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NYC mayor Eric Adams: "You see, the problem is that you didn't have enough swagger to defeat covid." (Original Post) tenderfoot Jan 2022 OP
Politicians with swagger is one thing the world needs a lot less of. DavidDvorkin Jan 2022 #1
Wow. He is really full himself. Way to go NYC. Go ahead blast me. I do not care. JanMichael Jan 2022 #2
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Another reminder that there is no qualification for an elected... TreasonousBastard Jan 2022 #4
Lol good luck with that. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2022 #5
Oh goody, more male ego in politics Walleye Jan 2022 #6
Stevie Wonder could see this train wreck coming. Might as well start setting Vinca Jan 2022 #7
Totally Me. Jan 2022 #168
Post removed Post removed Jan 2022 #8
From comments read on another post, rownesheck Jan 2022 #9
What a dope. WestIndianArchie Jan 2022 #10
JFC. It's a virus, not ISIS n/t leftstreet Jan 2022 #11
Viruses fear swagger nt XanaDUer2 Jan 2022 #12
Quick. Somebody bottle up some swagger. Could be the next de-wormer. Solly Mack Jan 2022 #13
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Oh Boy WHITT Jan 2022 #15
What an ass. So sorry for NY - my beloved hometown. Still consider myself a NYer rather than a Nanjeanne Jan 2022 #16
Who's he talking to?! Joe SCABS & Mika Mouse gushed on him today like they did with Drumpf UTUSN Jan 2022 #17
Joe and Mika live in Connecticut. madaboutharry Jan 2022 #29
Where did he say what your title has in quotes? nt Atticus Jan 2022 #18
Good question PatSeg Jan 2022 #23
That was my view. "Inartful" language but, in context, meant to encourage. Atticus Jan 2022 #24
It is a bit unsettling PatSeg Jan 2022 #27
Thank you, Pat sheshe2 Jan 2022 #58
Happy New Year sheshe! PatSeg Jan 2022 #61
To you and yours as well, Pat. sheshe2 Jan 2022 #65
Some are intentional, some are not. I suspect many are though. On a humorous note, not a headline... George II Jan 2022 #83
Ha, ha, ha!!! PatSeg Jan 2022 #151
Agreed. I watched the video to see if he said what the OP title... brush Jan 2022 #30
Thank you. I wonder if some didn't wander out from under the bridge. nt Atticus Jan 2022 #36
Heehee. brush Jan 2022 #42
After all the years of dealing with right-wing media PatSeg Jan 2022 #59
Here's Adams saying it... brooklynite Jan 2022 #148
Come on Brooklynite, you're one of my favorite posters... brush Jan 2022 #164
I read the OP: I thought it was a reasonable summary. brooklynite Jan 2022 #165
I'm from the publishing world. You can't pipe a quote. brush Jan 2022 #167
No one did. The Mayor's office put out the full transcript, and the OP was accurate. pnwmom Jan 2022 #175
We're not talking about the "wallowing in covid" phrase. brush Jan 2022 #178
I posted his full 34 MINUTE address further down. Here it is: George II Jan 2022 #40
Thank you PatSeg Jan 2022 #60
It's the word swagger JustAnotherGen Jan 2022 #101
Right. They did stop short of saying he should know his place though. brush Jan 2022 #106
I know JustAnotherGen Jan 2022 #134
NOBODY made up a quote. It's in the transcript from the Mayor's office. pnwmom Jan 2022 #170
Wrong. Those exact words are not in the transcript. brush Jan 2022 #174
We've had 5 years of watching Trump swagger. Most of us have watched enough swaggering pnwmom Jan 2022 #140
He couldn't swagger JustAnotherGen Jan 2022 #156
But Adams didn't say what the OP attributed to him. brush Jan 2022 #166
Yes, he did. There's a transcript -- from the Mayor's office. pnwmom Jan 2022 #169
Again, the OP made up a quote and attributed it to Adams. brush Jan 2022 #176
Obviously - we can't JustAnotherGen Jan 2022 #184
Thank you JAG. It's posters like you who keep me coming back.... brush Jan 2022 #186
Because Trump is the epitome of swagger, and most of us are sick to death of it. n/t pnwmom Jan 2022 #171
+1000 smirkymonkey Jan 2022 #181
Trump is an obese spoiled brat man child - Zero Swagger - Not a cool cat n/t JustAnotherGen Jan 2022 #183
Not only that, but it's a 28 second excerpt lifted from a much longer address, with no context. George II Jan 2022 #32
Here's the transcript. pnwmom Jan 2022 #141
Wow, that's a lot of swagger! BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #150
Well, it was him vs. Curtis Sliwa. Now there is a piece of work. I recall, the opening of Sliwa''s 3Hotdogs Jan 2022 #19
It wasn't just him or Sliwa. Remember he won the primary over 12 other Democrats. George II Jan 2022 #117
Swagger is a poor substitute for a confident, competent stride. n/t Harker Jan 2022 #20
:) That's what THIS meaning and use of the word means. Hortensis Jan 2022 #119
Fair enough. Harker Jan 2022 #130
New Yorkers do have swagger. They couldn't survive in that city... brush Jan 2022 #187
Oh boy. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Carlitos Brigante Jan 2022 #22
What an ass. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2022 #25
"wallowing" in COVID (a.k.a taking it seriously) is exactly what everyone needs to be doing cadoman Jan 2022 #26
He reminds me a bit of Ben Carson. nt woodsprite Jan 2022 #28
Except he appears to be awake most of the time. n/t Mr.Bill Jan 2022 #34
WHAT? Dorian Gray Jan 2022 #91
No: George II Jan 2022 #126
I was actually talking about his "swagger", some of his odd out-of-touch remarks, and money. nt woodsprite Jan 2022 #146
Only 28 seconds, with no context, taken out of a much longer address. George II Jan 2022 #31
And nowhere did he say the "quote" in the OP. nt Atticus Jan 2022 #37
Why do people keep saying that? From the Office of the Mayor's transcript: pnwmom Jan 2022 #172
I guess I will ask AGAIN: where do you see the Mayor saying the sentence attributed to him by Atticus Jan 2022 #177
That was a reasonable paraphrase but, yes, he should have left off the quotation marks. pnwmom Jan 2022 #179
I do not agree that was a "reasonable paraphrase".. I believe it was the rearrangement of some of Atticus Jan 2022 #180
Big-talking man. Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani swaggered. This is weird. Something strange nt delisen Jan 2022 #33
Here's the full THIRTY FOUR MINUTE address (not just 28 sec) Watch it and let us know.... George II Jan 2022 #35
Thank you. nt Atticus Jan 2022 #38
Well LOOK here! Mayor Adams speech in Full Context Budi Jan 2022 #50
"The safest place for our children is in a school building" (1:50) wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #54
Swagger 101 Celerity Jan 2022 #75
It's a 34 minute video, not 28 seconds and not 1:50 or so. And nothing personal, I'm not your buddy. George II Jan 2022 #102
You Seem Confused wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #120
No I'm not. And I'm not your "scooter", or your "buddy", or your "sport", or any of the other.... George II Jan 2022 #138
Also, congratulations to your "Buffalo Party" mayor wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #143
... betsuni Jan 2022 #144
I don't get it wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #145
Eric Adams is the Democratic mayor of New York City. PS - I've supported Democrats since 1972. George II Jan 2022 #152
Plus the "Buffalo Party" mayor wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #153
What are you talking about? I know you're trying to deflect this discussion to the mayor of Buffalo. George II Jan 2022 #154
