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maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 05:04 PM Oct 2012

I'm confused. Where are the Republics getting this "Incompetence" attack?

I keep seeing it - Obama's incompetent, he's in over his head (Limbaugh). Obama is "retard" (Ann Coulter). He's not that smart. It shows up on Facebook all the time, too.

What are they basing this on? Because they're seeing something I sure as hell DON'T see. The man graduated Harvard Law.

It is Benghazi? Does it predate that? Is it his measured responses to questions? The "uhhhhs..."?

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I'm confused. Where are the Republics getting this "Incompetence" attack? (Original Post) maxsolomon Oct 2012 OP
They make things up, max; always have!!! elleng Oct 2012 #1
Oxymoron: They accuse him of being an incompetent who knows how to control the weather. Zen Democrat Oct 2012 #2
+1 ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #14
Boom goes the dynamite. hifiguy Nov 2012 #51
From Ru$h Limbaugh's rectum Blue Owl Oct 2012 #3
They're pulling it out of their asses, of course. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2012 #4
Honestly, Sir --- That Man Is a Negro.... The Magistrate Oct 2012 #5
Sir, that is it in a nutshell madokie Oct 2012 #9
an affirmative action hire TDale313 Oct 2012 #17
Exactly. moondust Nov 2012 #55
It's Faux News Politicalboi Oct 2012 #6
They're following the example of cloudbase Oct 2012 #7
Faux tells them what to say and they've been saying it since Obama showed up on their radar. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #8
Comes from bolts of whole cloth (aisle 4) DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2012 #10
BECAUSE juliann9494 Oct 2012 #11
HE'S Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2012 #12
BLACK Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2012 #13
BINGO! eom tledford Nov 2012 #59
It predates Benghazi by over a century Scootaloo Oct 2012 #15
TRUTH. SubgeniusHasSlack Oct 2012 #26
My god, you are only 3 or 4 years older than me... Odin2005 Nov 2012 #53
I don't know why I am shocked by this, but I am. SalviaBlue Nov 2012 #54
he is Black JI7 Oct 2012 #16
ding, ding, ding...here is the correct answer! GumboYaYa Oct 2012 #18
It has to be more than "just" Race maxsolomon Oct 2012 #19
McCain is a WAr Monger and bitter over 2008 loss JI7 Oct 2012 #20
McCain is still angry that a Black Man beat him like a drum. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #24
Unhinged treestar Nov 2012 #40
They are just going for broke Still Sensible Oct 2012 #21
Their narcissist fantasy universe is crashing down on them SubgeniusHasSlack Oct 2012 #22
That and "failed foreign policy" loyalsister Oct 2012 #23
they always are what they accuse others of ThomThom Oct 2012 #25
Projection, SubgeniusHasSlack Oct 2012 #29
thanks true it (nt) ThomThom Nov 2012 #36
Projection. Accuse the other side of whatever you're guilty of. TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #27
Seeing your faults in everyone else around you. lindysalsagal Nov 2012 #49
He's allegedly a lazy Negro who's been working tirelessly to destroy America Alekei_Firebird Oct 2012 #28
Textbook Demonstration Of How The "Big Lie" Works... KharmaTrain Oct 2012 #30
^^^ Excellent post ^^^ oswaldactedalone Oct 2012 #31
Projection. Matariki Oct 2012 #32
Herman Cain, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams and even Alan West are highly regarded by the same gang win_in_06 Oct 2012 #33
No they're not. Scootaloo Nov 2012 #35
Sounds like you think the people I listed are idiots. win_in_06 Nov 2012 #42
there's seeing the world differently maxsolomon Nov 2012 #52
No, I simply don't think the GOP values them for their input Scootaloo Nov 2012 #58
I actually agree with you kwolf68 Nov 2012 #47
Mirrors. Richard D Oct 2012 #34
It's classic projection. Zoeisright Nov 2012 #37
They still think it's 2005. nt Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #38
They were going to say this regardless treestar Nov 2012 #39
Of course Bush WAS incompetent. nt progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #44
Presidenting While Black. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #41
it's called FAXED talking points. He's black = he's in over his head. nt progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #43
Right here. Octafish Nov 2012 #45
Rove's old strategy of attacking the strong point rustydog Nov 2012 #46
Racism. Odin2005 Nov 2012 #48
Must be Opposite Day. AtomicKitten Nov 2012 #50
Please don't forget Queen Ann's "we need a grown-up" Fla Dem Nov 2012 #56
He's black. Arkana Nov 2012 #57

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,858 posts)
4. They're pulling it out of their asses, of course.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 05:06 PM
Oct 2012

Also, he's black. How can a black guy possibly be competent?

moondust

(20,006 posts)
55. Exactly.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 01:05 PM
Nov 2012

And if Romney should somehow win, a loud narrative on the right going forward, probably covered by the MSM, will be that the minority President was in over his head and the country cannot afford to take that chance again. Thank God Americans woke up in time and got rid of him before it was too late!

