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WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 11:20 AM Jan 2012

DU's H20 Man will begin a hunger strike on Monday to protest fracking. This is his story.



Natural gas wells owned by Cabot Oil and Gas in Dimock, Pennsylvania, in December 2009. (Photo: Fred R. Conrad / The New York Times)

In the Clearing Stands a Boxer: One Man's Fight Against Fracking
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Op-Ed

Friday 13 January 2012

There is a natural prejudice against fasting as part of a political struggle. It is considered a vulgar interpolation in politics by the ordinary politician, though it has always been resorted to by prisoners. My fast should not be considered a political move in any sense of the term. It is obedience to the peremptory call of conscience and duty. It comes out of felt agony.

- Mahatma Gandhi, January 1948


What can the "little person" do?

We live in a country dominated by Citizens United, by "super-PAC's," by corporate wealth and power of such vast depth and breadth that to even contemplate a challenge against such powers is paralyzing. They are watching, they are listening, and if you step on the wrong set of toes, as the song goes, "The Man come and take you away."

It is all well and good to be inspired by the words of men like Mario Savio, who said, "There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part. You can't even passively take part! And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus and you've got to make it stop!"

All well and good, yes...but when the moment arrives to actually lay oneself upon the gears and wheels, so many of us become daunted, diminished, or simply too afraid to act.

What can the "little person" do against such might?

Recently, however, an example of courage was gifted to us all. It began in New York City with "Occupy Wall Street," and spread like wildfire across the nation. Thousands upon thousands of people laid themselves upon those gears and wheels and said, simply, No." For their trouble, they were greeted with the truncheon, the chemical spray, the taser, the punch, the kick, imprisonment, and the hard truth of state-sanctioned violence. The Occupy struggle continues, but the machine opposed by that movement still grinds on.

What can the "little person" do?

One man is about to give his answer.

I was privileged, many years ago, to become friends with a man named Patrick R. McElligott. He was once a boxer, and we first bonded over the story of the day I met Muhammad Ali. Over the years, our friendship grew as we endured, and struggled against, the mayhem and insanity of the George W. Bush administration.

Last week, I received a note from him letting me know that, on Martin Luther King, Jr. Day, he would be undertaking a hunger strike directed against New York State officials who are bound and determined to make the Southern Tier of the state a showcase for the effectiveness of a process called Induced Hydraulic Fracturing, or "fracking." The process, aimed at releasing buried energy sources like natural gas or petroleum, is accomplished by blasting high-pressure water and other chemicals into the ground. The industries behind fracking will tell you that the process is perfectly safe and not in need of much regulation, but Patrick McElligott knows better.

(snip)

Mr. McElligott made many attempts to engage local political officials, on both sides of the aisle, in a dialogue on the potential hazards of this process. He was uniformly rebuffed. He wrote them repeatedly to no avail, and likewise wrote to his neighbors to explain the dangers of fracking.

Finally, when all other avenues had been exhausted, Mr. McElligott made his decision. He would lay himself upon the gears and the wheels, even as it put him in great personal peril.

On Monday, Mr. McElligott will begin his hunger strike. Earlier this week, I spoke at length with this "little man," my friend, so he could explain his motivations and his intentions.