You're the one who first brought up Mayor Brown wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #160
Here are the two full paragraphs from the address, as provided by the Mayor's Office, pnwmom Jan 2022 #173
Question for New Yorkers, Law and Order SVU fans Diablo del sol Jan 2022 #39
Why do you ask, think Adams is a "weenie"? George II Jan 2022 #46
character was a weenie Diablo del sol Jan 2022 #52
Mayor Eric Adams most certainly is NOT a "weenie". George II Jan 2022 #69
the new larwdem Jan 2022 #41
It's a "We're going to beat this" speech Sympthsical Jan 2022 #43
Yup. At least, the term "uppity" hasn't been used---yet. nt Atticus Jan 2022 #44
Exactly. Not-so-subtle racism pops up here sometimes. brush Jan 2022 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author Atticus Jan 2022 #45
+1 George II Jan 2022 #63
+1 betsuni Jan 2022 #89
I'd describe Dorian Gray Jan 2022 #111
Where did he say "You see, the problem is that you didn't have enough swagger to defeat covid."? George II Jan 2022 #47
He never said that. Are we allowed to do that now... NurseJackie Jan 2022 #51
Thanks. Keep 'em honest, Jackie. Silence is complicity. nt Atticus Jan 2022 #77
+100. Seems routine now since about 2015. Nixie Jan 2022 #92
More like since 2009, when this was done to Obama, too. George II Jan 2022 #116
Saw him this morning snowybirdie Jan 2022 #48
The Recount invented a line from Adam's speech & ran it as a headline Budi Jan 2022 #49
It's not even the headline of The Recount. George II Jan 2022 #55
This is the second time Eric Adams' was "quoted" for something he didn't actually say lapucelle Jan 2022 #94
I thought so but couldn't remember where. Long discussion about how quotes work. betsuni Jan 2022 #96
Falsely quoting someone is a shitty and DISHONEST thing to do... NurseJackie Jan 2022 #147
He did not say "we didn't have enough swagger to defeat covid" NYC Liberal Jan 2022 #53
"We've allowed people to beat us down so much that all we did was wallow in COVID." wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #57
He's correct, especially in the context and COMPLETE thought he was presenting, both before.... George II Jan 2022 #62
That thinking is delusional wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #64
Yes, "up" 395% - from an infinitesimally low 22 to 109. When you're starting off with a very low... George II Jan 2022 #67
THIS sheshe2 Jan 2022 #68
Covid deaths were very low, until they weren't wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #71
People are taking it seriously, that's why they keep statistics and follow trends. But suddenly..... George II Jan 2022 #76
You'd be singing a different tune if it were 109 kids who were shot wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #78
Why are you calling Democrat Eric Adams the "Buffalo Party" mayor? lapucelle Jan 2022 #84
Operative word is "Buffalo" wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #85
He's salty a literal socialist lost to the democratic mayor in the general election in buffalo mathematic Jan 2022 #158
This is a different mayor. Eric Adams is the mayor of NYC. lapucelle Jan 2022 #86
Read the post I was replying to wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #87
Yes...and? Eric Adams is the mayor of NYC. This thread is about Eric Adams. lapucelle Jan 2022 #90
This was the post I was actually replying to wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #93
Why are you misrepresenting what he said? mcar Jan 2022 #56
Good question. sheshe2 Jan 2022 #70
Not-so-subtle racism is all over this thread. He didn't say that. brush Jan 2022 #72
I thought that myself but was hesitant to bring it up. He's being "Obama-ed", if anyone remembers... George II Jan 2022 #79
Yes. I remember. Pres. Obama got a couple of weeks, Adams... brush Jan 2022 #81
This is the second time Eric Adams' didn't actually say what he was quoted as saying. lapucelle Jan 2022 #95
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Jan 2022 #73
He's going to be a terrible mayor budkin Jan 2022 #74
Two and a half days into his term, why do you say that? I actually think he's going to be.... George II Jan 2022 #80
GSD JustAnotherGen Jan 2022 #97
With swagger?? budkin Jan 2022 #98
It's a wonderful start JustAnotherGen Jan 2022 #100
I disagree. Are you an New Yorker? George II Jan 2022 #104
I'm a native New Yorker budkin Jan 2022 #185
:) Probably not. Buck up. I can't think of a job with more different things Hortensis Jan 2022 #99
No question? Dorian Gray Jan 2022 #112
What a thread Piasladic Jan 2022 #82
Guess it's a trend to incorrectly use quotes to misrepresent what Democrats say. betsuni Jan 2022 #88
And if one can't incorrectly use a quote, just make one up. George II Jan 2022 #118
lol. He might be right though ecstatic Jan 2022 #103
The more he talks the less I like him gldstwmn Jan 2022 #105
What's wrong with the word swagger? betsuni Jan 2022 #107
What the word means and who it reminds us of. Haven't we had enough boasting for a lifetime? pnwmom Jan 2022 #109
No. If the swaggering is real, New Yorkers being confident, nothing to do with Trump. betsuni Jan 2022 #110
You're using an odd definition of swagger. Did you read the one from the dictionary? pnwmom Jan 2022 #121
No, it isn't. I'm old and not stupid. betsuni Jan 2022 #123
So you disagree with the Merriam Webster definition? pnwmom Jan 2022 #124
Oh, the status quo establishment centrist definition? betsuni Jan 2022 #127
Apparently that HE said it? NYC is FAMOUS for its swagger. Hortensis Jan 2022 #113
First time I visited NYC in my early twenties I was inspired by the swagger. betsuni Jan 2022 #114
That's the opposite of swagger. pnwmom Jan 2022 #125
Yes it is. betsuni Jan 2022 #128
Link, please. I'd like to see any dictionary definition that defines swagger that way.Here's another pnwmom Jan 2022 #129
Roget's Thesaurus. It's a book. betsuni Jan 2022 #131
It's not a dictionary. pnwmom Jan 2022 #135
Oh, a "bunch"? Well, that settles it. betsuni Jan 2022 #136
Walking bustling, confident streets is not "swagger." pnwmom Jan 2022 #122
:) If you were NYmom you'd know what it meant about you. Hortensis Jan 2022 #142
I am a former NYer and I totally agree with you. smirkymonkey Jan 2022 #182
New Yorkers HAVE "swagger", and a way of bustling around like you say. I remember when.... George II Jan 2022 #133
Swagger is about boastfulness, obnoxiousness and braggadocio -- not speed. n;t pnwmom Jan 2022 #139
His main idea may have been good Meowmee Jan 2022 #108
Did you watch the entire video, or at least what he said before... George II Jan 2022 #115
What he said in that excerpt, I am not happy with it Meowmee Jan 2022 #132
tenderfoot JustAnotherGen Jan 2022 #137
He said what he said and a lot of people were put off by it. tenderfoot Jan 2022 #157
Here's what he said JustAnotherGen Jan 2022 #162
A lot of swagger and not much else. tenderfoot Jan 2022 #163
My best friend just ordered some swagger tests today. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #188
Mayor Gunnut. Kid Berwyn Jan 2022 #149
I do not understand why New Yorkers voted for this man helpisontheway Jan 2022 #155
Post removed Post removed Jan 2022 #159
Who is wallowing in Covid? I'm not. Nobody I know is. I don't think many people in DU are. marie999 Jan 2022 #161

Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
4. Another reminder that there is no qualification for an elected...
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 01:46 PM
Jan 2022

official other than he or she get the most votes.

Vinca

(50,358 posts)
7. Stevie Wonder could see this train wreck coming. Might as well start setting
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 01:48 PM
Jan 2022

up the tent hospitals now. Never thought Adams was the best choice and he seems to be proving it.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
168. Totally
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 03:17 PM
Jan 2022

have eye issues myself and could see it coming, I have wondered if he will even last 4 years without a recall.. The first ranked choice election and this is who we got.

Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
9. From comments read on another post,
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 01:49 PM
Jan 2022

NYC residents seem to hate every mayor they've ever had. Maybe they just vote people in so they can hate on them.

Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Nanjeanne

(5,021 posts)
16. What an ass. So sorry for NY - my beloved hometown. Still consider myself a NYer rather than a
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 02:13 PM
Jan 2022

Nutmegger. But that's man was never one I could have gotten behind.

madaboutharry

(40,252 posts)
29. Joe and Mika live in Connecticut.
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 03:07 PM
Jan 2022

No matter how much he screws up it doesn’t impact them, except for the traffic.

PatSeg

(47,876 posts)
23. Good question
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 02:24 PM
Jan 2022

The video did not really reflect what the subject line said. I don't really like the word swagger all that much, but what he said was not that bad. He was basically saying that New Yorkers have spunk and would survive.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
24. That was my view. "Inartful" language but, in context, meant to encourage.
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 02:35 PM
Jan 2022

Did no one else read or listen to what the man ACTUALLY said----or are we just thread title readers?

PatSeg

(47,876 posts)
27. It is a bit unsettling
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 02:46 PM
Jan 2022

how reactive some of the comments are. If we see something in quotes after someone's name, we assume they said it.

I listened to the very short video, because I couldn't believe he could be so insensitive and apparently he wasn't. Sadly, this isn't the first time I've seen a subject line or headline differ considerably from the content of a post or article. A lot of major publications do it as well and being we live in an era of Tweets and memes, it can be very misleading.

George II

(67,782 posts)
83. Some are intentional, some are not. I suspect many are though. On a humorous note, not a headline...
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 08:21 PM
Jan 2022

...but this afternoon I saw this on CNN's screen. Couldn't help laughing after I got over my initial nausea. trump "bare"?

brush

(54,081 posts)
30. Agreed. I watched the video to see if he said what the OP title...
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 03:13 PM
Jan 2022

said he did, but he didn't. And so many posters jumped on the bandwagon to disparage him. Did they even bother to watch the 15 second video?

He basically said the city will survive.

He's been in office two days and he's being bashed by some here worse than Manchin and Sinema, who deserve bashing after months and months of DINO-like behavior.

Let's see what he does before throwing him completely under the bus. He is a Democrat.

PatSeg

(47,876 posts)
59. After all the years of dealing with right-wing media
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 06:58 PM
Jan 2022

and republicans, we should be more careful passing judgment based on one or two sentences on the Internet.

I agree, we should give him a chance before we throw him under the bus.

brush

(54,081 posts)
164. Come on Brooklynite, you're one of my favorite posters...
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 03:11 PM
Jan 2022

but you missed this one. The OP made up a quote and attributed it to Adams. And it's not the one you've posted.

The OP posted that Adam's said "we didn't have enough swagger to beat covid." We're not talking about the "wallow in covid" phrase.

pnwmom

(109,032 posts)
175. No one did. The Mayor's office put out the full transcript, and the OP was accurate.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 03:56 PM
Jan 2022

And there's no context to justify the wallowing in Covid statement.

brush

(54,081 posts)
178. We're not talking about the "wallowing in covid" phrase.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 04:02 PM
Jan 2022

What was made up and in the headline of the OP is a made up quote saying that Adams said: "...we didn't have enough swagger to beat covid."

He didn't say those exact words in that exact order. That was made up.

Got it now?

JustAnotherGen

(32,146 posts)
101. It's the word swagger
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 11:24 PM
Jan 2022

If he had been "proper-like" and used the word panache - people wouldn't be choking on their lattes in anger.

brush

(54,081 posts)
106. Right. They did stop short of saying he should know his place though.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 05:02 AM
Jan 2022

He's not a progressive Dem, or even a center-left Dem but he is a Democrat and we should give him a chance.

I mean two days in and people on DU of all places are already giving up on him because an OP poster made up a quote and attributed it to him. In other words, the OP headline is a lie.

JustAnotherGen

(32,146 posts)
134. I know
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 07:53 AM
Jan 2022

But they need their *opponent*.

The Democratic Party has a problem from within.

I wonder if they would be as angry if Curtis Sliwa was Mayor - and actually SAID something?

