It's people without jobs , without healthcare and having a living wage.

right now climate change is a non issue for most people.
That's the reality of it.
There is no Al Gore in the spotlight running for President so he can bring it up.

Obama in fact very rarely talks about it even though we all know he deeply believes in it.

He knows it's jobs being outsourced and lost , health care costs and wages.

Right now that's what middle class people care about.
They are not thinking big picture

he is completely out of touch and has no fucking clue... I think the ad gets that point across very well

... He is and how foolish he is being.

The fact that he made fun of Obama and climate change, in particular, "the oceans rising" makes Romney look like the dumb fuck that he is in full technicolor.

He's detestably stupid.

maybe on of those days Zomney will get that airplane window open.



Just hope he's the only one on board.

I hope that princess Ann is with him👿 I totally hate that woman!

Have to admit, everything I heard about her (or from her) would have me running the other way.

That so many of our fellow citizens can't - or won't - see it.

if you don't have income ... because Mitt Romney sent your job to China ...

I do believe in the waning last very few days, thanks to Sandy, climate change has clawed back up into the national consciousness. NYC Mayor Bloomberg endorsed Obama yesterday for that very reason.

It was a big issue when Gore ran because of the good economy under Bill Clinton.

People can focus when they aren't worrying about losing their job.

Not to mention, do you know how many jobs just acknowledging climate change will create?

It is a non issue in this election cycle and the people where this is a number one priority already were voting for Obama.

That's really not people he needs to reach right now.

Those two states are pretty close. A little wake-up there could matter.

The rest of us saw it on the TeeVee. And nobody (nobody!) thinks a Republican President would help people more in a natural disaster.

and let people die

The jobs of the future are in taking care of our infrastructure -- strengthening it against the problems that will come with climate change.

I think the video cuts of the storm make that clear.

Right now, there will be lots of jobs rebuilding the homes and infrastructure that Sandy destroyed. And we have to hire people to build the kind of new energy infrastructure we will need to live in the reality that climate change will build.

Mitt has never explained to us how he plans to create jobs. He seems to think it will happen magically. It won't. We are not going to be able to create manufacturing jobs, for example, unless we find energy sources that are clean and will allow us to produce goods without ruining the environment. We don't just have to find new energy sources. We have to find new ways to feed people that are more environmentally friendly and new materials with which to make things we need.

But what I posted in this thread is valid also.

It's understood that you don't think climate change is a pressing issue in this election. That said, Climate Silence is free to advertise on whatever subject they wish.

My favorite form of alternative energy is not having to go anywhere. We have machines that plant food, machines that harvest food, machines that process food; we need to decentralize some of these things so that we aren't driving food all over the country. There are a lot of people who really only need their basic needs met; why is it so important that they have a job?

We need to rethink this whole idea of 'creating jobs' and figure out how we want to take care of each other. If we have machines that replace the labor of 10,000 people; why is it so important that we make sure those 10,000 people have some other menial task to occupy their time?

How many people have to work to make car payments, pay for day care, purchase clothing appropriate for work and food. Things that used to be taken care of by the family unit or wouldn't be necessary if they weren't a two income family. I'm not suggesting we put women back into the kitchen 'barefoot and pregnant'; how many men wouldn't like to stay at home, get the kids off the bus, grow their own food, raise chickens, milk a cow, do the canning, fix the meals etc.

We need to rebuild a sense of community and build it around alternative energies; if you remove the costs of the non-renewable energy and the devices that use them out of the family budget, to include the other 'mandatory' things like auto insurance, home interest, student loan debt, the things that only make the wealthy wealthier; we could all have a pretty good life without nearly the effort.

We need to change our thinking.

....especially where you point out how our civilization has progressed so far as to be easily able to provide all of the things that we need, without everyone needing to work at a job. I think that the people who are motivated to work at a job should be rewarded to an extent that is greater than those who do not, but I also look forward to the day when those who choose to live closer to the earth and seek out a spiritual meaning in their existence, will be provided for as well by our society.

I am recently retired and am now surviving on the pittance that comes to me from my social security insurance. My life is hard, but still I am provided for. The joy that I have found through finally having the time to occupy my mind with the things that are of importance to me is immeasurable. My only regret is that I was not able to spend my entire life living in this manner.

