I don't see how the polls are close

I really wish Obama's justice department would be all over the voting machines in Florida, Ohio, Iowa, Indiana, New Hampshire, and Texas. I have a really bad feeling about this election.

and fades out, doesn't even connect to the awning. I bet they use the excuse that it is an 'artist's rendition' ... if they get questioned on it.

The Minister of Disinformation is busy in his studio, apparently.

Will the MSM even TOUCH this???

I'm tweeting this masterpiece, and I suggest others do the same, but please be sure to # or @ it to some media folks...

headline...romney photoshops a crowd

they remove the sun shadow from the from between the middle of the poles, you can just make out the where the photoshopped it and took out the back wall

That's a STARTLINGLY fake photoshop job. I could fake evidence better than that with nothing but Microsoft Paint.

They're losing it,

The Plaid Adder

That is hysterical!!!

Romney campaign amateur.

Man, this goes beyond "rookie mistake." YIKES! I hope to see this turn up on the Daily Show soon.

The Plaid Adder

wow, the nerve!

I don't see it anywhere. Please tell me where you see it.

OMG, that's so funny. I want to show all of my friends.

Towards the left side, you see the back of the banner

That is pretty bad!

I'll be busy looking over more Romney 'Crowd' pics for a bit ...

These might make you feel better. It also has Romney's Crowd





http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0PDoQ0jqn1QxRMAaamJzbkF?p=obama%27s+campaign+rallies+2012+crowd+shots&fr=yfp-t-701-1&ei=utf-8&n=30&x=wrt&y=Search

for these dumb events? I wonder how many of them were coerced by their employers or actually paid to attend.

Huge clue right there. Look at the banners on the left that are backwards.. unless Romney has added letters to his name, that is a dead giveaway right there.

This is PATHETIC. His supporters say oh.. they just didn't know how to stitch a panorama. Bullshit. That's not even close... another LIE from the Romney Camp.

Please tweet that pic to the MSM... that and the Meat Loaf video should be a shining example of the dung that passes for Romney's "High School Civics Class" campaign.

TYY

poles is a duplicate. I think they attempted to exaggerate by a lot more than 20%.

It could happen!

Wow.

The same way they blamed McCain's wife's cookie recipe plagiarism on a volunteer.

What a loser he must think we've really dumb to believe that pic lol

for anyone outside the 1%, so it's no surprise.

I've taken photos before where the stitching makes it look awful. That's what could be at play here. The area between the poles on the right just looks like an overlap. The far left pole on the right isn't supposed to be there ... but it's clear the crowd goes as far to the right of the photo as it shows. My guess is that the stitching overlapped part of the crowd, but it ultimately doesn't change the size of the crowd ... since the space is the same, even if you account for 'cloning'.

don't think so

I just think it was a really bad pano.

I know what your're talking about, and this is clearly not that, AT ALL. Look again at the middle section where parts of the audience, from left to right, is found on each side of the large white pole. Panorama stitching does not work that way. Photoshop does.

You move the camera around and it takes multiple pictures as you do - then it stitches the pictures together to make a wider panorama that would be possible otherwise. Sometimes when you do this the software screws up the stitching and you get weird duplications that look like double exposures. This really looks like one of those.

Especially when you move while taking it, because you can see in the dupe on the far right, more of the crowd is visible by the dupe pillar, because the camera angle has changed.

Maybe they posted it because they thought it looked like lots of people or whatever, but I don't think you can fuck up a photochop this bad. It's Photosynth or some competing panorama product, and the person using it either doesn't know how to do it, or maybe did it deliberately I suppose, as they took the picture.

I think you are correct. If you try to take a panorama with my camera, if you don't do it correctly and I never do, it looks like this or worse.

I've only used Photoshop a couple of times and I could do a better job if this was deliberately done. I can't imagine anyone would release this though whether it's a bad panorama or a Photoshop.

I looked closely and at first I was wondering where the bright sunspot on the audience on the right image is not where I thought it should be on the left side.

Then if you look closely, it's clear that the right image is overlapping the left image so you don't see the sunspot-ed portion of the left part of the image.

So, to me it looks like a really careless panorama pic. Why they would release something so bad is beyond me and if someone was Photoshopping this, I would expect them to have a clue and get it right.

In the center of the image, the same crowd-members are found on either side of the first large (itself duplicated) pole. That does not happen in a careless panorama. That is really awful photoshop. Period.