The guy didn't say it. I have a link to the transcript in the AfAm group.

pnwmom

(109,032 posts)
170. NOBODY made up a quote. It's in the transcript from the Mayor's office.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 03:45 PM
Jan 2022

https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/001-22/transcript-mayor-adams-chancellor-banks-deliver-remarks-concourse-village-elementary-school#/0

Mayor: When a Mayor has swagger, the city has swagger. We've allowed people to beat us down so much that all we did was wallow in COVID. It’s we did, and we no longer believed this is a city of swagger. This is a city of resiliency. And all of these messages out there of what is going to happen? What is going to happen? We're going to survive. And your message, your direct comment, your forcefulness matching yours and matching the rest of ours, we're not going to be defined by COVID, by crime, by economy. And you know why? Because we've went through some stuff. All of us, all of us have went through some stuff. So, this is nothing to those who have gone through a lot. We’re going to be here and turn our city around. You inspired me sister. You inspired me.

[Applause]

That’s why I got so much swagger. We need a Mayor of swagger. We need a Council Woman with swagger. We need Assembly Women with swagger. We need a Borough President with swagger. We need a Chancellor with swagger. We need a Police Commissioner with swagger. This is New York. It's a privilege to live in New York, and the leadership should have that swagger, that's what was what has been missing in this city. Well, you inspired me.

brush

(54,081 posts)
174. Wrong. Those exact words are not in the transcript.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 03:55 PM
Jan 2022

The OP made up words and attibuted them to Adams.

I'm from the publishing world. You can't pipe a quote. When you say someone said something, it has to be the exact words in the exact order.

Copy and paste where Adams says "we didn't have enough swagger to beat covid." You can't because he didn't say those exact words in that exact order. He said he has swagger. The city has swagger and so on. He did not say the city didn't have enough swagger to beat covid.

Got it now? One has to accurate with quotes.

pnwmom

(109,032 posts)
140. We've had 5 years of watching Trump swagger. Most of us have watched enough swaggering
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 08:02 AM
Jan 2022

for a lifetime.

JustAnotherGen

(32,146 posts)
156. He couldn't swagger
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 11:21 AM
Jan 2022

That elderly obese thing had ZERO swagger. Just an overgrown spoiled little brat who had everything handed to him on a platter.

I think black America - we desperately NEED swagger. I need it. I need to know that there are people out there that will get up in the grill of the white American racist and make them lose their shit - just for being fabulous.

This man came from NOTHING. I've read posts at du applauding elon musk - who is a menace to society, who had everything handed to him on a silver platter.

I give people that look like me, and who are successful, more room than white America to be themselves. I contrast all of the opportunities my parents gave me - with everything he had to fight tooth and nail for.

If I had been beaten while in jail in NY state as a teenager - my dad would have placed a personal call to Cuomo the first. And Cuomo would have taken it.

Swagger is the black police officer that stopped his beating. He was impressed with his 'swagger'. That 'swagger' that go two white cops to stop beating him.

Swagger is good in black folks. I've seen this gentleman compared to Ben Carson on this thread.

I'm like - are these people fucking kidding me?

Ben Carson is a dweebie mon zweebie - who played the part of the 'one black man' that Malcolm X warned us about.

The fact that he disgusts people - makes me like him more. If you are pissing off the dominant culture just being yourself and BASKING in well deserved success - you are my kind of people.

brush

(54,081 posts)
166. But Adams didn't say what the OP attributed to him.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 03:14 PM
Jan 2022

Plain and simple. The OP poster made that up.

pnwmom

(109,032 posts)
169. Yes, he did. There's a transcript -- from the Mayor's office.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 03:40 PM
Jan 2022
https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/001-22/transcript-mayor-adams-chancellor-banks-deliver-remarks-concourse-village-elementary-school#/0

Mayor: When a Mayor has swagger, the city has swagger. We've allowed people to beat us down so much that all we did was wallow in COVID. It’s we did, and we no longer believed this is a city of swagger. This is a city of resiliency. And all of these messages out there of what is going to happen? What is going to happen? We're going to survive. And your message, your direct comment, your forcefulness matching yours and matching the rest of ours, we're not going to be defined by COVID, by crime, by economy. And you know why? Because we've went through some stuff. All of us, all of us have went through some stuff. So, this is nothing to those who have gone through a lot. We’re going to be here and turn our city around. You inspired me sister. You inspired me.

[Applause]

That’s why I got so much swagger. We need a Mayor of swagger. We need a Council Woman with swagger. We need Assembly Women with swagger. We need a Borough President with swagger. We need a Chancellor with swagger. We need a Police Commissioner with swagger. This is New York. It's a privilege to live in New York, and the leadership should have that swagger, that's what was what has been missing in this city. Well, you inspired me.

brush

(54,081 posts)
176. Again, the OP made up a quote and attributed it to Adams.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 03:59 PM
Jan 2022

And now you're saying it too. Read you post again. Watch the video again. Nowhere in either does Adams say "we didn't have enough swagger to beat covid."

I'm from the journalism world. One can't pipe a quote. If you attribute a quote to someone, it has to be the exact words in the exact order.

DU, we can do better.

JustAnotherGen

(32,146 posts)
184. Obviously - we can't
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 04:48 PM
Jan 2022

And when the MF45 dies - I'm going to bring this post up. When people say - 'we are better than that' - I'm going to point out -

Nope - YOU are.

But I'm not. And I mean it, so there.

Two posts of the same type from a person - beginning of a pattern? We'll see . . .

I'm going to start doing regular original OPs on him. He's my kind of man. A god damn man. "You ain't dealing with no boy he's grown assed man - man!"

Sorry - I hear this in my head when I see him!

Evolution of a Man. Maybe my dad's love of Muddy and Howlin' is at play here. There was no 'Beatles' worship by my parents - it was all reserved for the Blues - the original rockers. And this man -he's got the 'blues' in his soul.

brush

(54,081 posts)
186. Thank you JAG. It's posters like you who keep me coming back....
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 05:36 PM
Jan 2022

to DU. As for some of the others who seem so obtuse (I just watched "Shawshank Redemption on TCM and that word came up), it fits here but I don't think I need to go further as we seem to be on the same page.

And speaking of the same page, how about Howlin' Wolf's "Smokestack Lightning", all of the songs on BB King's "Live at the Regal" album, Albert King, Muddy Waters, John Lee Hooker, and even some Taj Mahal.

I'm a huge blues fan too. Thanks for the video from the movie.

pnwmom

(109,032 posts)
141. Here's the transcript.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 08:03 AM
Jan 2022
https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/001-22/transcript-mayor-adams-chancellor-banks-deliver-remarks-concourse-village-elementary-school#/0

Mayor: When a Mayor has swagger, the city has swagger. We've allowed people to beat us down so much that all we did was wallow in COVID. It’s we did, and we no longer believed this is a city of swagger. This is a city of resiliency. And all of these messages out there of what is going to happen? What is going to happen? We're going to survive. And your message, your direct comment, your forcefulness matching yours and matching the rest of ours, we're not going to be defined by COVID, by crime, by economy. And you know why? Because we've went through some stuff. All of us, all of us have went through some stuff. So, this is nothing to those who have gone through a lot. We’re going to be here and turn our city around. You inspired me sister. You inspired me.