I know that for some, my life would be torture. They are the ones who want and need to work while advancing their careers, as they struggle, fight and claw their way to the top of the hill. For them, the meaning in their existence is determined by how well they can compete against, or destroy all others around them who stand in their way. Let them be rewarded to a level beyond all others for the ways that they have chosen to spend their lives in the preservation and sustentation of our society.

for jobs along with our responsibility to the whole planet and those who live on it. Its a economic and moral issue. Through reduced demand and increased efficiency we not only reduce our footprint but also our dependency on some of the major mega corporations that work against our efforts..

Lets make it important to them, as if their lives depends on it !

and Mittwit has flip flopped on it but his most recent flop makes him look uncaring about it.

There are somewhere around 100 fewer lives because of it.

*disclaimer... by higher power I mean 'whatever the fuck caused this thing!' (not necessarily of a supernatural or religious order)

By the time the next election comes around climate change is likely to be the number one issue, we should be talking about it far more than we are now.

Why do you think that is?

"Green jobs" "Clean energy" etc...Obama in nearly every speech and debates...

Same way rebugs didn't use the N word.

but he knows it's about jobs.
That's why climate change is on the back burner in this type of economy.
I agree it will create jobs but the President is smart enough to know not to talk too much about climate change.

You might think most people care but they don't. Put money in their pockets , have them have a secure future, let them know their health care will be fine and then more people will listen about climate change.

Someone who just had his job outsourced doesn't want to hear about climate change.
He wants to hear the President talk about the economy.

As I said it was a huge issue when Gore ran , why? a great economy under Clinton

this won't be the last Sandy. Mother Earth is going to start protecting herself against the avarice of the carbon based infestation. That last little bit is from Star Trek: The Movie. Just couldn't help it. Yep I am part of it and if I end up a man down, then so be it. It will be my bad luck to have been born into a world of incredible greed and shortsightedness.

it is.

And you think that's a good plan for the President in swing states?

Obama has a strong argument in this column now 'climate change' as well as 'jobs' 'reproductive rights' 'immigration' 'education', etc.... why not 'climate change' as well?

and so many other issues.

Because it has terrible ramifications for the future. I understand the issues of jobs and healthcare, etc being at the top of people's concerns, but it really pales in comparison.

Problem is, not only for individuals to grasp, but whole governments, is that to "fix" the problem will require radical changes in the way we live and in the way economies and governments are run.

Its sort of like comprehending the size of the universe to most and is too big to address right now.

climate change as his number one platform, I'm okay with that. He can do a lot for green jobs when he wins the election.

In four years it will be a major topic and this add will help the Democrats.

all along. Mayor Bloomberg just endorsed this President, stating that his main reason was, guess what? Climate Change. The time for denial was over long ago, but the Far Right, doing the work of Big Corporations, have continued to deny the biggest threat to this planet ever.

The endorsement of Bloomberg based on this issue brought it into the forefront of this campaign and made a very big issue.

Too bad we needed yet another killer storm to get this issue up front, but better late than never.

Romney is worse than the ignorami who watch Faux and listen to Limbaugh, because he KNOWS it is a major issue and is willing to lie about it. They are too indoctrinated and ignorant to understand the issue so they can be excused to some extent. But not Romney. He changed his rhetoric on Climate Change as Bloomberg pointed out, for political reasons. That is reprehensible.

More living wages, and less need for healthcare, because there would be fewer ailments from air and water pollution!

spent on disaster relieve and climate catastrophes is a dollar not spent on jobs, health care and raising incomes to a living wage. Nothing hangs alone and all the issues facing us are just different facets of the one: how to respond to human needs in a sustainable commonsensical way.

regardless of what the conventional wisdom of pundits and such says.

It is now, and as much as the corporate and political elites would like it otherwise, nature cannot be bought and so is unlikely to cooperate

...Americans, even the Climate Change deniers.....reality now is that people are seeing right before their very eyes what the ICCC Scientists have been warning about. This is a preview of what is going to be coming more frequently. And the reason "former REPUBLICANS" like Bloomberg come out and endorse Obama is because they see the writing on the wall - that we need leadership that understands the seriousness of Global Climate Change, the importance of the role of the Federal Government in assistance and more importantly NOT DENYING IT and re-building our entire INFRASTRUCTURE to prepare and deal better with it.

