Oct 2012 #164
Sorry, no. Barack_America Oct 2012 #166
"her ex cut off her health insurance even though she had cervical and thyroid cancer." This would be WinkyDink Oct 2012 #156
Here are a few more details about support... grok Oct 2012 #161
What is your point? That a woman who was there BEFORE he was Mr. Staples Magnate deserves much less, WinkyDink Oct 2012 #163
I'm not making a point. grok Oct 2012 #165
This bombshell is probably as lame as Trump's is... cherish44 Oct 2012 #159
Gloria takes high-profile cases, but she is no media whore/Judge Judy. Trump has a TV show he WinkyDink Oct 2012 #162
Follow the Staples money: WinkyDink Oct 2012 #160
Wasn't there something re: Staples stock undervalued in his campaign manager's divorce case? Astazia Oct 2012 #168
Yes, there are a couple of posts about this upthread, or see ... eppur_se_muova Oct 2012 #169
Bingo! eppur_se_muova Oct 2012 #170
Gloria Allred and Donald Trump. NCTraveler Oct 2012 #172
LOL Megahurtz Oct 2012 #173
 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
19. You know that was in the back of my head when the whole Trump thing broke
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 04:54 PM
Oct 2012

That maybe just maybe he was trying to distract from the Gloria Allred rumored October surprise.

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
120. Don't know why she gave everyone a heads up, why didn't she just wait until
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 06:52 PM
Oct 2012

Wednesday and drop the bomb, if she has one.

David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
47. Yep. I do now that you mention it, FSogol.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:10 PM
Oct 2012

When Romney's camp knew the horrific and documented "scissor brutalizing" story, they immediately sent Queen Ann out beforehand to "chat" with the media how Mitt had loved to pull pranks when he was young. This was to preempt the bad story.

The Trump story is to preempt the Allred story.

I believe you called this one.

Texin

(2,597 posts)
102. Yup. That and his usual dog and pony show to flog his Celebrity Apprentice show
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 06:26 PM
Oct 2012

Same hamfisted tactics he uses every year to boost his show's ratings.

oswaldactedalone

(3,491 posts)
3. Guess it's a good time
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 04:46 PM
Oct 2012

to throw mud to counterbalance Trump's divorce or coke sale story. If Trump's story is about divorce then the Dems win the news cycle, if it's about coke, the Thugs win it.

sad sally

(2,627 posts)
33. At the end of last night, as Mr. Mitt-Ann was shaking hands, she grabbed him from behind and hung on
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:03 PM
Oct 2012

for dear life - like he was about to leave her or something.

Beaverhausen

(24,472 posts)
7. I don't think we need this- and it could backfire
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 04:50 PM
Oct 2012

Not sure what it's about, but really, Allred isn't that well-respected these days.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
24. Read closer....
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 04:59 PM
Oct 2012

"The Boston Globe is headed to court tomorrow morning for an emergency hearing in an attempt to obtain a court order to unseal the sworn testimony given by Mitt Romney in a prior court case and to lift a gag order so that the parties can speak about Romney."

Two items:

1. unseal the sworn testimony given by Mitt Romney

....and....

2. lift a gag order so that the parties can speak about Romney

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
20. You could be right about this.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 04:55 PM
Oct 2012

Remember, this is family court and there could be parties here that never felt justice got served. So, the party looking to unseal a document could just be someone looking for payback even if there is nothing really there.

 

femrap

(13,418 posts)
27. Maybe you don't
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:00 PM
Oct 2012

respect her, but a helofalot of women do.

I've read how horribly Mi$$ has treated Mormon women...he was some kind of 'bishop' in Boston. What he said had to be obeyed.

Remember Mormon women are here for: "To bear, to rear, to love."

 

femrap

(13,418 posts)
124. Well
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 07:12 PM
Oct 2012

I guess I strike out on all three....except I can cook when I'm in the mood...just not everyday.

Hekate

(90,827 posts)
123. German slogan during and prior to Third Reich
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 07:12 PM
Oct 2012

Might have been invented by Kaiser Wilhelm, or it might just be an antique model of the perfect German woman, but it certainly served (so the speak) the aims of dictators.