The rest: http://www.truth-out.org/clearing-stands-boxer-one-mans-fight-against-fracking/1326401455
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DU's H20 Man will begin a hunger strike on Monday to protest fracking. This is his story. (Original Post) WilliamPitt Jan 2012 OP
I wish him well dipsydoodle Jan 2012 #1
Thank you H2O Man. He does this for the benefit of us all -especially those that don't understand cyberpj Jan 2012 #103
I really wish he'd reconsider.. trumad Jan 2012 #2
I wish him well. It is a very noble cause. Hopefully it will inspire others to take action. think Jan 2012 #16
+1 Octafish Jan 2012 #27
+1 n/m Morning Dew Jan 2012 #44
Yes it does make an old mans eyes water madokie Jan 2012 #46
+1 redqueen Jan 2012 #106
this was my first thought as well varelse Jan 2012 #114
I so agree with you, trumad juajen Jan 2012 #135
thanks for the article, WP bigtree Jan 2012 #3
Standing with H2O Man randr Jan 2012 #4
Support for H2O Man Tsiyu Jan 2012 #5
I respect his courage; his dedication; his position on this critical issue. hlthe2b Jan 2012 #6
+1 for H20 Mopar151 Jan 2012 #60
A courageous and selfless man... Spazito Jan 2012 #7
Go Waterman! Thanks Will! n/t Mnemosyne Jan 2012 #8
Big shout out for H2O Man. Zorra Jan 2012 #9
it's sad it has to come to such a thing to get our 'leaders' to do the right thing. xchrom Jan 2012 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author WilliamPitt Jan 2012 #15
I hope we will receive regular updates on his status. Laurian Jan 2012 #11
Thanks for this outstanding article, Will, and H20 Man, please babylonsister Jan 2012 #12
Standing with the H2O man era veteran Jan 2012 #13
Thanks for the article Will and please relay to H2O Man PA Democrat Jan 2012 #14
Waterman Marrah_G Jan 2012 #17
KNR...our thoughts, prayers, vibes are with him... joeybee12 Jan 2012 #18
Go H2O! byronius Jan 2012 #19
Thank you for this - can we start a Facebook group jsmirman Jan 2012 #20
No plans WilliamPitt Jan 2012 #21
It's been bookmarked already - and jsmirman Jan 2012 #28
I think he will be very pleased. WilliamPitt Jan 2012 #30
That would be great jsmirman Jan 2012 #39
Go to town WilliamPitt Jan 2012 #49
I will then, although I didn't want to squeeze you out jsmirman Jan 2012 #62
Run with it. WilliamPitt Jan 2012 #64
Ok, will do jsmirman Jan 2012 #67
Not exactly what I expected him to do. Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #22
He just got interviewed by a TV crew, so... WilliamPitt Jan 2012 #31
Btw jsmirman Jan 2012 #41
Social Media is the way to go. The NYT doesn't have the reach of the social media or sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #88
These are the steps he says we can take to support him: EFerrari Jan 2012 #23
Thank you for this practical information -- Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2012 #32
Thank you for posting. ellisonz Jan 2012 #130
k&r HappyMe Jan 2012 #24
Man oh man hootinholler Jan 2012 #25
What courage. annabanana Jan 2012 #26
Kudos to H2O Man for his courage. And prayers for his health. highplainsdem Jan 2012 #29
I hope his actions call attention to the issue without killing him. MADem Jan 2012 #33
"I wish a bunch of people in his state would stage some focused protests." WilliamPitt Jan 2012 #34
Focused protests are a problem? I'd say a hunger strike is VERY focused? MADem Jan 2012 #36
We are organizing in a number of towns and meeting with Town Boards BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2012 #57
Good for you. This is such an important issue. MADem Jan 2012 #59
Most of the little towns have passed moratoriums BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2012 #66
You have to wonder about the intelligence of people like that. MADem Jan 2012 #74
that's me, with Shrimpy BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2012 #80
What a stunner you are! MADem Jan 2012 #92
Awwwww, shucks! BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2012 #122
I hope you get your moratorium as well. It's a start, anyway. MADem Jan 2012 #124
When will he end the hunger strike? MinervaX Jan 2012 #35
A dialogue with public officials on the issue WilliamPitt Jan 2012 #51
to meet with Governor Cuomo hfojvt Jan 2012 #53
In the words of JFK, one person can try hfojvt Jan 2012 #37
Thanks for this malaise Jan 2012 #38
Best of luck, H2O Man PRETZEL Jan 2012 #40
big ups to Waterman! frylock Jan 2012 #42
Will, I will speak to my boss & see if there's any way we can cover the story librechik Jan 2012 #43
Keep me posted WilliamPitt Jan 2012 #52
Lots of love and prayers for H20 Man! G_j Jan 2012 #45
Talk about having the courage of one's convictions... Little Star Jan 2012 #47
With all my heart, Waterman Solly Mack Jan 2012 #48
K&R raouldukelives Jan 2012 #50
Best of luck, H2O Man wakemewhenitsover Jan 2012 #54
Patrick McElligott? I thought Chief Paul Waterman is H2Oman? BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2012 #55
I believe Waterman is his mentor. WilliamPitt Jan 2012 #56
yes I saw that..... BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2012 #65
McElligot is H20 Man WilliamPitt Jan 2012 #68
ah, I see. Thanks for clarification. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2012 #79
Thanks for clarifying that, and good luck to him. nt bananas Jan 2012 #93
Best wishes, H2OMan, with deep respect bleever Jan 2012 #58
Be safe, H2O Man -- Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2012 #61
This is an excellent interview, William, kudos to H2OMan and peace to his family. Uncle Joe Jan 2012 #63
One of my all time favorite DUers, I am worried about his health, but not at all surprised that he sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #69
Good luck to you Pat. MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #70
I hope this action brings about the desired outcome. Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #71
good luck to him. DesertFlower Jan 2012 #72
The evidence on this is not conclusive badtoworse Jan 2012 #73
And I suspect most of us here would suggest blaze Jan 2012 #75
I think he has educated himself. He wrote enough on DU sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #85
You'll get a fine old education if you watch that GASLAND documentary. Flaming water, anyone? NT MADem Jan 2012 #123
I trust documented scientific studies... badtoworse Jan 2012 #125
Oh, take a risk--you just might learn something. nt MADem Jan 2012 #126
As opposed to anonymous internet posters WilliamPitt Jan 2012 #127
Well, his moniker is a tad unusual, Will. NT juajen Jan 2012 #136
I posted links to both studies. badtoworse Jan 2012 #143
You never told me your name. WilliamPitt Jan 2012 #145
That's irrelevant badtoworse Jan 2012 #151
Then read the linked interview with H2OMan in which he refers to a very recent study sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #146
Can you provide a link? badtoworse Jan 2012 #152
If you click the link in the OP, at the bottom of the text, and read the interview, the study sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #157
I did a little searching and found that the study in question is the Duke Study, which I've read. badtoworse Jan 2012 #159
I'll be watching closely and spreading the word. Best of luck H20 man. pa28 Jan 2012 #76
Thanks for keeping us informed Will zeemike Jan 2012 #77
I wish the best of luck to my friend, the Waterman. n/t ellisonz Jan 2012 #78
standing with the man. mopinko Jan 2012 #81
That explains why I have missed H2Oman - Mira Jan 2012 #82
Good luck in establishing a dialogue, a very reasonable request grantcart Jan 2012 #83
What's the end game here?... SidDithers Jan 2012 #84
I believe that as stated above... ellisonz Jan 2012 #131
to H2O Man handmade34 Jan 2012 #86
Courageous action by H2O and well-written article by you, Will suffragette Jan 2012 #87
K & R! Wind Dancer Jan 2012 #89
Yes, but can't someone younger and healthier do it? I don't want this beloved DU man to hurt in juajen Jan 2012 #137
Recommended. mmonk Jan 2012 #90
Great OP/thread! H2O Man Jan 2012 #91
The man himself WilliamPitt Jan 2012 #100
You are a Great American jsmirman Jan 2012 #108
Good luck, my friend. stevedeshazer Jan 2012 #112
Good luck H2O Man. immoderate Jan 2012 #119
Best of luck. ellisonz Jan 2012 #132
Hey,Waterman, I have this huge crush on you. You really don't want to upset me. What can I do? juajen Jan 2012 #138
Wow. Thanks to the both of you! Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 #94
Best wishes and good luck Taverner Jan 2012 #95
For H20 man etherealtruth Jan 2012 #96
In solidarity democrank Jan 2012 #97
Best of luck to H20 Man. City Lights Jan 2012 #98
H20 Man makes a difference every day of his life. This isn't necessary lunatica Jan 2012 #99
I stand support of Pat and this courageous action... Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #101
Here here! Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #102
Take care. Be well. Wilms Jan 2012 #104
Courageous mensch. tpsbmam Jan 2012 #105
Maximum respect to H20 Man! shanti Jan 2012 #107
I recommended the thread YankeyMCC Jan 2012 #109
I respect his decision. Cleita Jan 2012 #110
Yeah, I do too, but I wish he didn't feel compelled to go to this length. calimary Jan 2012 #121
Hunger Strike and a Fast, are as different as night and day, ... CRH Jan 2012 #111
My heart & thoughts are with him. glinda Jan 2012 #113
I've been wondering where he's been, haven't seen him lately. I've got such mixed feelings on this. riderinthestorm Jan 2012 #115
The largest waste of energy in history L. Coyote Jan 2012 #116
kick & recommend for H2OMan spanone Jan 2012 #117
k&r Liberal_in_LA Jan 2012 #118
YOU ROCK, H2O MAN! burrowowl Jan 2012 #120
Thanks H2O Man ! For truly standing up...not like most of us - just merely yak about Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2012 #128
kr Norrin Radd Jan 2012 #129
K&R louslobbs Jan 2012 #133
K&R - bookmarked! JonLP24 Jan 2012 #134
Well, damn! I should have read the whole article. My apologies for this failure. juajen Jan 2012 #139
Weekend kick WilliamPitt Jan 2012 #140
Thanks Will for this story and Patrick,thank you... prairierose Jan 2012 #141
Kick tavalon Jan 2012 #142
I don't know H2O Man but Shankapotomus Jan 2012 #144
People who are on Twitter can click the Twitter button to spread this around, if they wish. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #147
Kicking in case Quantess Jan 2012 #148
I can't believe no one on DU took you up on your offer n/t sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #149
Must be something in the water... ellisonz Jan 2012 #150
kicking with best wishes & trepidation annabanana Jan 2012 #153
My younger son H2O Man Jan 2012 #154
All of my best wishes to you and your family. myrna minx Jan 2012 #160
Love you Waterman malaise Jan 2012 #155
Just checking in.... kentuck Jan 2012 #156
Kicking! juajen Jan 2012 #158
Kick. Any updates? ellisonz Jan 2012 #161
 