And the choice: A President who recognizes this and will do something about it versus a Climate Change Denier who makes jokes about climate Change to his laughing minions about rising oceans and who thinks the Federal Govt should be smaller and its the states and private business controlling and in charge.

That's the Choice...and I disagree that Climate Change isn't an issue in this election....its now THE ISSUE!!!!! Because even though the issues of jobs and the economy are at the forefront of people's minds, those issues are directly impacted by the Climate Change Issue.

Climate change if not addressed, acknowledged and moved on will not only kill areas of production like food or habitation but jobs as well. There's nothing we can do to change what we have pumped into the atmosphere already, but surely we can create Green jobs out of this mess by embracing solar, wind and world reforestation more than we already have.

AND WOW!

How the hell can people have stayed ? .... Are they going to halt the surge with their bare hands ?

ALL I would need is a warning that this is a strong storm with a likelihood of surge flooding .... Not even a 'superstorm' .... Not even 'Stormaggeddon !' ..... Just a regular old hurricane running into a regular old nor'easter ....

I would have looked at my kids, and told them;

"Your life is so precious to me - Go pack a bag and grab a few of your favorite toys .... Daddy will grab the important papers and family pictures and valuables and pack them in the car ..... We have two hours, now git! ..."

There was ample warning for this .... There was plenty of warning that this storm was extraordinary in power and peril ... There was enough time to leave ....

I am so fucking angry that parents would risk the lives of their precious family in order to 'have balls' ....

My balls would have been planted in the driver's seat, singing stupid songs with the kids and wife as we drove away to safety ....

don't even have a driver's license.

We're talking about millions of people here. Where would they go?

They'd be walking, so where would they go?

Dude, shut up.

You don't know what you're talking about.

That's a bit of attitude there.

Do you live in New York?

Do you have the statistics of how many people have cars there?

Where would they go?

It's not like there were evacuation buses and shelters set up in safe areas. Hell they didn't even know where the safe areas would be!

My apology and the information you're asking for are in Post 129.

I'm from New York.

I left there when I was 23 or 24 - without a driver's license or a clue about how to operate that particular piece of machinery. Nobody I knew had a license, either. Nobody in my high school. Nobody.

Why would you have a car in New York, or even want one? Your choices are to drive a piece of crap so it doesn't get stolen, spend endless hours trying to keep it repaired, and half of eternity cruising around trying to find a place to park... OR paying a price for garage parking which, in most parts of this country, would cover the average mortgage.

All that; in a city with the most pervasive and complete public transportation in the country.

Why would a rational person do that?

I finally settled in Minneapolis, although I didn't actually get a license to drive until I was almost 30.

Seriously - with all due respect - you don't know what you're talking about.

Note: Many, many, many adults in NYC do NOT have cars and do NOT have driver's licenses.

Car ownership per household in New York City is at 46%, which means that most households do not have a car.

More importantly, I was very rude in my response, and I apologize to you for that.

I grew up in an area of Queens where most people have cars (about 85% of households), and that anecdotal experience is borne out by the data. See the map at this link:

http://www.streetsblog.org/2011/04/06/new-yorks-car-ownership-rate-is-on-the-rise/

I would also say that some of the areas most affected are majority car owning households. No area in Staten Island, for instance, has less than 70% car ownership per household, and some of the most affected areas have 90% car ownership.

So, two points to account for my rude behavior:

1) I have an itchy Outer Borough trigger finger for people who think NYC = Manhattan. The lowest car ownership per household is, of course, in Manhattan (sometimes reaching 70 or 80% car-free households) and poorer sections of Brooklyn. What I was reacting to was probably the feeling among non-New Yorkers that NYC looks like Manhattan. In fact, there are vibrant car cultures throughout the Outer Boroughs, and, as indicated, many areas in the Outer Boroughs reach 90% car ownership per household.

2) My nerves are frayed. My parents and friends and family are all in the middle of this shit, and I'm stuck 800+ miles away, looking at the situation on television. I've never felt so disconnected from my place.

So, those are the statistics, but, more importantly, this is my apology for treating you shabbily.