Woman's place: bearing and caring for children, cooking for the family, and praying in the church. Period.

obamanut2012

(26,142 posts)
59. I respect her very much
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:22 PM
Oct 2012

She has been a huge advocate for women and their civil rights for decades upon decades, and her firm does a huge amount of pro bono work.

Because of this, I excuse her occasional grandstanding.

Beaverhausen

(24,472 posts)
68. Uh- I'm female
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:31 PM
Oct 2012

and if you don't think this could backfire, you're just naive.

We don't really know what it's about, so I think we shouldn't get our hopes up.

Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #68)

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
88. I swear some people must still look under their beds for monsters around here
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:49 PM
Oct 2012

Allred has nothing to do with the Obama campaign.

She isn't a prominent surrogate or a surrogate of any kind.

If it's something damaging to Romney, great.

If it's not, it will impact people's opinion of Allred, not of Mitt, and certainly not of Obama.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
141. I don't care for Allred's style of grandstanding
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 08:16 PM
Oct 2012

but it is necessary to have some lawyers who do this in her line of work.

I doubt that the court will unseal anything without a long appeals process.

Response to HipChick (Original post)

 

femrap

(13,418 posts)
51. OOOOOOOOH,
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:16 PM
Oct 2012

that would be too damn sweet! And the baby was born in Mexico, right? Just like George Romney was born in Mexico... due to the anti-polygamy rules here in the US.

I bet it's a daughter and he didn't want her around...after all he has 5 boyz.

I like your idle speculation!

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
57. That's my vote--
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:22 PM
Oct 2012

if it's not this speculation, it sure would make a very believable novel...

I think the name Rielle's already been dropped somewhere around here...

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
70. Does Romney have an "anchor baby?"
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:32 PM
Oct 2012

and has he supported that child, and claimed the child as a dependent? Is that why he won't release his tax records?

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
93. maybe they didn't have all boys
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:55 PM
Oct 2012

maybe after years of keeping them in one of the attics, they adopted them out. lol.

RandySF

(59,238 posts)
13. Probate court?
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 04:52 PM
Oct 2012

In Michigan, that dealt with estates, inheritance and (I think) custody matters. This sounds messy.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
44. Custody matters? Maybe Mittens has another kid running around.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:08 PM
Oct 2012

Would be a valid reason for a gag order. Mitt pays, no one talks.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
54. He's super rich. His 'friends' and 'supporters' don't even like him.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:20 PM
Oct 2012

I think Ann secretly hates him. Some people will do distasteful things for a payoff.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
91. To paraphrase the great Oscar Wilde,
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:53 PM
Oct 2012

Romney has no enemies, but all his friends despise him intensely.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
131. In his youth.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 07:32 PM
Oct 2012

He was a beautiful man once. Most unfortunately, his insides started manifesting on his outsides. He is ugly now. (but not to the deeply, deeply closeted conservative white males who will never admit to having homoerotic fantasies).

Texin

(2,597 posts)
112. It's 'Probate and Family Court'
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 06:44 PM
Oct 2012

That would involve estate matters, divorces and child custody and support issues.

I'm not optimistic that things would be unsealed, but the Globe will certainly be all over this and probably dreging up court records that could point to what's the crux of the issue at hand here.

Response to Champion Jack (Reply #31)

 

femrap

(13,418 posts)
38. This story has been around for a
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:04 PM
Oct 2012

couple of days. Remember what Allred did to the eBay CEO woman running for gov against Jerry Brown????

Allred doesn't yell 'wolf.' And if this is in Boston where Mi$$ is NOT liked at all (400 vetos were overturned).

This could be my early Xmas present.

 

femrap

(13,418 posts)
125. My friend's
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 07:18 PM
Oct 2012

grown adult child lives in Boston and she visits him often and kept up with MA politics. She told me it was 400, but I can go with 800!

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
23. I would certainly like to know about the underlying case.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 04:58 PM
Oct 2012

Of course, it could be anything. He could have testified as a character witness in someone else's domestic case, for instance.