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)
8. Faux tells them what to say and they've been saying it since Obama showed up on their radar.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 05:08 PM
Oct 2012

They're just evil Pied Pipers and are followed by mindless rats.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
10. Comes from bolts of whole cloth (aisle 4)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 05:09 PM
Oct 2012

The right has learned from the Rove/WBush school of "say it enough times, and it's true". This is how Biden lost the VP debate. Sure, it may have looked to you and me and millions of others like Biden was kicking that punk's ass all over the stage, but later, it was revealed that Biden was unhinged, over-aggressive, and soundly beaten by Paul Ryan.

We've always been at war with EastAsia.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
15. It predates Benghazi by over a century
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 05:13 PM
Oct 2012

When I was in 9th grade, we studied state history; Alabama state history, to be precise. What our books taught us - and this was 1997, mind you - was that during Reconstruction, the "Carpetbaggers" from the north forced black people into state legislatures. We also learned that black people just couldn't do it. They were just inherently incompetent and everything fell apart, so the southern states had to, just had to enact laws to remove these negro politicians and bar others from voting. It was for the good of everyone, we learned from the books.

To her credit, our teacher - a black woman presiding over a mostly-black class in a predominantly black school district - called bullshit, and used the book's "lesson" as an example of source bias.

But this is what a lot of people grew up learning... and maybe many still do. They learn that reconstruction was a failure, and that black people caused the failure through inherent incompetence.

The Republican's "incompetence" attack on Barack Obama has nothing to so at all with his performance and actions. it has to do with them knowing, in the core of their guts, that black people can't govern.

 

SubgeniusHasSlack

(276 posts)
26. TRUTH.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 05:26 PM
Oct 2012

Well spoken analysis.

The change from inherent social racism to enlightenment will continue to be steady but slow.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
53. My god, you are only 3 or 4 years older than me...
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 12:52 PM
Nov 2012

And here in Minnesota we never had any of that racist-apology BS in OUR textbooks!

SalviaBlue

(2,918 posts)
54. I don't know why I am shocked by this, but I am.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 01:04 PM
Nov 2012

Thank God for your SANE teacher. I sorta feel sorry for all of people who believe this ignorance.

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
19. It has to be more than "just" Race
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 05:20 PM
Oct 2012

Isn't there something they're citing? MCain is using Benghazi:

“This president is either engaged in a massive cover-up deceiving the American people or he is so grossly incompetent that he is not qualified to be the commander in chief of our armed forces,” McCain said Oct. 30 during a hurricane-relief event in Ohio hosted by this year’s GOP presidential nominee, Mitt Romney. “It’s either one of them.”

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
24. McCain is still angry that a Black Man beat him like a drum.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 05:25 PM
Oct 2012

It's eating him up inside like acid.

Plus, he's a senile old fool who isn't entirely lucid anymore.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
40. Unhinged
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 12:01 PM
Nov 2012

Rs will say anything. They think saying something out loud gives it tangibility. They're making this one up out of whole cloth. Forgetting the many attacks made on embassies while Shrub was in office. Take each of those apart and you would find real incompetence.

Still Sensible

(2,870 posts)
21. They are just going for broke
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 05:23 PM
Oct 2012

Unfortunately, it seemed to work with President Carter... not that he was not competent, but a series of events, his style and IMO missteps by people he surrounded himself with, helped create a somewhat widely held perception that was reflected in the 1980 election.

They started down the incompetence path with Big Dawg, but among their minions they got a lot more traction out of the immorality line of attack and played that for all it was worth up to and including impeachment. Not only did they fail to get him out of office, he left the White House with very high public approval ratings.

They have gone back to the incompetence meme since the President won in '08. It was a pretty big part of their anti-Obama campaign that year playing up the junior senator from Illinois inexperience. They thought all along that they could pull the card while attacking the slow recovery and his "failed economic policies." I
really think they have thought making him a one-term President was going to be pretty easy.

They were and are wrong.

 

SubgeniusHasSlack

(276 posts)
22. Their narcissist fantasy universe is crashing down on them
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 05:24 PM
Oct 2012

as The President's landslide victory moves America forward and washes the teabagiban party away to irrelevance.