It's hard to believe, I know . . . but yeah. They released something this BADLY photoshopped, on purpose.

I still think it's a panorama. Why would they do it? It's a large enough crowd as is?

It makes no sense.

I think people get to wound up in these things just like that story of the ambulance chaser Allred trying to get sympathy for her poor client who only received 5 million dollars in her settlement.

the sections. Does a panorama REPEAT BLOCKS of scenery? That's one crappy camera, in that case! "Look, Ma, there's the Matterhorn! And over here, too!"

Look at what I can get my camera to do:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021639137#post108

I agree that it seems like someone has done a bad job with a panorama shot and it seems that some effort was made to duplicate /photoshop. Even if I overlap the pieces correctly, it doesn't seem to account for all of the irregularities. I see different exposures for the same part of the crowd, which could be due to a panorama shot. It's as if someone may have corrected the overlaps but forgot to hit save and sent out a piece that was partially doctored, but oh so flawed.

I understand what you are saying in your other post - the duplicated people on either side of the white pole make it look like a photoshop job, but it really is bad stitching from an auto-stitched panorama.

The people you are referring to are on the left side of the pole - but they (and the pole) are duplicated to the right. It looks like the person moved their camera too quickly as they did the panorama and the software confused the aisle from one frame with the concrete wall extending from the base of the pole in another frame. You can see where it attempted to put the two together. The filtering used to smooth the stitching is what causes the fading of the pole on the left as it goes upward.

I can cause something similar to happen with my phone. Here is a panoramic shot of a box lying around here. You can see the duplication on it:



Here is a non-panoramic shot of it:



Now they may have gone ahead and posted that pic because it made the place and crowd look bigger than it was - I am not saying they didn't take advantage of a 'fortunate accident' - but just that it doesn't appear to be photoshoped.

(added this on edit)
Here is another attempt - got even more duplication this time.

It seems blurriness would be a feature of a bad pano-pic. I'm no photographer, but the Romney image appears to be crisp and in focus (- in focus - in focus.) I'm not discounting your theory out of hand, but I'm not convinced it was just a happy accident.

I was looking to see how crisp or blurry the image was - I think the distance makes it look better, but it is fairly blurry in places too... but either way, look at this:

If you look at the aisle to the left of the pole (the left pole), there are a couple people duplicated there. A man in a white shirt and black pants, and a woman (I think a woman at least) walking down the aisle.

They clearly are duplicated people - but they are in slightly different poses. That means they are not just an exact duplicate as you would have with copying done in photoshop, but must have come from two separate photos - as would be the case with a stitched panorama.

I cut out that section of the image here to have a look at it:

It's a cool pic, even if it exaggerates the Mitt-thusiasm.

As soon as I saw the original, I thought it looked like a DMD or other smartphone pano. These details prove it. Thanks for the good detective work.

I'm happy when the Rmoney campaign has to waste time on defense, but the charge of Photoshop cloning just isn't going to stick in this case.

Which happens with hasty panos.

Sorry, it is. Why would they do it, it's a large crowd?

Check post #108

Pros don't make these mistakes. They couldn't possibly be accepting amateur pix unless they just don't care and think it will fool the people they are after. It's no mistake accept in the acceptance of it.

They why does the duplicated section on both sides of the white poles no look the same all the way back? When it is supposed to be the "middle section," there is no back wall, just people till the grass starts. When it is supposed to be the far right section, it has walls at the back (two duplicated walls by the way), but why aren't they duplicated in the middle section as well?

Also, as people pointed out, the ROMNMNEY signs are a giveaway as well. And there is a dude with a red short with white writing on that you can see clearly in the left main section as well as the "middle section." If this was just badly stitched, he would not appear in the middle of the bad stitch between the "middle section" and the far right section.

Enlarging a Twinkie makes it seem there's more of that extra special Titanium Dioxide colored fake cream filling . . .

Carcinogenic Twinkies. Who'd a thought?

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-titanium-dioxide.htm#lbimages

Look at the canopy, paying particular attention to the skylights and framework.

The only way this could be a bad panorama is if the photographer drank a fifth of vodka for lunch then shot handheld.

way up in the air!

PATHETIC!

But nothing rMoney does surprises me, the guy could be a serial killer or secret kingpin, I wouldn't be surprised at all. the guy is scum.

