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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSomething to consider. Romney is NOW buying up massive air time in States that don't matter.
Salon had tweeted it on twitter. They said it was to "project confidence." At first, I agreed.
Then I remembered WHO owns the majority of radio and billboards now: Clear Channel. Who owns Clear Channel??? Bain Capital owns them. See where I'm going with this?
Romney is begging for cash from donors, yet WASTING millions on States that are not in play for him at all. I frankly think that he's filling the coffers of his own investment vehicles, and enriching his friends, with donor money. You have to think like Romney to get this. This is who he is and what he does. The donors are enriching his friends who own the media companies.
JI7
(89,279 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)I guess there's ONE reason to not be a solid blue state, to get attention, and "matter".
Not saying that you believe MN doesn't matter, mind ya!
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Willard doesn't even have an office here
the last I heard Obama was at least 10 points up
Minnesots is going Obama .......... so it is a waste of money for Willard
jonthebru
(1,034 posts)that Rmoney is moving his cash from his campaign to one of his businesses, Clear Channel Broadcasting...
Nobody is dissing any state but the Electoral College in all its (gory,) glory makes certain states the battleground.
I live in Hawaii. Rmoney has a 1% chance of winning here. We don't see very many ads only on Cable networks.
Yes you read correctly: 1%.
toby jo
(1,269 posts)femrap
(13,418 posts)I mute every Repugnant ad there is....Josh Mandel is really on my last nerve. I watched the debates w/ Sherrod. What a little snot this brat is!!
And Josh just pushed papers in Iraq.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)Bucky
(54,087 posts)progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)The BLUE STATE BALL will be celebrating Obama's re-election this year.
Are tickets on sale yet?
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)The areas where MN media bleeds inti Wisconsin tend to lean GOP and they know that hell will freeze over before they can get close enough in MN to try stealig it.
Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)While the UN is watching SOME elections, we get the rethug owned "Election Integrity Watch" watching voters for potential "fraud".
http://www.minnpost.com/politics-policy/2010/10/group-behind-ominous-voter-fraud-ads-all-we-are-doing-watching
<snip>
McGrath (was asked) to explain Election Integrity Watch in his own terms.
McGrath is the executive director of Minnesota Majority, one group in the coalition. The others identified on the coalition's website are Minnesota Voters Alliance, Freedom Council and the North Star Tea Party Patriots.
Money, volunteers and mission
McGrath said the coalition has spent about $50,000 over the past two months and also recruited about 6,000 volunteers to be deployed next Tuesday.
When I asked where the $50,000 had come from, McGrath responded via email: "As a 501 C4 organization, there is no public reporting of donors and we respect our donors' privacy. I can tell you that the money raised for Election Integrity Watch did come from private donors among our membership base."
The bulk of the money went to pay for 10 electronic billboards in Rochester, Minn., and the Twin Cities, radio ads in Winona and the Twin Cities and 20 posters on bus shelters mainly in Minneapolis and St. Paul, McGrath said.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)just saying...
Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)As it has in the past, on Election Day, Nov. 6, 2012, the Civil Rights Division will implement a comprehensive program to help ensure ballot access that will include the following:
Shortly before the election, the Civil Rights Division will announce which jurisdictions will have federal personnel as election monitors and observers at polling places.
Civil Rights Division attorneys in both the Voting and Criminal Sections in Washington, D.C., will be ready to receive election-related complaints of potential violations relating to any of the statutes the Civil Rights Division enforces. Attorneys in the division will take appropriate action and will consult and coordinate with local U.S. Attorneys Offices and with other entities within the Department of Justice concerning these complaints before, during, and after Election Day, as appropriate.
Civil Rights Division staff will be available by phone to receive complaints related to ballot access 1-800-253-3931 toll free or 202-307-2767) or by TTY (1-877-267-8971). In addition, individuals may also report complaints, problems, or concerns related to voting by fax to 202-307-3961, by email to voting.section@usdoj.gov and, closer to Election Day, by complaint forms that may be submitted through a link on the departments website, at www.justice.gov/crt/about/vot/ .
Complaints related to violence or threats of violence at a polling place should, in the first instance, always be reported to local police authorities by calling 911.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)It may be to get into media markets that are seen/heard in Wisconsin. Just a thought.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)was the only state mentioned in the article.
crunch60
(1,412 posts)journalist. He explains exactly how the vote will be stolen/disappear in the upcoming election.
You can decide.
siligut
(12,272 posts)I have been reviewing the information available and it all points to election theft.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)japple
(9,844 posts)missed it otherwise. Still a big fan of Palast from the stolen election in 2000!