[Applause]

That’s why I got so much swagger. We need a Mayor of swagger. We need a Council Woman with swagger. We need Assembly Women with swagger. We need a Borough President with swagger. We need a Chancellor with swagger. We need a Police Commissioner with swagger. This is New York. It's a privilege to live in New York, and the leadership should have that swagger, that's what was what has been missing in this city. Well, you inspired me.

3Hotdogs

(12,522 posts)
19. Well, it was him vs. Curtis Sliwa. Now there is a piece of work. I recall, the opening of Sliwa''s
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 02:14 PM
Jan 2022

campaign. He took a mask and proceeded to try to set it on fire to show that he wasn't going to allow New Yorkers to be sheeple. Three or four times, he tries to get the mask to catch fire. Finally, it ignites.... followed by him burning his hand with it.

The campaign launch ended with him putting his hand in an ice bucket.


I laughed my ass off. (That's why my ex says I do everything half-assed).

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
119. :) That's what THIS meaning and use of the word means.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 07:26 AM
Jan 2022

Context is huge in communication, and so is culture. NYers understand because it's an old, evocative term about theirs.

Harker

(14,164 posts)
130. Fair enough.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 07:51 AM
Jan 2022

Context certainly is key, and I'm only just beginning to feel at home in upstate New York, and have never even been to the City.

The subtler connotations of the word that ring out when I hear it, though, are of overbearance and pomposity, which I find either amusing or off-putting, depending on circumstances.

I truly hope he does well for New Yorkers. A great city needs a dynamic mayor.

brush

(54,081 posts)
187. New Yorkers do have swagger. They couldn't survive in that city...
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 05:46 PM
Jan 2022

without some measure of it (been there, done that). As Sinatra sang, "...if you can make it there, you can make it anywhere."

The OP poster did make up a quote and attributed it to Adams. He didn't say "we didn't have enough swagger to beat covid." Ya can't pipe a quote, it has to be the exact words in the exact order.

Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

cadoman

(792 posts)
26. "wallowing" in COVID (a.k.a taking it seriously) is exactly what everyone needs to be doing
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 02:44 PM
Jan 2022

This fucking idiot is going to kill a lot of New Yorkers with that rhetoric, and it figures that he took his mask off to say that.

Put your damn mask on. Get boosted. Social distance. This is going to be going on for a LONG TIME and we still have a metric SHIT TON of unvaccinated, anti-science shitheads running around who caused the rapidly spreading Omicron variant.

Get yourself boosted. Mark your followup booster date on the calendar. Get the flu vaccine (pay extra for the high-dose version to get more antibodies). Get your pets their flu vaccine. Stockpile masks and put them all around your house. Take COVID seriously and your body will reward you.



^- that is my body hugging me, not another human. Practice social distancing people.

Dorian Gray

(13,549 posts)
91. WHAT?
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 09:48 PM
Jan 2022

WHY would you say that? The only thing in common he has with ben carson is that they're both male and both black.

Look, Adams wasn't my choice for mayor... he didn't even make it into my ranking. But the negativity in this thread and the taking things out of context here are frustrating. He's a newly sworn in democratic leader facing a real challenge right now.

He's right. NYers will get past this bullshit. We always do. And he's trying to buck us up because many of us are furious about the state and insecurity that we are feeling. Seinding our kids back to school this week is scary with the numbers we have. We all feel like we are sitting ducks if we haven't gotten this thing yet. I can not plan work meetings, and we went back into lockdown in our house over Christmas break, cancelling plans to see close friends (vaccinated and boosted friends, like we are) because we've all been exposed and considered close contacts to covid positive people.

So, yeah, the man is trying to reassure us we will get past this because we are strong people.

How horrifying.

(Ben CARSON?)

pnwmom

(109,032 posts)
172. Why do people keep saying that? From the Office of the Mayor's transcript:
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 03:50 PM
Jan 2022

https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/001-22/transcript-mayor-adams-chancellor-banks-deliver-remarks-concourse-village-elementary-school#/0

Mayor: When a Mayor has swagger, the city has swagger. We've allowed people to beat us down so much that all we did was wallow in COVID. It’s we did, and we no longer believed this is a city of swagger. This is a city of resiliency. And all of these messages out there of what is going to happen? What is going to happen? We're going to survive. And your message, your direct comment, your forcefulness matching yours and matching the rest of ours, we're not going to be defined by COVID, by crime, by economy. And you know why? Because we've went through some stuff. All of us, all of us have went through some stuff. So, this is nothing to those who have gone through a lot. We’re going to be here and turn our city around. You inspired me sister. You inspired me.

[Applause]

That’s why I got so much swagger. We need a Mayor of swagger. We need a Council Woman with swagger. We need Assembly Women with swagger. We need a Borough President with swagger. We need a Chancellor with swagger. We need a Police Commissioner with swagger. This is New York. It's a privilege to live in New York, and the leadership should have that swagger, that's what was what has been missing in this city. Well, you inspired me.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
177. I guess I will ask AGAIN: where do you see the Mayor saying the sentence attributed to him by
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 04:00 PM
Jan 2022

the quotation marks in the OP?

Answer: NOWHERE.

That's why people keep saying that.

pnwmom

(109,032 posts)
179. That was a reasonable paraphrase but, yes, he should have left off the quotation marks.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 04:02 PM
Jan 2022

It's given people like you the chance to ignore the two full paragraphs of swagger about Covid that gushed out of his mouth.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
180. I do not agree that was a "reasonable paraphrase".. I believe it was the rearrangement of some of
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 04:12 PM
Jan 2022

the words said plus adding a few not said to fit the poster's agenda. Naming the motive for that would involve speculation, so I won't.

I have already called the Mayor's language "inartful", but the man was just sworn in to that difficult job when he used ill-considered terms in his attempt to encourage people.

George II

(67,782 posts)
35. Here's the full THIRTY FOUR MINUTE address (not just 28 sec) Watch it and let us know....
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 03:39 PM
Jan 2022

....if you still think he's a foolish man.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
50. Well LOOK here! Mayor Adams speech in Full Context
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 05:05 PM
Jan 2022

I vote to ban Recount due to their biased, fake news headlines & opinion.

