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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 02:47 PM Oct 2012

Obama's Protecting Himself From Ohio Theft

In addition to OH, VA and FL, Obama is actively campaigning in NV, CO, IA, WI and NH. And for good reason.

The five smaller states comprise a backup strategy of winning without Ohio. And it's paying off. In polls released this week, Obama has an edge in all five states. With VA and FL practically tied and a comfortable lead in Ohio, Romney cannot win by simply sweeping OH, VA and FL. While Romney is kept busy trying to win these states, he also needs one of the five smaller states. And it doesn't look good for him right now.

Let's not forget, NC is still in play, and even though Obama isn't stopping there, we have a huge lead in early voting turnout. The ground game is strong there, and I believe NC and other states like it are potential flips due to the massive effort being put out on the ground by the Obama campaign.

So even if the Secretary of State pulls some kind of trick on Election day by not counting the early votes (as has been rumored here) or even if they are able to steal it, Obama has a solid strategy for winning. I suspect Obama is very aware of the election issues in OH and I believe they have prepared for some scenario where the results are muddied or tampered with.

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RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
5. Non-enrolled in any Party, or other party
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 03:28 PM
Oct 2012

Green, Libertardian, Socialist Labor, Socialist Worker, etc. -- you know.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
3. I think they're really wise...
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 03:00 PM
Oct 2012

To be fighting for Ohio and Florida, but figuring out realistic ways to win without either. This is why we should feel cautiously optimistic. Obama has many, many more paths to 270 than Romney does. That said, GOTV!!

Blue Owl

(50,532 posts)
7. Put an arrow through your HartIntercivic, Ohio
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 03:35 PM
Oct 2012

Rmoney's family should in no way be connected to the voting process, machinery, or tabulation.

brooklynite

(94,792 posts)
10. So, a Fox News-affiliated TV station is reporting on voting machine risks?
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:19 PM
Oct 2012

These conspiracies are getting very confusing...

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
12. Not really so confusing. The GOP is notorious for accusing us of
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 05:01 PM
Oct 2012

doing the devious things they are in fact doing. It is Rove's MO.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
19. Oops, I just assumed being a Fox affiliate
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 07:57 PM
Oct 2012

but what 99th said is true. The local LA Fox affiliate isn't anywhere near as bad as FAUX itself, though I still find it hard to watch.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
17. Sometimes LOCAL Fox "affiliate" stations are way cooler than Faux News
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 06:34 PM
Oct 2012

Here in Portland (OR) the local Fox affiliate station carried some of the best
coverage of Occupy Portland back in it's heyday.. sometimes it depends on
the reporter/anchor, and the spin they put or don't put on it.

brooklynite

(94,792 posts)
9. Disgaree with your theory...
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:14 PM
Oct 2012

...they're making a play in VA / Fl / CO/ NV etc. because Ohio isn't enough. Assuming all usual red/blue splits, you need Ohio plus one other toss-up. Better to compete in five and win 1-2 than compete in 1 and risk losing everything.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
11. It's 2012 and we still have an electoral college.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:57 PM
Oct 2012

If that isn't a major reason to distrust every single member of the Political Class, I can't think of what other matter would actually trump it.

 

chuckstevens

(1,201 posts)
14. Virginia's the Key
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 05:14 PM
Oct 2012

I really think Virginia is the safety net. If the president can carry Virginia, he can still lose OH, Florida, and Colorado and win reelection with about 276.

If things start to look strange on election night, will the networks tow the corporate line and pooh, pooh any attempts to suggest that the numbers don't add up? I'm very concerned about this. The Koch Brothers are not spending 1/2 billion dollars without expecting results. Two questions:

A. Will the margin of error be to great to steal?
B. Will the "Sheeple" roll over again and let the Republicons steal another election?

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
15. Snap! I thought maybe Obama's DoJ was prosecuting GOP felons
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 06:30 PM
Oct 2012

and exposing the rampant GOP election fraud being conducted Ohio (and other states)
pretty much in broad daylight, what with Tagg Rmoney owning the votes and all.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
18. Your final comment was alarming but not surprising.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 06:51 PM
Oct 2012

I can see Husted sitting on early votes and provisional ballots until election day and then tabulating those results last.

Obama needs to insist that every single vote is counted in Ohio if the alternate strategy you are suggesting fails.

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