DrewFlorida

(1,096 posts)
26. This is going to be big, Mitt the family man is going down in flames.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:00 PM
Oct 2012

If this undermines Mitt's clean image as a "good family man" then Mitt's presidential hopes will go up in flames.

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
36. Doesn't matter
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:04 PM
Oct 2012

if the gag order is lifted then the injured party can begin spilling the beans immediately.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
43. Then the gag order will not be lifted (there are POWERFUL MEN behind Romney). I'd like to be wrong.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:08 PM
Oct 2012

cags

(1,914 posts)
64. Agree, but just the thought of Romney testifying in family court with a gag order will generate wild
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:24 PM
Oct 2012

speculation and mistrust

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
41. For those suggesting caution: What's this "we should..."? WE are not Obama, Allred, or the courts.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:06 PM
Oct 2012
 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
111. +1
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 06:40 PM
Oct 2012

Totally agree! Allred is acting on behalf of her client not anyone else. Wondering what will come of it, if anything is just human nature.

Response to krawhitham (Reply #55)

Lex

(34,108 posts)
56. I am curious as to why she thinks that the Judge will unseal this testimony and lift the gag order?
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:22 PM
Oct 2012

Anyone know?

obamanut2012

(26,142 posts)
66. was wondering that, too
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:27 PM
Oct 2012

Maybe because it involved a juvenile who is now an adult? Can they ask for that after they reach their majority?

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
63. Any lawyers here?
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:24 PM
Oct 2012

What are the chances the gag order will be lifted and the testimony will be unsealed?

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
140. slim and if it was granted, Mitt can appeal which would keep gag order and testimony sealed
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 08:10 PM
Oct 2012

until sometime next decade.

BUT, when we learn the identify of her client, who is apparently under a gag order, we can work backwards and it might prove interesting. Does the client look like Mitt? Does she/he have a child which could be Mitt's? Was Mitt a party or a witness?

The man has more money than God. Gag orders are usually used when money is involved: If you talk about the case, you have to pay the money back. What kind of case went far enough that Mitt had to testify? And then pay her off? Or did he testify about something in connection with his chruch duties? Or is it a contested probate matter and he testified about what the deceased told him s/he wanted done with his/her property?

I got nothing.

win_in_06

(1,764 posts)
71. The White House should ask her to stand down.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:32 PM
Oct 2012

We are winning. Why do we need this type of stuff? It appears desperate.

flamingdem

(39,328 posts)
80. I wonder if she has shared the information with the White House..
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:39 PM
Oct 2012

They should get a tip if she's truly the supporter she claims to be

Texin

(2,597 posts)
103. I read that she recently met privately with Obama
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 06:29 PM
Oct 2012

Don't know if was related or she was just handing him a political donation, but the timing's certainly interesting. And then there is the odd Trump thing coming tomorrow. Coincidence? I think not.

rainlillie

(1,095 posts)
127. Where did you read this, can you porvide a link?
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 07:23 PM
Oct 2012

I'm not buying that the President met with her. This seems to me to be a case of trying to tie him to whatever dirt comes out about Mitt.

rainlillie

(1,095 posts)
130. If it is a child that he had outside of marriage and the child is underage
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 07:29 PM
Oct 2012

I hope the MSM won't start hounding him/her. Regardless of who the parents are, the child is innocent. I also think the right-wing hate is so intense for the President, they don't care what comes out about Mitt, they're still going to vote for him.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
143. Here's all I could find -- nothing clandestine at all
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 08:21 PM
Oct 2012

Gloria Allred reportedly met with President Obama during a campaign fundraiser at the Nokia Theater in L.A. earlier this month.
She told TMZ about the meeting, “I just thanked him for being the great president that he is and let him know the work that I do. And he indicated that he was very well aware of the work that I do and liked the work that I did and was very very kind.”
She added, “He said to the people there ‘she is one of the best attorneys in our country.’ So that was very very kind of him.”



http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/13231337-republicans-scared-of-proobama-lawyer-gloria-allreds-october-surprise

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
114. I hope not.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 06:45 PM
Oct 2012

If it's something really useful, the WH doesn't want to look like they are in collusion.