cyberpj

(10,794 posts)
103. Thank you H2O Man. He does this for the benefit of us all -especially those that don't understand
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 08:27 PM
Jan 2012

the process and the dangers yet.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
2. I really wish he'd reconsider..
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 11:23 AM
Jan 2012

This last year he has been in bad health... Surgery etc.

I admire what he is doing but I don't want to see him hurt himself by doing this.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
16. I wish him well. It is a very noble cause. Hopefully it will inspire others to take action.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 12:14 PM
Jan 2012

juajen

(8,515 posts)
135. I so agree with you, trumad
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 06:58 AM
Jan 2012

His health is uppermost in my mind. He is such a good man, and I would hate to lose him. Please, please reconsider.

randr

(12,417 posts)
4. Standing with H2O Man
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 11:30 AM
Jan 2012

Out here in Western Colorado we are just begining our fight against the fracting industry. We received notification on the possible lease of 30,000 acres of land in our small mostly organic valley. We have been joined in our fight by many people across our nation.
The struggle against the Koch roaches, as we prefer to call them, is pandemic. They are reaching into every corner of our planet to extract public resources in a most vile manner. They must be stopped at all costs.
I urge all DUers to educate themselves to the issue and support your local efforts with all you have. If you are lucky enough not to live in one of the sacrifice zones find a group that is struggling with this attack and support them.
Thanks Will and Power to the waterman.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
5. Support for H2O Man
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 11:40 AM
Jan 2012

Some men hear what they want to hear and disregard the rest...

H2O Man is demanding that they listen....



hlthe2b

(102,424 posts)
6. I respect his courage; his dedication; his position on this critical issue.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 11:41 AM
Jan 2012

I could not be more proud of a DUer's determination to make a stand. I could not be more overwhelmed by an advocate's selflessness towards this cause.

That said, I fear for H2OMan's health. I can't help but fear for the individual, no matter how important the cause.

Thank you, Will for letting us know. I will do my best to be supportive, though worried. Best wishes, H20Man. You are greatly admired.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
9. Big shout out for H2O Man.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 11:54 AM
Jan 2012

A person with the courage of convictions.

Our country needs many more people like H2O Man.

Mitakuye Oyasin.