GreenPartyVoter
(72,382 posts)timlot
(456 posts)Frances
(8,547 posts)Then if he wins the popular vote, have the supreme court rule that he gets to be President, even tho Obama has won the electoral college
Back in 2000, I have been told that Bush (W) planned to do that if he won the popular vote and lost the electoral college
dems_rightnow
(1,956 posts).... that the one with fewer electoral votes is President. Be serious.
still_one
(92,454 posts)dems_rightnow
(1,956 posts)Provided you meant "in direct". It couldn't be clearer, and it's not happening.
still_one
(92,454 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)I don't think constitutionality would matter to the 5 SCOTUS thugs.
still_one
(92,454 posts)This. That would rule the constitution unconstitutional. It can only be changed with an amendment or constitutional convention
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)though I agree with you that it is unlikely ... No one thought the SCOTUS would rule that Corporations have 1st Amendment rights, either.
theKed
(1,235 posts)that corporations not being equal to natural persons is only implied, and intended, by the 14th amendment; the electoral college deciding who is president is quite explicit. Thats a helluva lot harder to weasel through the court and would produce such a massive groundswell of rage as to shake the courtroons foundations.
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)Article II of the constitution set up the Electoral College....How could Scalia and pals vote to override it?
creeksneakers2
(7,476 posts)of the winning candidate. I've predicted that if Romney wins the popular but loses the EC, he'll try to get a state legislature from a state that went Dem to choose a GOP elector slate. Possibly Pennsylvania. So far, everybody who has responded thinks I'm crazy, but it can't be that crazy because the Florida state legislature threatened to give the state to Bush in 2000, even if a recount was ordered and Gore won.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021602665
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)The teabaggers control 27 state legislatures with a total of 270 electoral votes.
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)The seem to be stealing votes in Texas of all places, so something along these lines does seem more than likely.
Justice4All1
(119 posts)SCOTUS can't give the win if you don't win the electorate.
reusrename
(1,716 posts)...and get some electors to switch, or something, but it didn't involve SCOTUS.
That came later.
creeksneakers2
(7,476 posts)Bush's plan in 2000 was to try to get electors to change their votes. That would have passed the Supreme Court.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2000-11-01/news/18145743_1_electoral-votes-popular-vote-bush-aide
I think Romney would try to do it a different way:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021602665
Still Sensible
(2,870 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)He still owns a stake in Bain
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)when I saw the title of your post.
I think I called it in this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1638138
I just thought he would spread more of it around, i.e., to his canpaign staff, rather than position the donations to go directly into his pocket. But then again ... we ARE talking about romney; so ...
krawhitham
(4,648 posts)MidwestTransplant
(8,015 posts)I would bet the Minnesota adds filter into WI.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)Obama is closing in on 300 electoral votes. I remember 2008 when John McCain was reduced to fighting for states like Georgia, Montana and Kentucky to keep them red. South Dakota has shown signs that it is willing to dance with Obama, if Romney lose a state like South Dakota, imagine the future humiliation for republicans, the entire midwest and upper west could one day be barren land for the republican party.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Of course the Romneys probably have a whole "distributorship" relationship with "consultants". Keep 25% of what you raise through your downline for yourself.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)ieoeja
(9,748 posts)I don't think it is any accident that we first lost control of the House after the DNC decided to embrace Clinton's "run only where the President can win" tactic.
We just plain gave up lots of places where we could never win the Presidency, but owned legislative and local offices.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)Freddie
(9,275 posts)Here in PA I hear NO Romney ads (a blessing indeed) but lots for Smith (R) for Senate. Waste of $ IMO, Casey is very popular here.
Blue Idaho
(5,060 posts)It's what he learned at Bain.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Willard's fake momentum and Roves attempt to steel this election in Ohio.
Here we go again!!!!
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)so he can recoup some of his losses. I like it (the theory, not the practice).
Thekaspervote
(32,809 posts)Ryan too as been in all the big red states flapping ... Is this connected????
Rabid_Rabbit
(131 posts)The article only mentions Minnesota, maybe there are western Wisconsin viewers that watch the St Paul tv stations
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)how very like Romney to find a way to take advantage of the situation
Lucy Goosey
(2,940 posts)It's just so...Romney.
aletier_v
(1,773 posts)Maybe they're don't realize they squandering their advertising.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)with green. None of this should be a surprise.
His company benefited from the Utah Olympics (Sealy mattresses!) probably many more (perhaps Domino's, Marriott, etc.)