If she truly has something, she just needs to get it out there.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
85. The WH has nothing to do with this, I'd bet. This sounds like a private
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:47 PM
Oct 2012

citizen who wishes to speak publicly.

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
89. As long as the White House doesn't try to capitalize on it,
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:50 PM
Oct 2012

they should be okay. And given that it is happening in Massachusetts, it is quite likely OFA will ignore it.

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
113. She is representing a client not the White House
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 06:44 PM
Oct 2012

only the client has the right to ask her to stand down.

Tikki

(14,559 posts)
72. Wasn't robme vetted? Or is this the type of a thing all the Republican guys do...
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:32 PM
Oct 2012

at one time or another.



Tikki

onenote

(42,767 posts)
77. My guess is that this has something to do with a custody case (not Romney's kid)
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:36 PM
Oct 2012

First, the jurisdiction of the Family and Probate court includes the following: wills, trusts and related matters. Also family law issues including divorce, support, custody and adoptions.

Second, earlier this year a couple of Boston Globe reporters wrote a book about Romney that claimed that he had pressured an unmarried women in his church to put her baby up for adoption. It could be that there was another adoption case or custody case in which Romney, in his role as a church leader, testified and his testimony, which was put under seal, will make him look bad. The fact that its the Globe that is seeking to unseal the testimony makes this a plausible speculation.

TBF

(32,098 posts)
110. That seems more likely to me -
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 06:40 PM
Oct 2012

than out of wedlock kids ... he would go to great lengths, I think, to pay off in such a situation and be sure it wouldn't come back to haunt him. But his influence in another case might be something out there.

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
121. Yep - I bet this has something to do with his role as Bishop in the church and some
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 06:55 PM
Oct 2012

kind of "spiritual" coercion.

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
135. I would definitely buy that
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 07:46 PM
Oct 2012

If it could be shown that he pressured a woman to give up their child for adoption that could keep a lot religious folks from bothering to go vote for him.

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
81. OK really when the news hit R's are going to say humans are humans
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:41 PM
Oct 2012

and he will cry ala Jimmy Swaggart I have sinned all will be forgiven and they will say we are being petty This shit only hurts democrats

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
92. I say "Swift-Boat him, BC him, Coke him, Willie Horton him"---MAKE ROMNEY CRY "UNCLE."
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:55 PM
Oct 2012

SICK of pusillanimous Democrats.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
98. yeah fuck 'em
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 06:08 PM
Oct 2012

Obama withstood the heat, and set the bar pretty fucking high.

If you can't stand the heat, don't sit in the seat.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
104. Same here.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 06:29 PM
Oct 2012

The lying sack of corporate shit has it coming.......every single bit of it.

Let 'er rip!

win_in_06

(1,764 posts)
100. It would be the first strike of an 11th hour nuclear war. It would definitely be interesting.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 06:16 PM
Oct 2012

They would drag out some old Jeremiah Wright footage to counter, no doubt.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
109. Unfortunately for the RPiggies, Obama has been all but x-rayed and strip searched
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 06:32 PM
Oct 2012

and has withstood all of that plus some. Dirty laundry has been aired and used against him in every and any form and whatever they do will be nothing but old, stale non-news.

Texin

(2,597 posts)
119. Most courts would have databases of that kind of information.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 06:52 PM
Oct 2012

Dockets, case numbers, dates. This would have happened in the mid-90's (probably) and there's a pretty good chance that records might be searchable online.

Interestingly, since the records were sealed, the implication is there that it's in the 'best interest' of a paricular person in the suit (i.e., minor child). I wouldn't bet my house on this, but I've got a sneaky suspicion that it does involve a child and perhaps paternity and support payments. If you do the quick math, if a child were to have been born in 1994, said child would be 18 years old now. The article mentions two parties in the suit. Maybe a mother and her now adult young child?