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
10. it's sad it has to come to such a thing to get our 'leaders' to do the right thing.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 11:57 AM
Jan 2012

i wish him Strength and Courage in Abundance.

Response to xchrom (Reply #10)

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
11. I hope we will receive regular updates on his status.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 11:59 AM
Jan 2012

I have great respect for H2O Man and have always appreciated his DU posts. Like others, I am concerned for his personal well being in this endeavor and hope that we will receive regular updates on his status. Best of luck and many thanks to H2O Man.

babylonsister

(171,102 posts)
12. Thanks for this outstanding article, Will, and H20 Man, please
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 12:08 PM
Jan 2012

remember how valuable you are to so many people. I/we admire you greatly, and don't want to see you hurt yourself.
I'll be rooting for you!

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
17. Waterman
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 12:16 PM
Jan 2012

Please be careful- make sure you get enough water- we don't want to lose you.

I'll be sending all the positive energy I can your way.

/hug

Marrah

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
20. Thank you for this - can we start a Facebook group
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 12:22 PM
Jan 2012

to help publicize his efforts?

I am humbled by and so grateful for the effort he is undertaking and the sacrifice he is about to make.

His message and his convictions should be spread as widely as possible.

What are your thoughts on using social media to do this? Are there plans already in the works?

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
28. It's been bookmarked already - and
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 12:53 PM
Jan 2012

if you think he'd have no objection, I think I'm going to do this.

I can think of few things that so comprehensively represent the things I think need to be stood up for and the things that people need to stand up against.

If you could confirm that he would be amenable to such a plan, though, that would be great. I wouldn't want to do anything that he felt didn't appropriately fit with his struggle.

(along those lines, facebook is facebook, and there are many issues with all of that, but it still remains a very good way to spread the word among friends and acquaintances who share some of the same concerns and passions.)

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
30. I think he will be very pleased.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 12:59 PM
Jan 2012

If you want to make sure, he will be dropping in on this thread (or starting his own) later today, and you can ask him yourself.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
39. That would be great
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 01:22 PM
Jan 2012

I will be sure to do so, or, if he drops in on this thread, I will look for his reply.

Great article, btw (from an ex-journo).

Speaking of my past life, actually, I do still have a number of contacts in the media. I could try to bring the story to the attention of a variety of people (it's a pretty good story in terms of how media people view these things - compelling subject, timely, frankly, the Hurricane Carter tie-in - I apologize for being so crass, but these are the crass factors that drive their decisions, as you probably already know).

You have framed the story eloquently on your own, of course. If you would like me to include you in any of my efforts to contact the people I know, that can be arranged. I would, obviously, be using your article as the most digestible source material to convey the contours of the story.

Please let me know your thoughts.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
49. Go to town
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 01:40 PM
Jan 2012

I plan on being in touch with Patrick throughout this protest to keep tabs and let people know what's going on. Some of it will be on Truthout, some on my FB page.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
62. I will then, although I didn't want to squeeze you out
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 02:17 PM
Jan 2012

you seem like a talented journalist, and while, clearly, the most important thing is to spread the word as widely as possible, I wouldn't want someone to run with "your story" (of course, this *is* H20 Man's story) if I could also help you at the same time.

I'm going to send you a PM, regardless, to give you the three people, in order, that my instincts say to pass the story along to.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
64. Run with it.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 02:20 PM
Jan 2012

This isn't about me in any way, shape or form. The more notice this story gets, the better.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
67. Ok, will do
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 02:36 PM
Jan 2012

I sent you a PM with my list of choices to reach out to, if I don't hear back from you, I'll go in the order I laid out in the PM.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
22. Not exactly what I expected him to do.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 12:28 PM
Jan 2012

Unless the New York Times gets involved, or something of that nature, I don't think this will have a happy ending.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
31. He just got interviewed by a TV crew, so...
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 12:59 PM
Jan 2012

He'll be here later, you can doom-and-gloom at him personally.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
41. Btw
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 01:24 PM
Jan 2012

speaking of the contacts I mention above, some of them are at the Times.

I think this story is something that they would be very interested in (again, please see above).

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
88. Social Media is the way to go. The NYT doesn't have the reach of the social media or
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 05:34 PM
Jan 2012

the kind of readership that would support this kind of action.

If you want to help, and have a twitter account eg, that will help get the story to a huge number of people in a short amount of time. Also all media can be reached directly on Twitter, which I am going to do. TV and print media also radio. The are all on Twitter.

Keith, Rachel and Cenk Uygar, should be willing to cover this and put it on their Twitter accounts.

Going to do that right now. I love this twitter button, makes this so much easier.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
23. These are the steps he says we can take to support him:
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 12:30 PM
Jan 2012

Well, I think it would be really nice if people would call NYS Senator Tom Libous, and tell him that they think he should talk to the leaders of the grass roots groups that are opposed to hydrofracking. That doesn't mean that he will change his position on fracking. But an elected representative should be willing to listen to people he disagrees with. He really should welcome the opportunity, even if he isn't going to change our positions.

He has offices in Binghamton and Albany. The Binghamton phone numbesr are: 607-773-8771, and 877-854-2687. The Albany number is: 518-455-2677. His e-mail is: senator@senatorlibous.com .

People can also call Governor Andrew Cuomo on this. You do not have to be a New York State resident. His phone number is: 518-474-8390.