The rotund governor from New Jersey sees this all too clearly and is obviously running to be the leader of the slightly less bat guano crazy republickcon remnant that survives the romnocalypse.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
23. That and "failed foreign policy"
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 05:25 PM
Oct 2012

Two lies they hope telling enough will make them true in the eyes of voters

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
30. Textbook Demonstration Of How The "Big Lie" Works...
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 05:29 PM
Oct 2012

These memes have been screamed and beaten to death on hate radio 24/7 since President Obama won the '08 election. The great unhinged created their own narrative of how President Obama was/is everything we used to project (properly) on Dubya. It's grown and manifested to the stupidity and outright paranoia that spews from faux and hate radio...

oswaldactedalone

(3,491 posts)
31. ^^^ Excellent post ^^^
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 05:41 PM
Oct 2012

Hate radio is what motivated me to become active in campaigning for Dems. I like the fact that in some small way the vote totals for our guys are higher because I helped get folks to the polls in one way or another.

Multiply that by many and you send a message to those bastards that we'll fight them wherever they want to fight.

win_in_06

(1,764 posts)
33. Herman Cain, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams and even Alan West are highly regarded by the same gang
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 05:47 PM
Oct 2012

JC Watts, Condolezza Rice, Mia Love, Clarence Thomas, et al. So I don't attribute it to race. Rather, ideology.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
35. No they're not.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 01:08 AM
Nov 2012

These men and women aren't valued by hte right for their ideology or their intellectual output. They are not valued as individuals whith thoughts and opinions of their own - look at how the right-wingers react when Colin Powell or even Condi Rice voice opinions that don't follow the narrative: they're trashed and denigrated because of hteir skin color.

These men and women, heaven help them, might think the Republicans value them. But for most of the party, the sole purpose to their existence is so the Republicans can go "Hey look we have black people too!"

And of course, there's the Bill Cosby argument; "A black person said blacks are lazy freeloaders, so it's okay for all of us white people to say it too!"

Black Republicans exist primarily as "shields" for other Republicans to justify their overt racism.

win_in_06

(1,764 posts)
42. Sounds like you think the people I listed are idiots.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 12:38 PM
Nov 2012

Like them or not, you can't possibly think that. Some people just see the world differently than we do, and that's okay.

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
52. there's seeing the world differently
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 12:52 PM
Nov 2012

and there's seeing the world incorrectly, through lenses of willfull ignorance.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
58. No, I simply don't think the GOP values them for their input
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 02:48 PM
Nov 2012

The GOP values them (such as it is) because it gives the rest of the GOP a cover for their blatant racism.

"No no guys, it's cool; some of my friends are black"

kwolf68

(7,365 posts)
47. I actually agree with you
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 12:46 PM
Nov 2012

For sure, there are plenty of racists and that drives much of the Republican Party thinking, but it doesn't explain it all. John Kerry was destroyed by these people and he was not black.

These people don't hate blacks or Muslims or whoever NEAR as much as someone who simply is Liberal.

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
37. It's classic projection.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 11:40 AM
Nov 2012

Since everyone you mentioned there is dumber than shit, they project that onto the smart President.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
39. They were going to say this regardless
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 11:57 AM
Nov 2012

We said it about Bush. They just consider it fighting back. They are incompetent when it comes to making a case for their candidate, especially considering that there is no case for their candidate.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
41. Presidenting While Black.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 12:03 PM
Nov 2012

Srsly. Several fb "friends" have been posting about how Obama is incompetent and a disaster. When I try to pin them down, they are unable to provide a si.gle example. So it amounts to racism, but they won't come out and say it publically.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
46. Rove's old strategy of attacking the strong point
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 12:40 PM
Nov 2012

That is what Swift-boating Kerry was all about. Bush was a draft-dodger, Kerry a war hero.
They attacked the strong point.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
50. Must be Opposite Day.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 12:48 PM
Nov 2012

Either that or they are fully invested in Karl Rove's strategery of attacking an opponent's strength.

Fla Dem

(23,753 posts)
56. Please don't forget Queen Ann's "we need a grown-up"
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 01:08 PM
Nov 2012

Ann Romney earlier this year at a private fundraiser described Mitt Romney as the "grown-up" the country needs to repair the economy and prevent an economic collapse in the style of Greece.................

"This is a frightening world, and we need a grown-up, and we need someone that understands the economy. So I'm glad Mitt is grown-up to you all."

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/264619-ann-romney-america-needs-a-grown-up-who-understands-the-economy-

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
57. He's black.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 01:10 PM
Nov 2012

There it is, plain and simple.

A black man cannot possibly execute the office of the Presidency well in their minds, ergo, he's incompetent due to excessive blackness.

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