Cheers.

that type attitude is unnecessary here. We are all entitled to have an opinion. You won't last long here speaking to people like that. And yeah, lots of people DON"T have car or license to operate. I would be afraid to leave my home to nature and/or opportunist after natures wrath.

or in the coastal regions of NJ don't have cars ....

In the city ? ... yes .... and while there was great property damage in the city, most of the destruction was beyond the city limits ...

I am speaking in large part about those close to the Jersey shore that chose to stick it out with their kids in the house ... Those on Staten Island, which was in the direct path, and was always known to be in the direct path of a surge event in NY Harbor ...

The folks in NYC that do not have cars had fewer options, but to state that 'most of those people' could not do anything to save their lives, or to say that 'most of those people' had no option to leave or anyplace to go, is unfounded and unwarranted.

"Most of those people" did not live in NYC .... The horror stories I have heard involved those who live in a flood zone, who chose to stay, knowing it was coming, and thinking they could ride it out .... My point is: Those that did stay, placing their own children in harm's way, based essentially on a wager that they could beat the odds ... Well, I have little respect for anybody who would do this ....

It isn't heroic ... It is selfish ....

But they have a wholly different character than Manhattan - They are more car-centric ...

I was born in Lodi, New Jersey to an Italian mom who was born in Flatbush, and who lived in Greenpoint WAY before it was cool to live there .... I have family on Staten Island, AND in Farmington, East Meadow, Lyndenhurst, Brooklyn AND Manhattan .... and while it has been decades since I lived there, I will always be a New Yorker at heart ....

I saw Sandy Koufax pitch in Yankee Stadium, and the Met's play in the Polo Grounds .... I saw the World's Fair, and visited Shea when it first opened .... I had hats and banners for both teams in my room : I enjoyed the battle between Mantle and Maris in real time ....

NYC is my homeland ... my cultural milieu ... my identification ....

So yeah, I know it's a world of taxi cabs, buses and subways, but one of those cabs or buses would of dropped us off at a cheap ass motel in Yonkers, or White Plains, or Nyack ... some how .. some way .... We would have left the flood zone ...

And what if the storm had passed your house by? Do you think your boss would have accepted the excuse that you were rescuing your family from a storm that did not affect your area when you didn't show up for work?

I would have called my eldest daughter in Ohio, and drove straight through ....

I would have went inland, to a shelter .... If I didn't have a car, I would have taken the bus ....

ANYWHERE and ANYWAY to keep my kids safe ....

Boss ? .... We are talking about life or death, here .... One step more important than a paycheck ..... What boss would demand you stay in a dangerous zone and drive through treacherous roads to make some fucking widgets ? ..... FUCK that boss; I don't work for him ....

I live in Oregon, and I watched it coming for a week ... the last place my kids are staying is in front of a giant storm of monstrous proportions .... We are outta there ....

what happens if a person doesn't have a relative in ohio or anywhere else. Some people on here are really judgmental about others when they can't speak to the circumstances of those others. What boss? The one who values profit over human life. None like that? Look at the Rethug nominee. This evil clown would be that type of boss. A little more leeway in judging other people would help. Just my small opinion, nothing else. You are entitled.

Mitt looks like a smug horses ass

I just HATE that man...hate hate hate!

Heavy

the President with his damn smug smirk. Where's your smirk now, mitt?????

From Change.Org

...admitted that climate change us real and that it is man made?

There is audio of it because I heard it on the radio a couple of times. During the Republican primary, Glenn Beck was making fun of Mitt for agreeing with climate change.

There's also audio of Mitt denying the existence of climate change. Of course.

It makes it look like we're blaming Romney for Sandy, and the editing and lack of date/time stamps make it look as if Romney is speaking as Sandy unfolds.

I don't cheer when their side does crap like this and I'm not cheering when we do.

Bad, dishonest ad.

I hope few people see it. It has the potential to harm us more than them.

My $.02

It makes it look like Romney has been in denial about the impact of climate change, nothing more.

The ad juxtaposes Mitt's dismissive attitude toward climate change against the stark reality that we are facing. Lack of time stamps? Time stamps? Give me a break. I realize a good portion of the electorate is stupid beyond definition, but most of us get it. The ad illustrates that like Romney doesn't give a rat's ass about climate change. There is nothing dishonest about that.

