or do something to tell these people that they were lied to? To tell them not to worry?

I frigging hope so.

He's a more psychopathic version of Bush.

I pity the country if they somehow get Romney elected

the more accurate view is that romney is a slightly less charming, slightly more obvious sociopath. the only real difference is in the veneer. if you don't think W was cruel, evil, and selfish you weren't paying attention.

his political days are done.

I agree completely.

by comparing them to Romney?

by comparing Romney to them? No wait, the word "scumbag" is defined as a person of poor judgement and no class. It defines Mitt perfectly.

go away Myth & #Lyinryan

why would anyone vote for a liar.

screw that.... Romney is a &%$*@#!

The fact that he can straight face lie the way he has, scares the hell out of me.... we will be screwn for a very long time if our country helps him follow through with his plan to run this county...

I've found myself saying "if enough American idiots really, truly, and seriously vote this asshole into the Oval Office, they'll deserve everything they get. The only problem with that is, I will, too, and I DON'T deserve it!" NONE of us deserves it. Not even the American idiots.

then bleep out "fucking". Just link to TruthOut.

Win + Win

I have always thought of Romney this way. sleaze, lies and distortions.

Flim Flam Man

Last night I had another uncomfortable experience with a flim flam man. Only this time I caught him in the act. My previous experience with a flim flam man occurred in 2006 when I bought a new car. The salesman was very personable, spent much time gaining our trust before he closed the deal. The only thing that seemed amiss happened when we went to pick up the car. He stood in one spot next to the driver's door while we walked around the car. It turned out he was hiding a crimp in the door, damage that occurred in transit or at the dealership. A defect allowed the door to be extended too far -- so far that the front edge of the door ran into the hinge crimping a quarter inch wide strip like an accordion. Because he hid the defect with his body, we picked up the car and only noticed the damage when we got home. This is a flim flam man. A trickster. And last night I saw another.

Romney was asked about his plans for deductions. The flim flam man responded with a carefully crafted speech that made it appear he said one thing but meant another.

Now, how about deductions? 'Cause I'm going to bring rates down
across the board for everybody, but I'm going to limit deductions and
exemptions and credits, particularly for people at the high end,
because I am not going to have people at the high end pay less than
they're paying now.

The top 5 percent of taxpayers will continue to pay 60 percent of
the income tax the nation collects. So that'll stay the same.

That first part made it clear the people "at the high end" were not going to get a tax break -- until he explained it with
"The top 5 percent of taxpayers will continue to pay 60 percent of the income tax the nation collects."

and he repeated it again:

And I will not - I will not under any circumstances, reduce the
share that's being paid by the highest income taxpayers.

So it's there right in front of you, like a shiny new car, waiting to be embraced. But here's the thing. If "the high end" are going to continue to pay the same share, if the middle class gets a tax cut, the "high end" will too. Otherwise their share would go up and the flim flam man has never said they would pay a greater share. In concrete terms, if the middle class gets a 20% tax break, Mitt's tax rate would have to go from 14% to 11% if his share is to remain the same. And as another recommended diary has pointed out, his target is even lower. The only way to lower Mitt's taxes would be to lower the capital gains rate -- which he plans to eliminate.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/17/1145769/-Flim-Flam-Man

For too long, the rich have received an increasing share of the income. So if their share of taxes are capped, they will pay the same amount while making a larger amount. The reverse will be true for the rest of us. We'll be on the hook for the 40% while making less money.

Just another example of how a flim flam man will try to convince you that day is night and up is down. Of course it will only apply to income and Mitt's personal capital gains will continue to be taxed at a much lower rate. He's always believed corporations are people because he's a person that is a corporation for tax purposes.

The real question is how can anyone lie with such ease? Mitt has taken the Rovian playbook that the masses are stupid, fools and if you keep repeating the lie often enough, they will believe it. While I think that this can work, I don't think it is in Mitt's case because even average people can see how absurd Romeny is:

* The man who made millions outsourcing jobs to China is the one who will "get tough on trade with China."
* After writing an editorial stating the th government should let the US auto industry go bankrupt, President Obama "followed his
ideas on saving it."
* Obamacare is an unconstitutional tax, but my Romenycare was just a "mandate."
* "I'm a moderate Republican" (2002), "I'm a severe conservative." (2012)
* Obama cut $700 million from Medicare benefits (lie), but so does Paul Ryan's budget.
* I won't answer if I would have signed the Lilly Leddetter Act, but I had "binders full of women."

He is simply the most disingenuous man ever to run for president of the USA and people KNOW IT!

Heartless, cruel, inhuman terrorism.

it's the number of people who are voting for him. I've never come to terms with the fact that almost 60 million Americans voted for Sarah Palin. I have no doubt that many people will vote for RMoney. go figure.

SEVENTY TWO PERCENT!

http://www.gallup.com/poll/8038/seventytwo-percent-americans-support-war-against-iraq.aspx

"Iraq is responsible for 9/11," which was already pre-packaged and ready-to-go before 9/11.