Governor Cuomo has appointed his ex-brother-in-law, environmental attorney Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., to an advisory position on hydrofracking in New York State. Robert disappointed the environmental community by initially being pro-fracking, except near the NYC watershed. He's taken a somewhat different position since the summer. Robert has the Governor's ear, and he knows me. It would be good if people called his office at Pace University, and tell his secretary, Mary Beth Postman, to have Robert call Cuomo on this issue. That number is: 914- 422-4343.

What else? Believe in the power of ideas. Have faith in the power of yourself. Act upon your ideas. Take steps to protect the environment, work for social justice. There may well be people who tell you to shut up, and who try to discourage you. Trust yourself. Ordinary people can do extraordinary things.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
130. Thank you for posting.
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 02:09 AM
Jan 2012

I'm bookmarking to call Cuomo and Kennedy on Tuesday when I think I'll have the best chance of getting someone on the line. H20MAN has been a good DU friend and he deserves our efforts in support of his noble action. I'm going to simply state that they ought to hear out the grass roots, and that it is shameful that a local activist of Mr. McElligott believes he has to engage in an action such as this to get the attention of his elected officials.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
25. Man oh man
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 12:45 PM
Jan 2012

He told me he was busy with fracking issues and probably wouldn't be around for a while, but damn.

Solidarity Pat! I stand with Mother Earth and H2O Man.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
33. I hope his actions call attention to the issue without killing him.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 01:05 PM
Jan 2012

As a society, Americans don't always respond real well to hunger strikes. I wish a bunch of people in his state would stage some focused protests. I wish him luck and good health.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
34. "I wish a bunch of people in his state would stage some focused protests."
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 01:10 PM
Jan 2012

They have been. That's the problem.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
57. We are organizing in a number of towns and meeting with Town Boards
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 02:00 PM
Jan 2012

to convince them to pass moratoriums. We are in a time crunch--the gas co.'s want to swing into action in a hurry; they want to get leases signed before people can gather enough info to protect themselves.

www.frackfreegenesee.org

MADem

(135,425 posts)
59. Good for you. This is such an important issue.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 02:10 PM
Jan 2012

It's not like we can "do without" water. It's LIFE. I hope you succeed.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
66. Most of the little towns have passed moratoriums
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 02:36 PM
Jan 2012

Our board seems to be leaning toward doing the same.

Very republican out here---the boondocks, you know. But there are also us, the informed, intelligent liberals.

One of the Town Board members lives across the street from me, is a flaming teapuke nut, the Board member who claims to have gone to PA and seen no problem with fracking.

He went on a long irrational rant at the first board meeting that the group attended--he somehow managed to include Pete Seeger in his argument.

I'm not surprised at him. He ripped me off big time for an excavation job I needed done in a hurry years ago when I first moved out there--and then afterwards (before I realized how shoddy his work was), sent a stream of emails to my boyfriend at that time, as an offer of friendship. They were such topics as pictures of yachts with envious commentary (huh? Why?) and jokes, including the infamous, misogynistic "women/snail trail" joke........

I can NOT STAND the guy!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
74. You have to wonder about the intelligence of people like that.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 03:03 PM
Jan 2012

What, does he think he'll be able to drink coke instead when flames start shooting out of his faucet? You can't fix stupid, but wouldn't it be nice if we could?

Water and air, we really shouldn't be screwing them up. When I was a kid, no one was allergic to anything, except maybe pet dander, ragweed and dust, and all "allergic" meant was "Ahhhhhh-CHOOOOO!" and a runny nose. No epi-pens, no dramatic runs to the hospital. Now, it seems EVERYONE is allergic to something, and I think that all this pollution of our world house might be a contributing factor. It's one thing to work your immune system, another thing entire to beat it to a pulp.

Who is that beautiful woman with the fantastic dog (and what kind of dog is that?) in your sig line? What a brilliant smile!

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
80. that's me, with Shrimpy
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 03:58 PM
Jan 2012




Shrimpy is a Pomeranian...but she's really not a dog. She's a Princess, and a Baby! She weighs 5 pounds.

Anyway, yes, I totally wish we could fix the stupid.....these tea bag jerks...I don't know, it's like they think this is all like rooting for their sports team, not our actual survival. They want to "pound the shit out of 'em", but they don't know the difference between getting whoop-ass at a football game and responsible stewardship. They're callow brutes, as introspective as a wart hog in rutting season.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
92. What a stunner you are!
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 07:00 PM
Jan 2012

The dog is cute, too! Looks very loveable!

Keep fighting the good fight! Maybe someone should get some of that PA water and light it on fire, or send them DVDs of that documentary. Say, do you have public access tv in your neck of the woods? Maybe you could get permission from the GASLAND producers to do a one-time airing of that film, or maybe even a nice, salient chunk of it--worth asking, anyway.

http://www.gaslandthemovie.com/

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
122. Awwwww, shucks!
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 12:24 AM
Jan 2012

Thanks! That's so nice of you to say..... you made my day

And yes, Shrimpy is incredibly lovable!!!!! She is infinitely SQUEEEEEEEEEEEE-zy! She drives me MENTAL with her cuteness!!!! EVERYONE falls in love with Shrimpy.

I'd love to get some PA water and light it at one of the meetings!!!

It's looking like our town board is coming around, and will probably agree on moratorium.

Most all the other towns that I know of have already passed moratoriums......my concern is what happens next? A moratorioum is just a waiting period. After the year, I'm sure the bastard lying gas co.s will be out in force again.

P.S. I always love your sig pic. I always have to stop for a minute and watch. Love it!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
124. I hope you get your moratorium as well. It's a start, anyway.
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 12:50 AM
Jan 2012

The cat looks like one I had years ago--he thought he was a dog, and the dogs didn't let on that he wasn't!

