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mojowork_n

(2,354 posts)
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 06:25 PM Oct 2012

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Best analysis of Republican Health Care:

"The Scoop on VoucherCare"

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/10/25/the-scoop-on-vouchercare/

.....Under a voucher system the funds collected from payroll taxes would be sent to a Medicare recipient, who in turn relays it to an insurance company as part of his or her insurance premium. The insurance company then pays the provider, but not before extracting a profit, some of which is paid to its shareholders in the form of dividends, as well as paying for operating expenses, including six and seven figure salaries to its top management and senior executives. So the flow of money is redirected from Wages > Medicare Trust Fund > Health Care Providers to Wages > Medicare Trust Fund > Medicare Recipients > Insurance Companies > Health Care Providers.


Thorough, careful analysis but spelled out in a way anyone can follow.
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Copy, Print & Hand Deliver to Grandma & Grandpa (Original Post) mojowork_n Oct 2012 OP
That spells big government. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Oct 2012 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Oct 2012 #3
Hell no. It's not about you, or cash in your pocket. mojowork_n Oct 2012 #4
Don't work for an Insurance company, scanned the article and downloaded it and looking for rebuttals freshwest Oct 2012 #5
OK, my bad. mojowork_n Oct 2012 #6

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
1. That spells big government.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 07:01 PM
Oct 2012

What makes government big, ironically enough, is privatization.

Every time the government enters into a contract or issues a check with a private company, some bureaucrat in the government has to check contract compliance and approve of the check. Those are just a couple of costs associated with privatization of government programs like Medicare and schools.

These programs do not make products and services like medical care cheaper. Medicare delivers medical care at lower administrative cost than any insurance company ever.

The voucher idea is a scam.

All Americans should enjoy a simple single payer option that requires insurance companies to be nonprofit and allows patients a direct relationship with their doctors. The role of the insurance company should be minimal.

Vouchers will be an extremely difficult and expensive program to administer. Many elderly people will get lost in the shuffle.

Vouchers will just result in another Republican mess and lousy health care for American seniors.

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mojowork_n

(2,354 posts)
4. Hell no. It's not about you, or cash in your pocket.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:12 PM
Oct 2012

If you take a minute (okay, several minutes) to read the article, it's laid out pretty clearly.

You get a choice between having your bills paid (Medicare, the single payer model) or you
can get a voucher that gives you a "discount" on paying an insurance company. But the
insurance company doesn't actually provide you a service, they just get a piece of the action.
To borrow a phrase from an old (original) Star Trek episode.

Do you work for an insurance company?

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. Don't work for an Insurance company, scanned the article and downloaded it and looking for rebuttals
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:42 PM
Oct 2012

And I wasn't asking about me, since i don't support it.

mojowork_n

(2,354 posts)
6. OK, my bad.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:52 PM
Oct 2012

It's the best article on the topic I've read. When you lay it all out and follow
the money trail, it just looks like such a no-brainer.

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