R O M N M N E Y 2012 R Y A N

but goddammit, I am beginning to hate these motherfuckers! It's the lying that gets me, and the casual disregard for any notion that we the people just might be smart enough to sniff out their fucking lies.

I too am beginning to hate these motherfuckers!

Glad you're here - we need you, especially NOW. Let's send those assholes to the unemployment line en masse!






Now get to work.

what looks like a short white pole or or maybe a large white trash can - and there's a bright aqua-blue spot above it and slightly to the right. I see two blocks of "crowd" like that.

BLINDFOLDED!
Give me a break, did a six year old do that?
It looks like someone stitches a few identical pictures and just overlaid them.
You have to be blind not to see it.

Perhaps they were making an attempt at a panorama, and just overlaid too many images. I have done that, but I fixed it, because it looked this bad, had I left it alone.

LOL!

1. My bet is that this isn't a Photo Shop image.

2. I think it is one of those panorama pictures point and shoots, iPhones, and Androids now produce.

3. Whether a terrible photoshop or a terrible use of the Panorama feature, the photo from Romney's website at a quick glance shows a bigger venue and bigger crowd than there was.

4. If made on an iPhone (e.g.) with its itty bitty screen, it might not have even been obvious the Panorama didn't "line up."

5. So, the conclusion must be: (1) Romney folks can't master Photo Chop; (2) or can't use a camera.

Whichever, the picture is sad.

How about enlarging it enough so we can see Mitt actually handing out $100 bills to fill the seats?

Whoops. Sorry. He'd be handing out 625 Yuan, Chinese factory owner and currency manipulator that he is.

that can do the same thing.

ctrl-v
ctrl-v
ctrl-v
ctrl-v

after all, one moron looks pretty much like the next moron.

The Panera Bread here in Pensacola, Florida has a picture of Romney baking bread. It might be some kind of unexpected backup plan in case he loses the election. Did he spend all of his money during the campaign?

At least then they'd have a big crowd. No one would probably notice Romney's dark hued hands on the podium.
Hahahaha

I don't think I've ever seen anyone try this hard to lose an election.

Excuse my quick 'n' dirty Photoshop--it's still better than the one in the OP, though.



Edit: Oops, my mistake. This one is actually closer.

This looks much better.

They have a secret Republican clone program.

is a creepy illusion

....as a guide but then I notice clone brush duplicates within even that. Like whole sections of seating duplicated and the overflow crowd outside was all duped. Zoom in and look on the grass and you will see a solitary figure that appears twice and there is no way that could be like that without putting it there. All in all the actual crowd size had to be less than a quarter of what this picture implies.

....but it most definitely is no such thing. There are areas on opposite sides that could only have gotten there if they were put there.

Some of the efforts are really obvious too. Like the tops of the trees cut off at the horizontal support beam in the center of the picture.

I think it looks more like a bad automatic stitch job, but quite possibly was manually initiated with intent to deceive.

Exactly how the image was created is an interesting diversion, but I feel it misses the primary point that the Romney campaign published another deceptive image. There's no arguing that point, so I'm of the mind that Photoshop V. Panorama is a red herring.

Bullshit, I tried Google Chrome.

but I do agree with your earlier statement:

Someone looked at that and said, "COOL!! Let's use it!!!"

The camera angles change slightly, so a extra row of people become visible on the right. That suggests the camera moved. When you do a Photosynth, you're supposed to move as little as possible so the software can do a better job of stitching it together.

But I agree, someone saw the output and said 'woah that looks like a lot of people, post it!'

As a graphic artist who uses Photoshop everyday for a living, I find this to be not only a slap in the face of every hard working graphic artist, but to be completely ridiculous to even imagine anyone someone so terrible at photoshop that they would think that NOONE would notice....jerks

Their supporters (aka ouche baggers) ARE pretty damn stupid. Hell, they're probably posting this pic all over the place saying "See, look at this picture...we ARE going to win..hooray!"

Leave it to the smarter guys (aka: The Dems) to figure it out!

or maybe "Where's Ryan"?

it's identicle at the base of the pillars and to the right of them aswell, by and large.

or are we that smart?

This is just too bad to be believed. It may be a panorama, but they could have touched it up and made it realistic, even I can do that. They made it what it is and wanted it that way.

But very badly photoshopped. How embarrassing. Did they really think no one would notice?