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R.I.P. (Original Post) trailmonkee Oct 2012 OP
Oh god demwing Oct 2012 #1
Why? Drale Oct 2012 #2
C'mon, Lucas strangled it to death years ago. Marr Oct 2012 #3
Ha!! 'gettin' freaky with the corpse' trailmonkee Oct 2012 #4
adding my Ha! SoapBox Oct 2012 #8
I wish that *someone* would just release the original, uncut first film BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #5
It was called Star Wars because Drale Oct 2012 #11
I know because I saw it in the theaters in 1977 BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #23
I have it on laserdisc PowerToThePeople Oct 2012 #13
I have the laserdisc set as well BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #26
Maybe on Ebay bongbong Oct 2012 #30
I can honestly say I've never watched the mutherfuker madokie Oct 2012 #6
... cynatnite Oct 2012 #7
I always win at the party game "I have never..." Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2012 #9
are you sure? hfojvt Oct 2012 #25
don't make me do it! Don't want to lie when I play the game. I Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2012 #29
Fucksake, did you SEE Episode One? Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #10
NOOOOOOOO!!!! trailmonkee Oct 2012 #12
Here, use this jeff47 Oct 2012 #17
You Mentioned That Which Should Never Have Been. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #24
Disney to release Sat AM cartoon show longship Oct 2012 #14
Most awesome description of "Star Wars" ever: Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #15
Malcolm is my hero. A Scottish Rahm (nt) Recursion Oct 2012 #18
Oh fuck! Iggo Oct 2012 #27
This is the absolute best thing that could happen to the franchise Recursion Oct 2012 #16
Agree - after the orginal "Special Editions" that Lucas messed up, I wasn't looking cbdo2007 Oct 2012 #20
It might look something like this. jeff47 Oct 2012 #19
I am looking forward hfojvt Oct 2012 #21
Please, George Lucas ruined this series obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #22
I can't get too sentimental about apalling shit cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #28
 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
1. Oh god
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:25 PM
Oct 2012

Disney will be the best thing that has ever happened to the franchise. I submit the Marvel movies and the PotC movies and compare them to the turds that Lucas has been dropping since the Empire Strikes Back...

Drale

(7,932 posts)
2. Why?
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:26 PM
Oct 2012

Marvel movies sucked until Disney bought Marvel and they did a good job with the Pirates movies. Who's to say the they won't do a good job with Star Wars? The entire expanded universe is written by people other than Lucas and I think they've done a pretty damn good job. Lucas fucked up the prequels, especially Phantom Menace.

BumRushDaShow

(129,491 posts)
5. I wish that *someone* would just release the original, uncut first film
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:27 PM
Oct 2012

that was NOT called "Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope" but was called "Star Wars". Period.

Where Jabba the Hutt was a humanoid, Han shot Greedo just as Greedo was raising his blaster, and Luke saw the battle for Leia's ship from the ground.

Just. Do. It.

Drale

(7,932 posts)
11. It was called Star Wars because
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:34 PM
Oct 2012

they had no idea whether it would be a hit or not and if it bombed it would end up being a one shot. Jabba was originally humanoid but was never in the first film in theaters, that was cut because Lucas wanted Jabba to be more alien and they didn't have the tech to do that scene with the big slug. Han did shoot first. I've never seen a scene cut or uncut in which Luke sees the battle from the ground.

BumRushDaShow

(129,491 posts)
23. I know because I saw it in the theaters in 1977
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:16 PM
Oct 2012

10 times as a high schooler and could see it at a $1 Saturday matinée.

And it has been a struggle to watch how much revision has been done to it and worse, the revision of history itself regarding how it was originally advertised, which is not what they claim about it today.

Regarding Luke seeing the battle, last year I finally found some Youtube clips that have been posted showing him looking up at the sky with his binoculars, sees the blue and red streaks, and then rushes off to find his buddies in Anchorhead. There are now Youtube uploads have trickled out showing the cut Biggs scene once Luke gets there.