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
40. Best of luck, H2O Man
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 01:22 PM
Jan 2012

if there's anyone who can elevate people to the issues and dangers of fracking, it's him.

librechik

(30,677 posts)
43. Will, I will speak to my boss & see if there's any way we can cover the story
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 01:28 PM
Jan 2012

A human interest angle on a subject we generally want to do more on, has to be hard $cience oriented though too--no promises, of course

D

wakemewhenitsover

(1,595 posts)
54. Best of luck, H2O Man
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 01:50 PM
Jan 2012

It is disgraceful that appropriate governmental forces have not yet responded to the conscientious efforts of yourself and others in this important cause.

Great article, Will.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
55. Patrick McElligott? I thought Chief Paul Waterman is H2Oman?
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 01:53 PM
Jan 2012

Am I missing something?


Thank you; great article. Great Spirit be with Patrick McElligot.

I'm in Ontario County, NY and there is citizen action in the little rural towns out here to get our town boards to pass moratoriums on letting the gas co. come in. Some people have already signed leases with the companies. Most town boards are agreeing to set a moratorium, most people I meet on petition drives are very much against allowing fracking. This is the Finger Lakes and it is sublimely beautiful. The disaster in PA demonstrates why it MUST be stopped.

www.frackfreegenesee.org
FRACKING=POISON

Uncle Joe

(58,464 posts)
63. This is an excellent interview, William, kudos to H2OMan and peace to his family.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 02:19 PM
Jan 2012

Thanks for the thread, WilliamPitt.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
69. One of my all time favorite DUers, I am worried about his health, but not at all surprised that he
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 02:43 PM
Jan 2012

would have the courage to do this. Not someone to say no to, they didn't know him I guess.

I hope the news papers in his area publish this, maybe we could call them.

The more publicity he gets, and maybe the local OWS groups, Albany, Buffalo eg, could support him.

He is a perfect example of real strength of character.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
73. The evidence on this is not conclusive
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 02:56 PM
Jan 2012

I've read two studies on this that contradict each other. One study. done by Duke University, shows a correlation between methane concentrations in water drawn from wells near fracked sites. Another, more recent and more in depth study done by Penn State draws the opposite conclusion, i.e. that there is no correlation between fracking and contamination of drinking water wells.

The Penn State study points out that the Duke study was done before legislation requiring upgraded well casings and cementing was implemented in Pennsylvania which casts doubt on the applicability of Duke's findings to current practice. The study also points out that Pennsylvania is one only two states that have no standards covering the construction of private drinking water wells and that about 40% of the 233 wells studied failed at least one safe drinking water standard prior to the occurance of fracking. Methane seepage in the ground has been known to occur in Pennsylvania and high concentrations of methane in the water have been observed prior to fracking taking place.

My suggestion to the H20 Man would be to better educate himself on the subject and wait for a conclusive determination of the dangers and benefits of fracking before he goes on his strike.

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2011/05/02/1100682108.full.pdf+html

http://www.rural.palegislature.us/documents/reports/Marcellus_and_drinking_water_2011_rev.pdf

blaze

(6,383 posts)
75. And I suspect most of us here would suggest
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 03:11 PM
Jan 2012

that the industry better educate themselves and wait for a conclusive determination of the dangers and benefits before proceeding any further.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
85. I think he has educated himself. He wrote enough on DU
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 04:22 PM
Jan 2012

about what he learned to give me the impression he knew a lot more than most people about the issue. I trust his judgement, more than studies until I know who funded them. There is enough tragic evidence in this world that when there is money to be made, people do not matter. I would prefer to err on the side of people.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
123. You'll get a fine old education if you watch that GASLAND documentary. Flaming water, anyone? NT
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 12:46 AM
Jan 2012
 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
125. I trust documented scientific studies...
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 01:10 AM
Jan 2012

...not films that may or may not be telling all the facts.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
127. As opposed to anonymous internet posters
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 01:54 AM
Jan 2012

who may or may not be telling all the facts.

My name is Will Pitt.

What's yours?

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
143. I posted links to both studies.
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 02:05 PM
Jan 2012

I think I gave a fair synopsis of both studies, but why don't you read them and let us know what you think? Both studies were done by a well known university and are credible, at least in my opinion. There is, however, no question that they reached different conclusions which was my main point.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
151. That's irrelevant
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 12:32 PM
Jan 2012

To my knowledge, you are the only poster on DU that uses his real name. I don't see where that changes the credibility of your posts because facts are facts and opinions are opinions. If you're claiming something is a fact, I'd expect you to provide appropriate citations whether or not you really are William Pitt. As far as opinions go, I respect yours whether I agree with it or not.

You've made a lot of very good posts on DU that were well worth reading and I follow your posts on the strength of that. There are a few other posters on DU that I similarly follow and they are not using a real name. I don't think that detracts from the quality of their posts.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
146. Then read the linked interview with H2OMan in which he refers to a very recent study
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 07:48 PM
Jan 2012

as being part of his reason for what he is now doing. Seems you have not read it.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
152. Can you provide a link?
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 12:40 PM
Jan 2012

I'm posting from a BlackBerry and looking for the study is a bit tedious with it. I'd be very interested to read that study and will have access to a computer tomorrow night.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
157. If you click the link in the OP, at the bottom of the text, and read the interview, the study
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 03:57 AM
Jan 2012

is mentioned there by H2OMan.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
159. I did a little searching and found that the study in question is the Duke Study, which I've read.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:41 AM
Jan 2012

See Post No. 73 for a link to that study and to the Penn State Study.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
77. Thanks for keeping us informed Will
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 03:22 PM
Jan 2012

And this does not suprise me at all...Mr Watterman is one tough guy and if you get in the ring with him you are in for a real fight...
And he chose the issue most dear to him and his people and I admire him so much for it.