Clearly this qualifies.


Recount sets a low bar for reporting. 👎
Wow.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
54. "The safest place for our children is in a school building" (1:50)
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 05:49 PM
Jan 2022

Care to provide context for that comment, buddy?

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
120. You Seem Confused
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 07:29 AM
Jan 2022

I was pointing out the timestamp, not the length, scooter.

Adam's speech is littered with these cavalier appeals to toxic positivity without acknowledging the crisis that is unfolding


George II

(67,782 posts)
138. No I'm not. And I'm not your "scooter", or your "buddy", or your "sport", or any of the other....
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 07:59 AM
Jan 2022

....disrespectful nicknames you've used to refer to me.

George II

(67,782 posts)
154. What are you talking about? I know you're trying to deflect this discussion to the mayor of Buffalo.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 10:55 AM
Jan 2022

But this is about the mayor of New York City.

For the record though, Byron Brown was a four-term DEMOCRATIC mayor of Buffalo, and at the time he took the oath of office on January 1 he was the DEMOCATIC mayor of Buffalo.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
160. You're the one who first brought up Mayor Brown
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 12:49 PM
Jan 2022

You know, the politician you fully support who created the "Buffalo Party" in August in order to campaign against the real Democratic candidate for mayor?

pnwmom

(109,032 posts)
173. Here are the two full paragraphs from the address, as provided by the Mayor's Office,
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 03:53 PM
Jan 2022

No one should have to sit through a half hour speech to find out what he said. The whole speech can be read in 5.

https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/001-22/transcript-mayor-adams-chancellor-banks-deliver-remarks-concourse-village-elementary-school#/0

Mayor: When a Mayor has swagger, the city has swagger. We've allowed people to beat us down so much that all we did was wallow in COVID. It’s we did, and we no longer believed this is a city of swagger. This is a city of resiliency. And all of these messages out there of what is going to happen? What is going to happen? We're going to survive. And your message, your direct comment, your forcefulness matching yours and matching the rest of ours, we're not going to be defined by COVID, by crime, by economy. And you know why? Because we've went through some stuff. All of us, all of us have went through some stuff. So, this is nothing to those who have gone through a lot. We’re going to be here and turn our city around. You inspired me sister. You inspired me.

[Applause]

That’s why I got so much swagger. We need a Mayor of swagger. We need a Council Woman with swagger. We need Assembly Women with swagger. We need a Borough President with swagger. We need a Chancellor with swagger. We need a Police Commissioner with swagger. This is New York. It's a privilege to live in New York, and the leadership should have that swagger, that's what was what has been missing in this city. Well, you inspired me.

 

Diablo del sol

(424 posts)
39. Question for New Yorkers, Law and Order SVU fans
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 03:47 PM
Jan 2022

They had a character a few years back, a deputy chief who was kind of a weenie.

Was the character modeled after Adams?

Sympthsical

(9,220 posts)
43. It's a "We're going to beat this" speech
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 03:53 PM
Jan 2022

What are these reactions . . .

I like the "Doesn't this black guy reminds you of another black guy?" reply.

This place sometimes.

brush

(54,081 posts)
66. Exactly. Not-so-subtle racism pops up here sometimes.
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 07:26 PM
Jan 2022

It's all over this thread and is very disappointing.

Response to Sympthsical (Reply #43)

George II

(67,782 posts)
47. Where did he say "You see, the problem is that you didn't have enough swagger to defeat covid."?
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 04:06 PM
Jan 2022

It's not in even in the text of the tweet that contains that short video.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
51. He never said that. Are we allowed to do that now...
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 05:08 PM
Jan 2022

... It's okay to post made-up shit and lies about Democrats that we don't like?

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
49. The Recount invented a line from Adam's speech & ran it as a headline
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 05:00 PM
Jan 2022

Shitty journalism ya got there, Recount

Out of context, with a personal opinion to emphasize the lifted line.

RW media's got nothin over The Recount!
Did Axel Springer buy The Recount too?

This is exactly the shitty thing The Enquirer used to do.
Shitty low balling style of messaging ya got there Recount!

They carefully selected one line, out of context & ran it as a headline.

Sleezy propaganda journalism.

"We will tell you how to think"

~propaganda ops mastermind, joseph goebbels, on media as a propaganda messaging tool.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
147. Falsely quoting someone is a shitty and DISHONEST thing to do...
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 09:05 AM
Jan 2022

... it's disappointing to see that being done to Democrats on this site.

NYC Liberal

(20,142 posts)
53. He did not say "we didn't have enough swagger to defeat covid"
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 05:45 PM
Jan 2022

He basically said COVID has killed our spirits and we've lost hope, optimism, etc. and that we shouldn't let it do that.

Mayor: When a Mayor has swagger, the city has swagger. We've allowed people to beat us down so much that all we did was wallow in COVID. It’s we did, and we no longer believed this is a city of swagger. This is a city of resiliency. And all of these messages out there of what is going to happen? What is going to happen? We're going to survive. And your message, your direct comment, your forcefulness matching yours and matching the rest of ours, we're not going to be defined by COVID, by crime, by economy. And you know why? Because we've went through some stuff. All of us, all of us have went through some stuff. So, this is nothing to those who have gone through a lot. We’re going to be here and turn our city around. You inspired me sister. You inspired me.

[Applause]

That’s why I got so much swagger. We need a Mayor of swagger. We need a Council Woman with swagger. We need Assembly Women with swagger. We need a Borough President with swagger. We need a Chancellor with swagger. We need a Police Commissioner with swagger. This is New York. It's a privilege to live in New York, and the leadership should have that swagger, that's what was what has been missing in this city. Well, you inspired me.


https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/001-22/transcript-mayor-adams-chancellor-banks-deliver-remarks-concourse-village-elementary-school
 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
57. "We've allowed people to beat us down so much that all we did was wallow in COVID."
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 06:32 PM
Jan 2022

Who are these "people" and what does "wallow in COVID" mean?

George II

(67,782 posts)
62. He's correct, especially in the context and COMPLETE thought he was presenting, both before....
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 07:05 PM
Jan 2022

....and after that 28 seconds.

He was upbeat and positive, and everyone is trying to put a negative spin on it.

Overall, the entire 34 minute address, was encouraging and positive.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
64. That thinking is delusional
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 07:11 PM
Jan 2022
Pediatric hospitalizations up 395% in NYC amid COVID-19 surge

No one can truthfully say that line considering these trends. Also, this will make schools into super-spreader centers

George II

(67,782 posts)
67. Yes, "up" 395% - from an infinitesimally low 22 to 109. When you're starting off with a very low...
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 07:28 PM
Jan 2022

...base number, percentage-wise it's not difficult to show a large PERCENT increase.

