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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 08:14 PM Oct 2012

Where does all the campaign money end up??

The Super-pacs and individual contributions to both campaigns will probably surpass a billion dollars before election day? Where does that money go?

I suppose a big proportion may go to the television networks, both cable and regular? They have a huge stake in promoting these endless campaigns but they pretend they are independent voices, just looking out for the people's interests. When, in fact, they are looking out for their own interests and their own bonuses and salaries.

It is to their benefit, not ours, if they can build up scenarios where the races are close, where rumors are promoted as news, where polls are given several times per day, where they can make a horse race out of it.

They work hard at their propaganda. And they deserve the big bucks they make off campaign contributions.

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Where does all the campaign money end up?? (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2012 OP
I'll tell you jberryhill Oct 2012 #1
The MSM intends to get as much of it as possible, by any means necessary. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #2
+1 Joe Shlabotnik Oct 2012 #15
rMoney's ass. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #3
I think a lot of it also went up Bush's nose. nt madinmaryland Oct 2012 #13
The debates are over. I have voted. russspeakeasy Oct 2012 #4
I also have been wondering and troubled by this. blue_heron Oct 2012 #5
That's just one of the reasons we HAVE to Shankapotomus Oct 2012 #6
The money goes to lots of places ... Tx4obama Oct 2012 #7
High priced Consultants that are supposed to be partisans, bluestate10 Oct 2012 #11
I have some skin in the game, this is my view. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #8
A lot goes to pay campaign workers for GOTV, phone calling, mailing Romney campaign literature. AlinPA Oct 2012 #9
If you really want to know - join this crowd sourcing effort to find out Ms. Toad Oct 2012 #10
Thanks Ms. Toad! kentuck Oct 2012 #12
USPS Fla_Democrat Oct 2012 #14
Obama's given something like a third of his donations Nevernose Oct 2012 #16
And once he gives it to the Senate candidates...? kentuck Oct 2012 #17

russspeakeasy

(6,539 posts)
4. The debates are over. I have voted.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 08:32 PM
Oct 2012

The best part; I'm done with MSM and depending on DU to keep me informed.

blue_heron

(223 posts)
5. I also have been wondering and troubled by this.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 08:46 PM
Oct 2012

Just as lobbying in congress is suspect to conflict of interest, so too in my mind is the payment(s) to networks in ad buys which sway the executives, if not the show hosts. It pays for all these pundits to air their opinions to sway the listeners. And I'm tired of them paying (or giving free air time) a**holes who spout ridiculous lies.

With the obscene amounts of money at stake, i feel like the media needs to take a real hard look at itself. And maybe have some investigations turned on themselves. With the cries of Romney show me your taxes (which I agree with) we should be crying Networks show us your books! Maybe an independent legal review.

I know, I'm dreaming. .

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
6. That's just one of the reasons we HAVE to
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 08:55 PM
Oct 2012

make campaign finance reform a priority of the next election. We HAVE to get money out of politics. The Republicans have fought tooth & nail for redistricting because they know it can improve their chances in elections. We have to do the same with campaign finance reform. We could win these elections if money was taken out entirely. Campaign finance reform is to our advantage. The Republicans don't have the people. All they have is the corporations and their money. We take that away from them and they are finished.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
7. The money goes to lots of places ...
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 09:02 PM
Oct 2012

Corporations that own TV and radio stations

Salaries and health insurance for campaign employees.

The post office for postage, printers for mailers.

To folks that own the buildings the campaigns rent for the offices, the electric company, telephone company.

Stadiums, halls, etc. where the rallies and town halls take place.

Airfare, hotels, food, gas, security.

And a zillion other places.







bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
11. High priced Consultants that are supposed to be partisans,
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 09:16 PM
Oct 2012

but get paid millions of donated dollars. I am a partisan, I don't want to see the crude leadership that modern republicans offer take over the country, I sacrifice to bring about that end. I want to see high priced Consultants become real partisans that are fighting for important principles, not over paid shills.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
8. I have some skin in the game, this is my view.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 09:05 PM
Oct 2012

There is a cynical cottage industry of consultants, call centers and field consultants that soak up a enormous amount of money. I leave organizations like Emily's List and ActBlue out of that mix because I feel that they operate as passionate boosters for democrats. I have gotten angry at the DSCC, the DNC and the Democratic House campaign. All call asking for more money and I don't see any fucking effort by them to spend every dollar wisely and send money to the most critical need area. I have particular ire for the DNC because it is supposed to be the fucking coordinating group for democrats. In the end, all those groups recognize that people like me will send more money because the alternatives are horrible for us. I just wish the fuck that those groups would recognize that even fortunate people have other activities going on that require money and run their organizations like I run my finances, I analyze and don't spend any fucking dollar that does not have the maximum impact that I desired. When I travel, I stay at mid priced hotels, I want to see national democratic organizations making the same type of choice. To be fair, poor, middle class and upper middle class republican donors face the same dynamic from their party organizations.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
9. A lot goes to pay campaign workers for GOTV, phone calling, mailing Romney campaign literature.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 09:08 PM
Oct 2012

Romney and Ryan's jet planes cost a lot to operate and SuperPACs can easily cover those costs.

Ms. Toad

(34,101 posts)
10. If you really want to know - join this crowd sourcing effort to find out
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 09:13 PM
Oct 2012
http://www.propublica.org/series/free-the-files

It is a fascinating project. TV stations are required to make their contracts electronically available, and ProPublica is on a mission (with the crowd's help) to sort out who is spending what, where.

Here is part of what they know so far: http://www.propublica.org/article/free-the-files-tracks-294-million-in-tv-ads-with-obama-topping-buyer-list

Fla_Democrat

(2,547 posts)
14. USPS
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 09:54 PM
Oct 2012
http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/12/news/economy/election-bailout-postal-service/index.html



The postal service is on track to surpass an original estimate of $285 million, which includes the haul from local races nationwide, said Cliff Rucker, vice president of USPS sales.




Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
16. Obama's given something like a third of his donations
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:36 AM
Oct 2012

To on-the-cusp senate candidates (Warren, Berkley, and a couple others I can't recall) and the Democratic Party.

Legally speaking, anything leftover they're allowed to keep, at least in most states.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
17. And once he gives it to the Senate candidates...?
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:38 AM
Oct 2012

Then who do they give it to? Doesn't it still end up in the same hands??

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