He's a snake.
aletier_v
(1,773 posts)Look at the Meatloaf debacle
and that photoshopped crowd
Lots of money doesn't not guarantee competence, often it does the opposite.
crunch60
(1,412 posts)but he has been a very successful Vulture capitalist, make no mistake. and a ruthless one at that. We only know the tip of the iceberg regarding his portfolio and his offshore tax havens.
And he has Five direct spawn to carry on with his mission.. Sort of like all the little Bush shrubs, they can multiply forever. .
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)gottavote
(106 posts)cognoscere
(461 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)using the spotlight to enrich themselves, sell more books, raise speaking fees, etc.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)appacom
(296 posts)Thanks so much for pointing this out. In fact, thanks for your analysis too.
ewagner
(18,964 posts)Step 1: Raise tons of unneeded money for your campaign.
Step 2: Buy Campaign trinkets (Romney Bobbleheads from China via Tag?) from Relatives
Step 3: Buy Campaign Ads from stations that are in your stock portfolio
Step 4 Go to the mailbox and collect your dividend checks.
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)and Romney is welcome to spend his money here if he wants, but I don't think it will change anything. Our 10 electoral votes could be important, though. Not that we're a presidentially purple state, mind you.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)but the States where Romney is suddenly pouring donor money are in places he has no chance of winning. He is spending the money in a way that is raising eyebrows...
mick063
(2,424 posts)at profiting from campaigns..
Sarah Palin is making mint.
Nothing new here.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)jmowreader
(50,567 posts)He is apparently buying time on Clear Channel stations, which he is part owner of...meaning he receives some of this revenue.
OmahaBlueDog
(10,000 posts)They are probably looking at the next set of states on the hierarchy - those that are over 5+ on Obama's favor now. The strategy could make sense for a few reasons:
1) A week and a half out, you might move some numbers. The strategy is probably to force O/B to spend money in those states as well, taking it from the battlegrounds.
2) They may be looking to fire up their base to show up and vote in downline elections. A lot of Senate & House seats are razor thin. Take Minnesota, as an example. Even if you believe it's solid Obama (and I never take anything for granted), you have reps like Bachmann who are in very tight races.
3) It is, in part, to project confidence. If you have the cash, you don't want to creat the impression you've given up.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)drm604
(16,230 posts)Why wouldn't he just take all of that money and add it to the money going to Clear Channel in swing states that actually matter? The money would still go to Bain and he'd be helping his chances.
It seems like there must be some other reason for these buys.
Cappadonna
(308 posts)Between the fact most of the swing state polls have either stayed unchanged or lean towards Obama and Obama has every big state in the bag except Texas and Florida, Mitt pretty much knows he's more than likely not going to be the 45th President. So, like a shrewd businessman, he's hedging his bets and making sure he has a nice stock portfolio at least.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)When you realize that you can prop up OTHER markets outside the swing states, and infuse cash into less performing stations in States that don't matter to Mitt's efforts, it becomes more plausible. Could be more of a case of propping up individual markets, rather than a direct cash infusion from donor pocket to Bain. I know people who work for Clear Channel and they're struggling for money in a lot of markets.
2Design
(9,099 posts)destroying people and their living
tclambert
(11,087 posts)I wouldn't be surprised if afterwards we find out he was embezzling campaign funds all along.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Democratopia
(552 posts)If Romney can boost his total national vote and get several points ahead, it will be less obvious that the swing states are stolen by vote machine vote swapping. Suppose he gets 2 points above Obama, but after vote machine adjustments he gets 6 points ahead - suppose Gallup and Rasmussen is paid to deliver, everyone will be saying the other pollsters got it wrong and it won't look that strange if he makes a sweep of all the swing states he needs.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)on advertising in those states and divert some of the campaign media budget from swing states by doing this.
...no doubt they're also making sure their buddies are richly rewarded for their efforts, too.
lindysalsagal
(20,747 posts)We're all being played, and the vast majority of us love it.
This is just a milder version of the matrix.
DU is the blue pill.
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)one billion dollars of campaign money.... so much of it going to bain and through them to romney.
ugh.... he is distracting them with shiny objects and stealing out of their pocket as he does it.
toby jo
(1,269 posts)he feeds on them - wonder where & when the implosion will be?
If he gets in - watching for it will be sport.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Hope someone is doing the statistics on how much is being spent in Clear Channel markets vs other non-Bain owned media.
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)DearHeart
(692 posts)Every dirty trick in the book is being played!!