Inasmuch as there are 1.7 MILLION children in NYC, although even one hospitalization is not good, an increase from 22 to 109 is very very very low.

Using the percentage frame of reference, hospitalizations went from 0.00001283% to 0.006355400%.

Adams has been in office only two and a half days, already he's being trashed.

Didn't you say this earlier today?

https://democraticunderground.com/100216207150#post7

7. And Congratulations, DU, for supporting Democrats


And this?

https://democraticunderground.com/100216207150#post8

8. But remember, support Democrats!

This election exposes that slogan for the lie that it is.









 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
71. Covid deaths were very low, until they weren't
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 07:41 PM
Jan 2022

And as I recall, Mayor Brown formed the "Buffalo Party"

On Edit: Imagine if 109 kids were shot over a week. Then maybe people would take it seriously.

George II

(67,782 posts)
76. People are taking it seriously, that's why they keep statistics and follow trends. But suddenly.....
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 07:50 PM
Jan 2022

....your "395% increase" becomes, in reality, an increase from 0.001283% to 0.0063554%

Quite a change in perspective.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
78. You'd be singing a different tune if it were 109 kids who were shot
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 08:03 PM
Jan 2022

And the disease will not be isolated to schools. The kids will spread them to homes and everywhere else.

Also, congratulations to the "Buffalo Party" mayor.

mathematic

(1,443 posts)
158. He's salty a literal socialist lost to the democratic mayor in the general election in buffalo
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 12:38 PM
Jan 2022

The democratic mayor Byron Brown lost the dem primary to democratic socialist India Walton. Brown thought this was pretty ridiculous and decided to run in the general. He did not appear on the ballot and won as a write-in candidate. Brown is still a democrat.

That's right, India Walton's politics were so unpopular that she lost an election where she was the only person on the ballot. She lost 59% to 40%.

lapucelle

(18,427 posts)
86. This is a different mayor. Eric Adams is the mayor of NYC.
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 09:19 PM
Jan 2022

Byron Brown is the mayor of Buffalo. Eric Adams is the mayor of NYC.

lapucelle

(18,427 posts)
90. Yes...and? Eric Adams is the mayor of NYC. This thread is about Eric Adams.
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 09:44 PM
Jan 2022

You congratulated the "Buffalo Party" mayor. Eric Adams is a Democrat.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The post you were replying to:



-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216207298#post78

brush

(54,081 posts)
72. Not-so-subtle racism is all over this thread. He didn't say that.
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 07:47 PM
Jan 2022

Did these bashers even watch the video? The OP posted a lie.

And the bashers of a public Demcratic figure, a TOC violation, immediately ran with the lie and re-enforced it with their comments.

This is very disappointing. I've alerted twice that this OP should be taken down as it's headline is a lie.

George II

(67,782 posts)
79. I thought that myself but was hesitant to bring it up. He's being "Obama-ed", if anyone remembers...
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 08:04 PM
Jan 2022

...how President Obama was treated almost from before he took his hand off the Bible on January 20, 2009.

By the end of January he was being pilloried for not fulfilling his campaign promises.

brush

(54,081 posts)
81. Yes. I remember. Pres. Obama got a couple of weeks, Adams...
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 08:10 PM
Jan 2022

is being bashed after a couple of days.

Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

George II

(67,782 posts)
80. Two and a half days into his term, why do you say that? I actually think he's going to be....
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 08:07 PM
Jan 2022

....a very very good mayor.

He'll be tough but fair. New Yorkers aren't used to tough mayors.

JustAnotherGen

(32,146 posts)
97. GSD
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 10:51 PM
Jan 2022

Get Stuff Done.

I hope he's very successful.

PS - he looks nothing like Ben Carson. He acts nothing like him. And - I'm willing to bet he could care less what a bunch of folks at DU think about him. If they think they can do better - then they should run against him next time.

JustAnotherGen

(32,146 posts)
100. It's a wonderful start
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 11:20 PM
Jan 2022

More of this. More traffic cops
https://news.yahoo.com/nyc-mayor-eric-adams-calls-193117731.html

Eric Adams is the black cop who intervened when white cops were beating him while in custody. He said that cop had swagger and intrigued him. That's what lead to him being a traffic cop.

I grew up with a strong black father. He was a cool cat, former military officer with swagger. Eric Adams is very relatable to me. He's my dad, my uncles, in particular the one who was the first Patrol Trooper for the NY State Police. I'm the "u" word too.

And I hope that's offensive. I want more black Americans to own our citizenship, power, and get accused of being the *u* word.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
99. :) Probably not. Buck up. I can't think of a job with more different things
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 11:05 PM
Jan 2022

to be good or bad at, and everything in between, as well as many different ways to be good, etc. Every action has regrettable tradeoffs, not just benefits. Plus, many situations require much the same responses regardless of ideology.

Even that creep Giuliani, already corrupt, couldn't be terrible at everything while he was mayor, and wasn't. That was before he went into his bizarre death spiral of course.

betsuni

(25,938 posts)
88. Guess it's a trend to incorrectly use quotes to misrepresent what Democrats say.
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 09:24 PM
Jan 2022

And of course the old rule to always assume bad intentions of Democrats, never give them the benefit of the doubt, and when it's pointed out the assumptions are incorrect, complain about echo chambers, cheerleaders, personality cults and so on.

After years of the same people going nuts if a politician they liked says "I like dogs, not cats" and it's paraphrased as so-and-so doesn't care for cats: (THAT'S NOT WHAT SHE MEANT!) and linking the whole quote over and over as if the meaning is different if you don't use the literal same words.

ecstatic

(32,843 posts)
103. lol. He might be right though
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 11:54 PM
Jan 2022

We have wallowed in covid for 2 years.