Mira

(22,380 posts)
82. That explains why I have missed H2Oman -
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 04:05 PM
Jan 2012

I wish Patrick more than the best, all his efforts will one way or another be rewarded, he has
Conviction and Courage and he is a powerful man.
( I am the daughter of a hunger striker, it stirs up much emotion, and oceans of support)

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
84. What's the end game here?...
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 04:13 PM
Jan 2012

is this a "I'm not going to eat until they stop fracking"? Or is this "I'm not going to eat for a month to publicize the issue of fracking"?

If it's the former, then I worry for H20Man's health and welfare. If it's the latter, then I applaud his commitment and wish him all the success in the world.

Sid

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
131. I believe that as stated above...
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 02:17 AM
Jan 2012

A dialogue with public officials on the issue

Period.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002163385#post35

A very reasonable request. I worry about his health, but he's always been the stubborn type.

handmade34

(22,758 posts)
86. to H2O Man
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 04:57 PM
Jan 2012
and we WILL make those calls!!

"...call NYS Senator Tom Libous,...tell him (to) talk to the leaders of the grass roots groups that are opposed to hydrofracking...He has offices in Binghamton and Albany. The Binghamton phone numbesr are: 607-773-8771, and 877-854-2687. The Albany number is: 518-455-2677. His e-mail is: senator@senatorlibous.com

"...also call Governor Andrew Cuomo on this. You do not have to be a New York State resident. His phone number is: 518-474-8390

Governor Cuomo has appointed his ex-brother-in-law, environmental attorney Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., to an advisory position on hydrofracking in New York State....Robert has the Governor's ear, and he knows me. It would be good if people called his office at Pace University, and tell his secretary, Mary Beth Postman, to have Robert call Cuomo on this issue. That number is: 914- 422-4343..."

Wind Dancer

(3,618 posts)
89. K & R!
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 06:36 PM
Jan 2012

Wishing H20 Man the best of luck in fighting TPTB. It's an admirable mission to prevent fracking and hopefully this will get enough attention to make a difference. He's a beloved DUer and respected by everyone here.

I am concerned about his health issues but sometimes you must take a stand for your beliefs.

Be safe!

juajen

(8,515 posts)
137. Yes, but can't someone younger and healthier do it? I don't want this beloved DU man to hurt in
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 07:23 AM
Jan 2012

any way that is preventable. He is so brave, and I never want to not support him, but this just hurts. I will make calls tomorrow, but that seems like such a small thing to do. Can't we get a group to at least join him? I am a diabetic, or I would go to be with him. My early demise or emergency room visit wouldn't help the cause, I don't think, or would it?

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
108. You are a Great American
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 08:43 PM
Jan 2012

I'm working on trying to get your story out there. It needs be told as loudly as possible.

Thank you.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
99. H20 Man makes a difference every day of his life. This isn't necessary
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 07:34 PM
Jan 2012

A hunger strike might or might not work, dependent on the attention it gets and it can be very harmful and shorten his life. If that happens then what about all the work he won't be doing because he's too ill or worse?

Sometimes one has to fight the fight where it is in their lives. Changing minds, educating people, caring, and always doing the best one can to make things better for everyone can be an everyday endeavor, with no fanfare or recognition. But it's just as important.

Having said that I support H20 Man completely.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
101. I stand support of Pat and this courageous action...
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 07:43 PM
Jan 2012

Not an easy course of action. We will ring phones and such in support, and I suspect think of him each time we eat while he does not.

tpsbmam

(3,927 posts)
105. Courageous mensch.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 08:39 PM
Jan 2012

That's what I tweeted, along with a link to your story. H20 Man, always liked & respected you on DU. Now I'm awed. I, too, have many physical limitations and am constantly trying to find a balance between pushing myself to do maybe more than I think I can and, at the same time, acknowledging that I can push just so far before I start to do real damage. I think I wimp out before I need to too often lately. You give me impetus to do more -- thank you.

Be well, sir. I don't know what your physical challenges are, but please take care of you through all of this. Will, I read your article at Truthout -- thank you for bringing PM's story to us. H20 Man, I'm not a believer but I'm going to be doing my version of praying for you everyday, many times a day.






shanti

(21,675 posts)
107. Maximum respect to H20 Man!
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 08:41 PM
Jan 2012

one of DU's best for many years! I wish him well, this is such a powerful move against something so terrible.

YankeyMCC

(8,401 posts)
109. I recommended the thread
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 08:48 PM
Jan 2012

because I hope to help spread the word in the hope it will facilitate a quick end of H2OMan's need to do this.

It is an act of great compassion for his community and the children of this nation and world. I am concerned for his health and safety, I hope he remains well and will also not hold himself to unreasonable standard.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
110. I respect his decision.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 08:51 PM
Jan 2012

But I wish he wouldn't. He's too valuable a voice to undermine his health.

However, I wish him god speed because I know he will go ahead with this regardless. If others joined in his fight and became a voice to big to be ignored, this might not be necessary.

calimary

(81,532 posts)
121. Yeah, I do too, but I wish he didn't feel compelled to go to this length.
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 12:12 AM
Jan 2012

Solidarity with you, H2O Man! I'm honored to consider you a DU friend!

