I'm glad you did. Good for you.

That it may bee a good idea to leave the country now, while there is still time.

prior to Obama's election? Or why they had closed 50,000 factories in the US and moved them to China? Were they clairvoyant knowing that a black Democrat President would take office in 2008 and just getting into practice for future non-hiring?

That 50,000 figure came from a tv program, don't know which...but this site has the number too:



http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/how-can-america-create-wealth-if-our-industrial-base-is-destroyed-50000-manufacturing-jobs-have-been-lost-every-month-since-2001

She came in, the next morning, to find a list of over 200 of the President's accomplishments sitting on her chair. She came straight over to my desk, because she knew it had to be from me, she thanked me for the information and admitted she was wrong. Pretty suprising, and from what I'm reading and hearing, far from the normal reaction.

a very clearly expressed reason why they dont HAVE TO hate him, why he really IS on THEIR side. It can be tough living in a bubble of hate, sometimes you can come to believe that you HAVE to hate, just to get along, as it were. I'll admit that those people might be few and far between, but you did the right thing. I did that once with a sort of co-worker who said all the stuff the Dem's were doing (social saftey nets and whatnot) were just Constitutionally Illegal. So I printed a copy of the Constitution and took a damn highlighter to it, complete with margin notes. I don't know if I changed her mind, but sure as hell she left me alone after that.
You did the right thing, and came out ahead. Good Job.

They ask why he didn't get anything done then. I reply that their memory is even shorter than their dick if they can't remember Obamacare, Lilly Ledbetter, Dodd-Frank, and the Consumer Finance Protection Agency.

I point out that they complain of his acheivements every day, then turn around and complain that they don't remember any.

On low information voters and impressionable people who want to believe they're going to be rich, if only more Republicans were elected.

Mine quickly devolve into a racial spew when they see I'm being reasonable and listing facts. Ya gotta love living in Stepford.

Only tragedy can change such bigots.

They've already found the Lord for all the good that did them.

..when they rant about taxes in Republiworld.

In Republiworld, corporations make announcements that they are downsizing due to high taxes. They hear all the time that businesses refer customers to their competitors rather than add staff to meet high demand. The resulting lower profits presumably puts them in a more comfortable tax bracket.

Republiworld is an odd place indeed. It's the home of the pizza in 2 hours or less.

Q. If you are buying a house do you not consider the future quality of the neighborhood that house is in?

Q. Given a flashy impressive car, with high mileage and definite mechanical problems, and a plane unimpressive car with low mileage and good mechanical condition, which one do you finance?

Q. If you cash in part of your equity in a home to re-side your house, do you get the cheap stuff and pocket the difference, or do you buy the highest quality siding goods you can afford?

Q. If you have to re-locate for whatever reason, do you consider communities/neighborhoods without sidewalks, no parks, no mass transit, and few, huge, poor performing schools?

Maybe our whole economy has itself soooooooooooooooo front loaded with debt that businesses can't look at a candidate the same way that they would make the personal finance decisions sketched above. If that's true, digging the hole deeper with no thought but to service short-term goals is only going to make everything worse for the diggers. Nothing will ever get better until we invest in the long-term.

We will be digging America's grave, with the help of the kind of BAD business models that Mitt Romney delivers.

The reason he's getting those collections calls is because of the people he's voting for.

"Don't you see what he's done? We're all decent people. We are. And he's preyed on our weaknesses and our hatred and our greed and our prejudice and our fear. Don't you understand? He runs on hate. And he's used it to turn us all against each other."

That's right. Republicans are using the tactics of the devil.

It was widely accepted that one of the main temptations of the devil was to sell your soul for fame and fortune.

I'm an atheist but recognize the teachings of the Bible involve aspects of human nature that touch on fundamental truths and offer precautions against those who would manipulate the masses for personal gain. Which is actually kind of eerie to think Republicans are using techniques that are about as time tested as possible if there were warnings against it thousands of years ago.

If so, how did you know?
Let it go.
He's hopeless.
The lost....10%.

# Obama's Accomplishments -- A compilation LIST of links regarding President Obama, http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022255

# Real annual corporate profit growth rate 3X higher under Obama than under Reagan, even when measured from the 2008 peak. (both Bushs oversaw profit declines in case you were wondering).
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/10/26/1097301/anti-business-obama-is-is-best-president-for-corporate-profits-since-1900/

Corporate profits: http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2012/10/24/the-best-presidents-for-the-economy.aspx

Also at the above fool.com link - Stock market performance, Average annual real GDP growth per capita, Inflation (average annual change in the Consumer Price Index), Change in unemployment rate during their presidencies,

DU thread I got all the above from (the OP): http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014281054

Stock market up 66% under Obama -- 66% above where it was at the last close before inaugural day (speaking of the S&P 500, as of Friday 10/26/12 close). (It declined 37% from the beginning of the GW Bush presidency to the end of the Bush presidency.). Details: EF 4. at http://www.democraticunderground.com/111622439

My compilation of Economic Facts, particularly an Obama vs. G.W. Bush comparison, with a short section in EF 1 on Romney (e.g. 47th out of 50th in job creation as governor of Massachusetts)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/111622439

Forbes Magazine: Democratic presidents beat Republican ones: Disposable income, GDP, profits, stock market, national debt,...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021593080

In case anyone needs more ammo when arguing with a greed-banger.

If so, congratulations!

Consumer spending has gone up. Typically when consumer spending goes up businesses hire employees. Consumer spending has gone up but hiring has not. I think they are waiting until the election is over. But I don't blame Obama for that. I think corporations are just shirking their responsibilities as usual.