That said, it's WAY too soon to be talking like that... unless he agrees with Bill Gates and thinks the pandemic will run its course by the end of March.

pnwmom

(109,032 posts)
109. What the word means and who it reminds us of. Haven't we had enough boasting for a lifetime?
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 05:22 AM
Jan 2022


From Merriam Webster:

Definition of swagger (Entry 1 of 3)
intransitive verb

1: to conduct oneself in an arrogant or superciliously pompous manner
especially : to walk with an air of overbearing self-confidence

2: BOAST, BRAG


Definition of swagger (Entry 2 of 3)

1a: an arrogantly self-confident way of walking : an act or instance of swaggering
b: arrogant or conceitedly self-assured behavior
c: ostentatious display or bravado
2: bold or brash self-confidence

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/swagger

pnwmom

(109,032 posts)
121. You're using an odd definition of swagger. Did you read the one from the dictionary?
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 07:33 AM
Jan 2022

It isn't about being confident. It's about being obnoxiously boastful, like Trump.

pnwmom

(109,032 posts)
124. So you disagree with the Merriam Webster definition?
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 07:38 AM
Jan 2022

Most people agree with it. So we're not impressed by the Mayor's boast.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
113. Apparently that HE said it? NYC is FAMOUS for its swagger.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 05:57 AM
Jan 2022

I've been looking forward to visiting again, but I just realized that's a big part of what I go for. To walk bustling, confident, self important streets -- and catch a little.

betsuni

(25,938 posts)
114. First time I visited NYC in my early twenties I was inspired by the swagger.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 06:11 AM
Jan 2022

I learned from the women how to walk very quickly and not pay attention to anyone. Swagger!

pnwmom

(109,032 posts)
125. That's the opposite of swagger.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 07:40 AM
Jan 2022

Women walk very quickly and without paying attention to anyone so they don't get harassed on the streets. (I used to visit NYC a lot. I remember.)

That's not swagger.

pnwmom

(109,032 posts)
129. Link, please. I'd like to see any dictionary definition that defines swagger that way.Here's another
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 07:49 AM
Jan 2022

from Dictionary.com

swagger
[ swag-er ]SHOW IPA

verb (used without object)
to walk or strut with a defiant or insolent air.
to boast or brag noisily.

verb (used with object)
to bring, drive, force, etc., by blustering.
noun
swaggering manner, conduct, or walk; ostentatious display of arrogance and conceit.

pnwmom

(109,032 posts)
135. It's not a dictionary.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 07:55 AM
Jan 2022

But here are a bunch of synonyms in another Thesaurus. None of them are positive, unless you like braggarts.

https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/swagger


pnwmom

(109,032 posts)
122. Walking bustling, confident streets is not "swagger."
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 07:35 AM
Jan 2022

Trump is swagger, personified. Do you think most people like that?


From Merriam Webster:

Definition of swagger (Entry 1 of 3)
intransitive verb

1: to conduct oneself in an arrogant or superciliously pompous manner
especially : to walk with an air of overbearing self-confidence

2: BOAST, BRAG


Definition of swagger (Entry 2 of 3)

1a: an arrogantly self-confident way of walking : an act or instance of swaggering
b: arrogant or conceitedly self-assured behavior
c: ostentatious display or bravado
2: bold or brash self-confidence

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/swagger

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
142. :) If you were NYmom you'd know what it meant about you.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 08:03 AM
Jan 2022

Speaking of trumpism, we really should all take a breath and reboot as necessary.

So what if DSA types wanted NY to elect someone else and NY chose this Democrat instead? Trumpism's viciously stupid "us good/you die" attack dog mentality means they have to be terrible, horrible, no good, very bad citizens. But that's them.

Time to wish the best for NYC and thus for all of us.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
182. I am a former NYer and I totally agree with you.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 04:37 PM
Jan 2022

I do not like the word "swagger" to describe us. We are not arrogant or conceited. Or ostentatious. That would be Trump and people like him.

George II

(67,782 posts)
133. New Yorkers HAVE "swagger", and a way of bustling around like you say. I remember when....
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 07:53 AM
Jan 2022

....I first moved up to Connecticut for a job, one of my co-workers actually commented on something like that to another.

"The way he walks, he can move quickly through a crowd and not touch a single person!"

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
108. His main idea may have been good
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 05:15 AM
Jan 2022

But saying nyc wallowed in covid etc. and we are going to survive.. Imo it’s disrespectful to those who didn’t survive and those who lost their loved ones. I could care less about swagger, just put policies in place that will save lives please instead of following the bottom line of back to school and work etc. And trying to pretend this is over etc.

George II

(67,782 posts)
115. Did you watch the entire video, or at least what he said before...
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 06:53 AM
Jan 2022

...and after that very short excerpt? That was NOT what he said and most certainly not the intent of his comments.

The full video has been posted twice here. It's more than 34 minutes, a far cry from the mere 28 seconds presented in the OP, and he never said the "quote" in the subject line.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
132. What he said in that excerpt, I am not happy with it
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 07:52 AM
Jan 2022

I will watch the rest but it likely won’t change that. A need for swag is not a concern anyone should have imo let alone the mayor of nyc. He actually did say word for word in the first part of the video, the exact words in the tweet.

JustAnotherGen

(32,146 posts)
137. tenderfoot
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 07:58 AM
Jan 2022

You do realize this op was inaccurate - don't you?

So can we put it where the goats can get it?

What information was shared that will encourage people to pick up the phone and call their House Rep and Senators to pass HR 1 and HR 4?

tenderfoot

(8,446 posts)
157. He said what he said and a lot of people were put off by it.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 12:13 PM
Jan 2022

That the recount chose to use his swagger comment is not my problem.





JustAnotherGen

(32,146 posts)
162. Here's what he said
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 01:23 PM
Jan 2022
Mayor: When a Mayor has swagger, the city has swagger. We've allowed people to beat us down so much that all we did was wallow in COVID. It’s we did, and we no longer believed this is a city of swagger. This is a city of resiliency. And all of these messages out there of what is going to happen? What is going to happen? We're going to survive. And your message, your direct comment, your forcefulness matching yours and matching the rest of ours, we're not going to be defined by COVID, by crime, by economy. And you know why? Because we've went through some stuff. All of us, all of us have went through some stuff. So, this is nothing to those who have gone through a lot. We’re going to be here and turn our city around. You inspired me sister. You inspired me.


That’s why I got so much swagger. We need a Mayor of swagger. We need a Council Woman with swagger. We need Assembly Women with swagger. We need a Borough President with swagger. We need a Chancellor with swagger. We need a Police Commissioner with swagger. This is New York. It's a privilege to live in New York, and the leadership should have that swagger, that's what was what has been missing in this city. Well, you inspired me.

https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/001-22/transcript-mayor-adams-chancellor-banks-deliver-remarks-concourse-village-elementary-school#/0

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
155. I do not understand why New Yorkers voted for this man
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 11:03 AM
Jan 2022

Were they that desperate? Were the other options that bad? I’m assuming it is because he was in law enforcement. Smh I don’t know much about him but I have not been impressed with his interviews on tv.

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marie999

(3,334 posts)
161. Who is wallowing in Covid? I'm not. Nobody I know is. I don't think many people in DU are.
Tue Jan 4, 2022, 01:09 PM
Jan 2022

Keeping safe is not wallowing. To me, his words were more of a putdown on the people of New York City.

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