CRH

(1,553 posts)
111. Hunger Strike and a Fast, are as different as night and day, ...
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 09:21 PM
Jan 2012

A fast is a healthy and spiritual experience, can last many, many, days, ... and will deliver physical and mental benefit; often the tranquil experience will open windows and doors into contemplation and meditation, otherwise blocked by the stress of everyday life.

A hunger strike on the other hand is a political demonstration, can be stressful, and sometimes deteriorate the being, physically, mentally, and other.

The two should not be confused.

Some have mentioned H2O man has had some health considerations, and worry. In more cases than not the 'fasting' will be beneficial for the cleansing effects and balancing of the processes of elimination, blood pressure, pulse, respiration and true relaxation that provides rest and recuperation. If H2O man is indeed ailing I wish him well and wish the experience whether a fast or a demonstration, to benefit his health.

As for the political, the fast, or cessation of nutrition and sustenance other than water, has often been used in the past with varying degrees of effect. It should be noted, most people are ignorant of the state of fasting, and greatly exaggerate its potential danger to most people even in less than optimum health. For sure there are exceptions, diabetics on insulin, transplant survivors, drug dependent individuals, etc. ... The subject immediately raises emotions of fear in many, but the fact is most people will suffer no ill effects from three to four weeks without food, providing cessation of the fast is accomplished with limited intake of juices and gradual restoration of feeding on fruits, vegetables, seeds, nuts, and beyond to animal proteins if thought to be necessary. Some people have fasted for much longer with no ill effects, it has individual limits finding basis in many different circumstances and conditions.

Perhaps the most significant risk to H2O Man, is in realizing when a fast becomes starvation, when healthy and beneficial, becomes a political demonstration resulting in self destruction. The two are separated only by intent and intelligence.

I have read H2O Man for many years, and wish him well with his cessation whether political or with dual considerations that include better health and function. No danger should follow if the signs of 'true' hunger, a sweetness of breath, instinctive sensual salivation, brightness of mind, and an unmistakable sensation of well being; are recognized and heeded.

I have confidence in his intelligence and judgement, and wish him the best of experiences and results.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
115. I've been wondering where he's been, haven't seen him lately. I've got such mixed feelings on this.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 10:19 PM
Jan 2012

While I think it's a noble cause and a truly courageous effort, he's been so unwell in the past few years. I'm worried he'll lose his life doing this.

Honestly, I believe he'd think that was okay. But I'll miss his "voice". Fracking is an insult to our great mother Earth. I'm guessing Patrick did everything he could to try to change things by conventional means and decided to take this drastic step. He knows, deeply understands, how much fracking harms all of us. I am in awe of his courage and spirit but fearful for the man we've come to love.

Good luck Patrick! You are in my heart and spirit as you embark on this next adventure....

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
128. Thanks H2O Man ! For truly standing up...not like most of us - just merely yak about
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 02:00 AM
Jan 2012

it.

May you be strong

We love and admire you

juajen

(8,515 posts)
139. Well, damn! I should have read the whole article. My apologies for this failure.
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 08:03 AM
Jan 2012

As usual, Waterman is prepared and so right that it is sickening. I've often thought that the only way we could get this country to pay attention to what's going on around us, is for those us who are elderly, or not in good health, to make a huge commitment to put ourselves in harms way to prevent our children from being hurt. After all, we are winding down and they are the future. Plainly put, it is harder to ignore us, than our young people that they hold in such disdain.

So, I reluctantly add my support to our beloved DU friend and will do what I can to alert people to what is going on where he is and all around our country. There is so much worrying the people I know, that they are on "disconnect" and feel helpless to do anything, but hold on to their electronics, play games and socialize, and try to hang on to their jobs, or get one if they are unemployed. Indeed it is a sad time in our country. So, let our DU hero be what he is meant to be, and I pray people will get off their proverbial asses and do something, even if they think it is minute.

Love to my friend, Waterman, who helped me through a tough time, and inspires me. I hope I can, in some way, return the favor. Since it's a holiday I am afraid I will be unable to reach any governmental "friends", but I will begin. We all have a voice. It is past time to use it to defeat this attack on our land and what sustains us. Join in and do what you can.

prairierose

(2,145 posts)
141. Thanks Will for this story and Patrick,thank you...
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 12:54 PM
Jan 2012

for all that you do to try to save the planet from the monsters set on destruction. I hope this will be successful and that you will come to no harm. I will be sending emails to the officials and good thoughts for your health and safety.

This is such an important issue for all. I hope that your sacrifice will bring more attention to this vital subject. None of us can survive without clean water.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
144. I don't know H2O Man but
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 02:21 PM
Jan 2012

Respect, well wishes and thanks. Quite literally, as I always wanted to make the Catskills NY area my home.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
147. People who are on Twitter can click the Twitter button to spread this around, if they wish.
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 07:51 PM
Jan 2012

I did and it did work, although it's now showing on the window here.

H2O Man

(73,639 posts)
154. My younger son
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 07:38 AM
Jan 2012

stopped by to tease me this weekend -- he form of affection, I suppose. The first thing he does when he comes here is look in the cupboards, etc .... and he said, "I think you've been forcing the whole family to go on a hunger strike for the past month. Buy some food, Old Man."

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
156. Just checking in....
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 07:54 AM
Jan 2012

Hang in there Waterman! We will do our best to help you keep this issue at the top.

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