This is it in color but the droid didn't have the dialog dubbed in as shown below -



From what I understand having researched it over the years, there were apparently several versions of the movie sent to theaters back then - something like an "A", "B", "C", etc. and I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually settled on one of them to use as "the" version later.... sortof along the line of how they have audiences "preview" films for feedback and eventually go back and alter the test versions into what is later put out for general release.
 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
13. I have it on laserdisc
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:45 PM
Oct 2012

Get me a decent video capture card and I'll rip it and share it. Han still shoots first.

(Just joking Disney, don't sent the DMCA blackhats after me.)

No really, I should do this.

(Seriously, I would never do this Disney. I am just trolling you)

Edit - I guess it is New Hope, not labeled that way. But there is certainly no humanoid Jaba in it.

BumRushDaShow

(129,491 posts)
26. I have the laserdisc set as well
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:31 PM
Oct 2012

With the 10 discs, as that was the only way to get the movie in AC3-Dolby Digital at the time - before there was any DVD technology. And in that version, he added stuff to each of the 3 films.

The remastered VHS version (sold around Halloween back in the mid-90s if I recall correctly) seemed to me to be the best "compromise" release as a cleaned up version of the original VHS release (both of which I have). But that release was only Dolby Stereo.

I think either the DVD release or one of the specials, showed the original Jabba the Hutt and how they altered the scene to overlay a computer-generated Return of the Jedi slug Jabba over top of the human actor. the original that I saw in theater in 1977 had Jabba like this -



I noted in my other post that I wouldn't be surprised if the version of the film that I saw was one of several versions out there that were eventually whittled down to be "the" film.
 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
30. Maybe on Ebay
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 02:52 PM
Oct 2012

Some of the early VHS copies are the original. I've never looked for them but they are supposed to exist.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
6. I can honestly say I've never watched the mutherfuker
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:28 PM
Oct 2012

Never felt like I wanted to either.
The commercials was enough for me.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
9. I always win at the party game "I have never..."
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:32 PM
Oct 2012

because I have never seen a single second of any Star Wars movie.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
29. don't make me do it! Don't want to lie when I play the game. I
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 02:38 PM
Oct 2012

can't take a second of fantasy or science fiction....must be a brain thing. Might as well throw in dolphin shows and circus stuff too.

Have you ever played "I have never...." It's a really fun party game now that the holidays are coming up. Everyone starts with 4 quarters and there is a hat.

Then people take a turn and you say, "I have never seen a Star Wars movie." (honor system). Then, everyone who HAS seen it has to put a quarter in the hat....on and on until the last person with at least a quarter left wins the pot.

It can get pretty juicy, especially if alcohol is involved. Like "I am not a member of the mile high club", "I have never done it in a car.", etc. etc.

My husband is so honest, I couldn't be mad. He put a quarter in when someone said "I have never looked at any porn at work"

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
24. You Mentioned That Which Should Never Have Been.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:24 PM
Oct 2012

There is no punishment too great for your transgression.

longship

(40,416 posts)
14. Disney to release Sat AM cartoon show
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:48 PM
Oct 2012
Jar-Jar and Ewocks vs. The Empire.

The perfect exploitation using the worst dregs of the series.

Oh, almost forgot...

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
15. Most awesome description of "Star Wars" ever:
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:52 PM
Oct 2012


"What's that film you like? the one about the space hairdresser and the cowboy? He's got a tinfoil pal and a pedal-bin, his father's a robot and he's fucked his sister and they're all made of Lego"

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
16. This is the absolute best thing that could happen to the franchise
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:00 PM
Oct 2012

Please let somebody other than Lucas make the next 3.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
20. Agree - after the orginal "Special Editions" that Lucas messed up, I wasn't looking
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:03 PM
Oct 2012

forward to the 3 prequels at all because I knew they'd be goofy and cartoony.

Now though with a fresh set of eyes and writers and directors with their own visions, this can be like the Batman films or something and someone can revive the series. I actually have A New Hope here that Star Wars may return to glory after all these years.

obamanut2012

(26,142 posts)
22. Please, George Lucas ruined this series
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:11 PM
Oct 2012

Disney sure as hell won;t do worse, and if they don;t allow Lucas to write a word of any future scripts, they will do better.

I would rather have had Nemo be Padme's Senator instead of Jar Jar.

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