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(23,968 posts)malaise
(269,187 posts)A big wet mess with one billion dollars worth of damage???
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)malaise
(269,187 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)And I'm scheduled to work a 12 hour shift out in the elements. I'll only have my car to take shelter for most of the time. Hope I won't get tree branches or power lines down on my vehicle :/
malaise
(269,187 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)malaise
(269,187 posts)with a Tropical Storm Watch for Miami Dade.
My Miami sis and I used to joke that a storm may be heading for Florida or Jamaica but never both - this climate change is serious - the water is sooooooooo hot.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)That's not good at all.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)malaise
(269,187 posts)Let those who deny climate change supersize that.
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LisaL
(44,974 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)I swear I will NEVER understand people like you. I think I'll be forever grateful for that.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,543 posts)That thing may impact us here in Philly since it IS very wide. Some of the early tracks have it doing a bullseye here although I doubt that it will but we'll see!
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT18/refresh/AL1812W5_NL_sm2+gif/203625W5_NL_sm.gif
malaise
(269,187 posts)What an end to this year's hurricane season - hope it becomes a fish storm.
CrispyQ
(36,527 posts)there are cyclones in the Pacific ocean that never die. They hit land, then spin back into the ocean & regain steam & eventually hit land again. Over & over.
I thought it was a fascinating concept & now I wonder when it will actually happen.
malaise
(269,187 posts)If there are other life forms on other planets, they must be glad to be light years away from us
spanone
(135,885 posts)malaise
(269,187 posts)Hurricane Sandy has spread her tentacles across the Atlantic, the Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico - this system is massive.
It's affecting Puerto Rico, Jamaica, Haiti, Cuba, DR the Virgin islands, the Bahamas and Florida. That's hard to process.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)We had some huge ones up here earlier this fall, as well. Sitting under a big cold high right now for a change of pace.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Pretty heavy rain bands passing thru at the moment.
malaise
(269,187 posts)It's still raining in Kingston.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)malaise
(269,187 posts)a little after noon today. About 45% of the island is still without power.
malaise
(269,187 posts)Truth is that rain and rough seas should make lifeguards run everyone out of the water this weekend.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)For a while. Now its NW.
malaise
(269,187 posts)You may get a few outer bands - moving at 17mph - hasn't slowed down yet.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)malaise
(269,187 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Besides we might lose power, I better eat it now lol
malaise
(269,187 posts)Hahahaha - enjoy
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)malaise
(269,187 posts)but enjoy the ice cream
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)the predictions, gosh darn it, those cute scientists and their fancy math!
malaise
(269,187 posts)I'll take them over those dumb ReTHUGs every day of the week
kurt_cagle
(534 posts)These storms have pressures in the neighborhood of 950 mb, which is typical of a cat 2 or 3 storm, but have a large areal extent and winds more typical of a Cat 1 storm. The reason for this is simple - they are picking up warmer water vapor at higher air temperatures and holding it for longer. The higher vapor density is indicative of greater energy in the system, and also means that these storms move slowly, pack more of a wallop at lower wind speeds and last for longer.
Re: David Brin's storms. Those may come to pass as well. The Jet Stream is weakening because the gradient between Arctic and temperate temperatures is diminishing. This reduces the speed at which weather moves, and makes possible the buildup of large stable high pressure domes. One consequence of this is that big mid-oceanic storms became semi-permanent. Jupiter's Great Red Spot is an example of just such a storm.
malaise
(269,187 posts)in your first paragraph
Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)malaise
(269,187 posts)This is one huge system
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)And so far is just really windy. They're not anticipating TS winds inland. We managed to dodge it, but now I'm worried about our neighbours up north. Hopefully they have enough time to prepare.
EnviroBat
(5,290 posts)But right here in central Ohio, we were blasted by the remnants of Hurricane Ike back in September of 2008. I saw trees snap and fall over crashing to the ground and smashing everything under them. I saw the neighbors roof torn off and tossed into the back yard like some giant card table. We are going to get hit with this one. I'm quite sure of it. I am prepared with a huge generator, and provisions. We tend to lose power here even in the event of a simple summer storm. The point is, these storms are getting bigger and more intense. Never in my 45 years have I seen weather like this. A cloudy, rainy day can bring tornado-like conditions more often than not. Lightning strikes more dangerous and frequent than ever. Anyone who denies global warming deserves a broken jaw at this point. We have caused this. The melting of arctic ice has changes the ocean currents providing more warm water resulting in stronger, more intense storms. Anyone of even moderate intelligence can see this unfolding right in front of us.
malaise
(269,187 posts)I remember Ike in Ohio - that was shocking to me
kentauros
(29,414 posts)And it was "only" a Cat-2 storm. It did more damage locally than the Cat-3 storm Hurricane Alicia in 1983. Due to what we were going through after Ike, I'm afraid I wasn't too aware of its effects further up the line. But I'm very glad to see you aren't dismissing this current storm and are prepared. I hope your experience gets through to more people here
Stay safe, and I hope it peters out or turns away from the coast
EnviroBat
(5,290 posts)I was out riding on my Harley, and the sun was shining, and by all intents and purposes it was a beautiful day. Then the wind started. I was sitting at a red light when a gust of wind nearly blew me over! I quickly rode home, and got parked in the garage. An hour later it was complete bedlam outside. Trees whipping, power out, the house was creaking against the storm. I thought I was going to lose my roof. That was not as powerful a hurricane as this current one is turning out to be. We are stocking up on everything tonight. I hope this isn't as bad as my "Spidey Sense" is telling me...
kentauros
(29,414 posts)Storms are scary shit even when you know they're coming. Being prepared is always better than blowing it off, so to speak. It sounds like you'll do fine no matter what happens
I just wish there was some way for those that are dismissing this storm to personally experience the worst of it without it doing anything to those of you that are taking it seriously. I know, y'all can ship them down to the Gulf Coast during the months of August and September next year
Glad you got home Stay safe
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)EnviroBat
(5,290 posts)ananda
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randome
(34,845 posts)That's almost Chris Christie-sized.
and just as breathless
sofia14x
(7 posts)this hurryicane comea aftere a along time
these are going biggerand biiger
i m also shocked when i just this
is that really??
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)You were saying?
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Odin2005
(53,521 posts)In meteorology jargon it's called baroclinic support. The line of convention on the NW part of the storm is turning into a kind of warm front.
My God, she is enourmous!
malaise
(269,187 posts)DR and Puerto Rico in the Caribbean sea, about to hit the Bahamas in the Atlantic and there were tropical storm warnings for Florida so she was still in the Caribbean, affecting the Atlantic and bits of her were in the Gulf og Mexico - she is beyond a plus-size hurricane and yes now she is being pumped up by that system.
Thanks for that new concept 'baroclinic support' - never heard of it before.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)...despite wind shear and sucking in a lot of dry air south of her. She's not fully tropical, anymore. She's turning into a Nor'easter, like Hurricane Grace, the "Perfect Storm", did in 1991.
malaise
(269,187 posts)Add to that snow and Noreaster characteristics and KABOOM - this is trouble
NotThisTime
(3,657 posts)limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)I've heard a couple conflicting things, either it was the biggest or second biggest since record-keeping began.
Hurricane Sandy is already setting records
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2012/1028/Hurricane-Sandy-is-already-setting-records
malaise
(269,187 posts)If all the experts are worried we should be worried