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
128. Here's how to know if there's anything there:
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 07:23 PM
Oct 2012

See who Romney sends to represent his interests in court.

easttexaslefty

(1,554 posts)
144. Maybe he physically abused someone
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 08:25 PM
Oct 2012

a family member. Maybe it was invested by cps or something. He is a bully.

 

grok

(550 posts)
148. With Trump involved, this could get wierd fast.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 11:25 PM
Oct 2012


What Gloria needs for is for Romney to make a flat out(don't know anything, never heard of him/her) denial after which she can trickles out little undeniable truths. Works great as long as Romney takes the bait.

What interests me is the Trump factor.

I can think of one scenario that *might* play out:

Trump threatens to "expose" Obama hours before Allred is scheduled to do the same to Romney.

Romney "publicly" appeals to Trump to back down and keep Obama's family private business out of public view. Trump "reluctantly backs down. We never learn if it is actually anything shocking. And Romney looks good by being "gracious" and "magnanimous"

Obama never tells Gloria to stand down, Gloria goes ahead. I haven't the foggiest what she has on Romney but it must seem bad, at least to her.

Now Obama looks like a heel for not appearing "magnanimous" as well.

Obama says he has nothing to do with Allred. But it's too late.


This all reminds me of a film Henry Fonda made about political scandal.

krawhitham

(4,647 posts)
151. TMZ update
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 11:48 PM
Oct 2012
http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/23/mitt-romney-divorce-thomas-stemberg-maureen-staples-gloria-allred-boston-globe/

Romney, Stemberg and Maureen were all served papers by the Globe notifying them that the paper was trying to unseal the case and lift the gag order enforced on all parties.

According to an article in the Boston Globe in 2005, Maureen received nearly 500,000 shares of Staples stock in the divorce ... but sold have her shares before the company went public.

Our sources say Tom has filed papers opposing the Globe's motion. Romney's lawyers have not responded.


...
We're told Gloria Allred represents someone connected with the divorce and we believe -- though we have not confirmed it -- that is Maureen.



http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/23/mitt-romney-divorce-thomas-stemberg-maureen-staples-gloria-allred-boston-globe/
 

grok

(550 posts)
153. It has to be Maureen but this is strange.
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:10 AM
Oct 2012

Thomas is still a friend and supports Romney. Which means to me Romney is unlikely to have been messing with his wife,

UNLESS it was something like this....

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/senate-race-sex-scandal


Note that it took months for those records to be unsealed.


It's not going to happen in just two weeks.,

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
154. Is this possibly the issue?
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:14 AM
Oct 2012

Romney was pals with the CEO of Staples and testified on his behalf and against his wife Maureen in their divorce. A documentary film was made about Maureen and the injustice done to her. Her husband cut her off from her from her health insurance while she had cervical and thyroid cancer and Romney helped him do it.


http://www.divorce360.com/blogs/2008/10/30/dorene-page/movie-about-scorned-exwife-of-staples-founder-blog-15646

"...Movie About Scorned Ex-Wife of Staples Founder

“The Maureen Sullivan Stemberg Story: A Portrait in Courage” is a film about her battle with her ex, the founder of staples, to get a fair divorce settlement.

According to the article, her ex cut off her health insurance even though she had cervical and thyroid cancer. Strangely enough, her ex worked with Mitt Romney on the subject of everyone having a right to health insurance.

Maureen still battles immune deficiencies, and filed bankruptcy because of her money problems with her ex. She's writing a book about immune deficiencies called, "Looks Are Deceiving". That one will be a must read for me, because of my illnesses and the fact that even though I'm very sick, I don't look like someone who's disease ridden. ..."

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
164. The MEDIA???? He was the FOUNDER OF STAPLES. There ARE public details, which are linked to
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:37 AM
Oct 2012

now in several posts.

Don't pretend to know what is precisely in the documentary and then take umbrage on your imaginings.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
166. Sorry, no.
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:53 AM
Oct 2012

From the full press release:

"Maureen Sullivan Stemberg will provide an in-depth account in this first-time tell all tale of the interweaving relationships and strange bedfellow that business has made in her life. Such luminaries include former Governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney - who was the former Republican nominee in the 2008 Presidential campaign, as well as one of the first major investors for Staples while he was employed by Bain Capital, Boston, MA. This story will include the injustice of the Mass. Probate Justice system. Other heavy hitting names have yet to be released in this as of yet untold story including Dola Davis Hamilton Stemberg."