"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor".
--Project for the New American Century

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

Post-9/11 call for regime change in Iraq

On September 20, 2001 (nine days after the September 11, 2001 attacks), the PNAC sent a letter to President George W. Bush, advocating "a determined effort to remove Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq," or regime change:

...even if evidence does not link Iraq directly to the attack, any strategy aiming at the eradication of terrorism and its sponsors must include a determined effort to remove Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq. Failure to undertake such an effort will constitute an early and perhaps decisive surrender in the war on international terrorism.

From 2001 through 2002, the co-founders and other members of the PNAC published articles supporting the United States' invasion of Iraq. On its website, the PNAC promoted its point of view that leaving Saddam Hussein in power would be "surrender to terrorism."

In 2003, during the period leading up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the PNAC had seven full-time staff members ...{dedicated to the invasion of Iraq}... in addition to its board of directors.


Yeah, I said it.

Long before cheney*/bush* got anywhere near the White House, plans had already been set in motion to invade Iraq. Remember those super-secret cheney* energy meetings where not only was the agenda "eyes only" security, but so was the guest list: "eyes only" super-secret. It's difficult to subpoena and compel someone to testify if you don't know who to serve the summons. My guess: somewhere in those super-secret meetings, the upcoming invasion of Iraq was discussed.

"so, Dick*, why are you so confident that the United States will be invading Iraq?"

"let's just say, we have insider information."

We label everyone "heroes" and go on with our lives... tax cuts for the rich, wars on credit, broken bodies healing, the dead buried, and everyone is a commando; the weapons and body armour are readily available with a credit card and internet access. A Rmoney presidency would be the nail in our coffin.

...have already signed on to work in the Rmoney/Lyin' mis-administration.

Could you, on the first usage of the term, type out Project for the New American Century (PNAC)? That's the right way to use acronyms. It's most annoying and irksome to have to stop and research what the unreferenced acronym means.

Shocking how uninformed the American public can be. Could it be the MSM isn't doing it's job? she asks in wonder!

I work in the pits of teabagville..... I engage in discussion because I truly am interested in how their minds work. One day they said something that made a little sense to me so I will share it to try and show you how their mind works..

Regarding Obamacare I was told that since I supported the government control and mandate of healthcare to all Americans regardless of their ability to pay and that since I agree that the government should have the power to force Americans to purchase health insurance and claim that somehow that is in their best interests, then you certainly won't have a problem when a future republican president lets say Sarah Palin creates a mandate that all Americans must purchase handguns and rifles and if you don't you get fined by the government.

Their point giving too much control to government will ultimately backfire on all of us, when the government has no money left to subsidize healthcare than the care itself will suffer, government will decide who gets what medical care, remember Obama will no be president forever.

Anyway that's how they explain it... some portions make sense.

that is, until you look at how other countries with national health care manage their programs. Then "Their point giving too much control to government will ultimately backfire on all of us,--" becomes nothing but a scare tactic.

That's an old trick. Compare two things that do not go together.

Teabaggers said Obama should have fixed the economy yesterday, as of the day he went into office they were yelling why hasn't he fixed it- he has been president for 4 days already. (heard it with my own ears)....

THEN they went on to say- the government should stay out of it.

All the while explaining it will take the Repubs 8 years to fix the economy.

They are still making that same statement.

So what are they going to do? Stay out of it?

They think their arguments are clever, but they are just ridiculous.

No solutions are offered.

NOT ONE.

Trolling for suckers.

The man is without scruples and constantly with his pants on fire. I have real issues with Obama from the left but at least he's not a serial liar, a pathological liar - as Willard is.

There are people who would vote for an eggplant if it ran as a republican, there are racists, some are both. Beyond that I can't see how anyone could feel comfortable voting for this creepy rich guy who lies blatantly.

Harry Truman once said Nixon was the only person he ever saw who could talk out of both sides of his mouth and speak lies out of each side, I think Nixon has met his match.

This election reminds me of the pop novel "The Stand" by Stephen King, where after a flu epidemic wipes out most of the population, the survivors are drawn to either of two leaders - the evil Randall Flagg or the saintly Mother Abigail. Pulp fiction, but relevant nonetheless.

I have had issues with Obama over the years, but I don't know what he's been faced with in our psycho Congress. I think he's a decent person.

Rmoney is everything I find base in human nature. I don't think he has a selfless, caring, nurturing molecule in his body. And what's scary is the sheer numbers of people who are willing to vote for it.

for speaking the truth well. And for being kind to me as a newbie, which meant a lot to me after I first joined here. You're a good man. There's many good men and women here, with kind and humorous posts. I appreciate it very much.

..the traitorous rethug party has ever foisted on America, next to Ray-guns anyway.

If the voters in this country are so blinded by hate and greed to actually elect this scumbag liar as President, we will deserve all the destruction he and his fascist party will bring to the 99%!

That is some kind of stinky eye! Great poster!

Please remove Fucking so I can post it.

I don't object to it here or in my private life. However, Facebook is visible to the world, including business associates and potential employers.

BTW, vulgar language doesn't make anything more convincing.

However, it's completely appropriate when hitting your thumb with a hammer or losing a football game.

I wrote it on Facebook and the Everlasting GOP Stoppers made it.

I'll see if they can make an edited one.

yes, he is desparate now and capable of anything!

and if people fall for shit like this without checking the facts, then I guess we all get what they deserve.

At least we now know what he looks like.

Romney could play this character easily..........