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2008/10/prweb1536704.htm

Perhaps this prompted the gag order.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
156. "her ex cut off her health insurance even though she had cervical and thyroid cancer." This would be
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:18 AM
Oct 2012

VERY DIFFICULT, indeed, IMPOSSIBLE for Romney to explain away, IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER.

There is ZERO "wiggle room" here for Romney, since he showcased the ex-husband rich guy at the Convention.

 

grok

(550 posts)
161. Here are a few more details about support...
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:31 AM
Oct 2012

keep in mind this is second-hand. till somebody has a better link from the boston herald directly....

http://forum.purseblog.com/general-discussion/should-wealthy-executives-ex-wife-get-more-money-44446.html
...............
Staples founder’s ex-wife: I’ll be out on the street
By Margery Eagan
Boston Herald Columnist

Sunday, September 3, 2006

Maureen Sullivan Stemberg, ex-wife of Staples founder, sits in her $5,200 a month, 14th-floor, concierge-at-the-door, elegantly furnished Back Bay apartment and tells you she’s broke. She can’t work. She can’t afford a car, her medications, her rent, even the family springer spaniel, J.J., who she just gave away.

She produces doctors notes detailing medical woes: possible lupus, bouts of pneumonia requiring hospitalizations, a history of cancer, petit mal seizures, plus recommendations for thrice weekly psychotherapy and psychiatry. She says her insurance won’t cover mental health care.

“I’m going to be out on the street,” says Sullivan Stemberg, a tiny, 50-ish woman who alternates between an overanxious recitation of worries, and tears. “I’ve had a change of circumstances.”

And now she wants her ex-husband, Tom Stemberg, whose worth has been estimated at upwards of $150 million, to dramatically increase his support, guarantee health insurance forever and buy her another home in a concierge building. “I’m sicker and thinner every day,” she says. “I’m not asking for anything more than he did for his other wife and girlfriend.”


...................

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
163. What is your point? That a woman who was there BEFORE he was Mr. Staples Magnate deserves much less,
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:34 AM
Oct 2012

now that she has LUPUS?

Romney down-played the worth of Staples stock UNDER OATH in order to reduce Maureen's settlement.

Now go ruminate over THAT.

 

grok

(550 posts)
165. I'm not making a point.
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:42 AM
Oct 2012

Just providing more info for others to verify, exand and extrapolate on.

The more info, the better. Not less.

cherish44

(2,566 posts)
159. This bombshell is probably as lame as Trump's is...
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:28 AM
Oct 2012

Both Trump and Allred are self-serving, narcissistic attention whores who just want to get their names in the news.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
162. Gloria takes high-profile cases, but she is no media whore/Judge Judy. Trump has a TV show he
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:32 AM
Oct 2012

promotes.

The two are not in the least equivalent.

And more to the point: Why are you on Romney's side here?

Astazia

(262 posts)
168. Wasn't there something re: Staples stock undervalued in his campaign manager's divorce case?
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:00 AM
Oct 2012

He testified in his longtime friend & business buddy's divorce re: stock value less than market estimates. (public record for the most part ) The thing is...if my memory serves me...like a month or so after this divorce was settled, Staples went public. (the shares were worth much more then)

I hope it is something about his blatant dishonesty whether it's about his taxes, his history with women as Bishop in the LDS, or perhaps something to do with an illegal act be it perjury or financial scheming.

As far as Bollocks Trump is concerned it's a tie between ratings grabber for CA, or just something he thinks will distract ppl from whatever GA is presenting to be unsealed.

I won't get my hopes up. Could it be an ctober surprise? (in the best of ways)

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
172. Gloria Allred and Donald Trump.
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:22 PM
Oct 2012

Campaigning to see who can reach the bottom first. The Donald will edge her out, just barely.

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