The point of the ad is very clear-climate change is not a joke. Furthermore, it's not an official Obama ad.
People concerned about climate change made it.

Geez.

??? In no way is it dishonest.... It is making a clear point that this man doesn't know his head from his ass... If you are saying that there is proof that Mitt Romney does know his head from his ass... than I would agree with you... but everybody knows Mitt Romney Doesn't Know His Head From His ASS!!

a month before an (apparent) climatic catastrophe.

Someone.... OFA, DNC or a third party pac should run it ... or a version of it....non-stop in VA, NC and Fla.

he is being taught some lessons on a massive scale

that is going on.

Here in California, we know climate change is a reality. Today we went for a walk and on one block we saw Prius after Prius parked in front of the houses. Two younger members of my family drive Priuses.

This ad is very effective. That, I believe, is why so many on DU are so upset by the ad. It speaks to the big changes that we all have to make -- in our attitudes, our expectations and our lifestyles. It's really scary.

And it's about time that Americans get scared of something real. Climate change is real. Not so sure about some of the other things we are scared of.

Fact is that while unemployment is still too high, it is slowly declining. We are slowly getting more jobs. Mitt won't improve the job numbers, not one bit. He has presented no new ideas for increasing the numbers of new jobs. Bush tried giving tax cuts to the rich. It increased the debt of the middle class but did not improve the economy. The last thing that the rich will do if they get tax cuts is to hire more middle class workers or compensate them better. That was shown during Bush's administration. The middle class just ended up in overwhelming debt. And Congress and President Bush changed bankruptcy law so as to make it more difficult for members of the middle class to declare bankruptcy. That is what Romney would bring to the American middle class -- debt and oppression.

If that.

A sea of white.

That F'tard has the audacity to mock Obama for being concerned about climate change. And what exactly would Willard do about it? My guess is he would make it much worse by deregulating every industry he can think of.

our rights due to 911 - what good is freedom if you are dead - which is what right wingers said then.

What help can be given you and your family if the planet is in a catastrophic mess?

And funny, now the Mittwit claims to want to help people? Those people who don't take responsibility for themselves?

This made me cry.

yuck.

Florida.


K and R.

It's not an official campaign ad.

Powerful stuff to say the least!

People in places like NC understand about hurricanes, the aftermath, Federal responses,... From a couple anecdotal examples i know of here in NC involving hard-core Republican middle-aged white males now disgusted with Romney, something about Mitt's behavior the last 10 days particularly regarding Sandy, coupled with his previous statements, seems to have reached a tipping point.

This ad is good, climate change point is valid, but emphasis on preparation, role of government, about responding to all in need.

The Obama campaign will probably find just the right tone.

Bill Clinton is coming to NC. He needs to speak to this and explain it to those who have been leaning Romney, but might be concerned at prospect of Romney responding to the next "Sandy". In one of my anecdotes in NC, they described Romney as not knowing how to do anything useful, just a phony prancing around up there giggling. We know it is nothing to laugh about.

Clinton also needs to tie McCrory to Romney tightly. His smile is irritating to a lot of people, too. Much the same: no tax returns, no details of tax or spending plans, social agenda, questionable ethics, fake smile and laugh, ... Might be too late for Dalton, but our GOTV should get it closer than polls.

riding your coattails.

These bastards have denied and ridiculed for the last time. Katrina was a freaky storm, but there have been other events like that. There is NOTHING in our history as precedent for Sandy. There are lots of people who have sidestepped the climate debate, not wanting to get sucked into that controversy. Well, it is here and now. It is real for millions of people.

Romney is a very foolish, unaware man in many, many respects, and his campaign has been inept on so many levels -- such as doubling down on the Jeep lie. But is there anybody out there who things anybody would have allowed Romney to use those anti-climate lines in the convention speech if they knew what lay only 8 weeks ahead? I think Romney is an idiot, but I don't believe even he is that stupid.

I just don't see this passing quickly. Other than Faux "news" I don't see how anybody could make such public statements denying climate change now.

And it isn't going to slip away because people like Christie, Cuomo, and Bloomberg (three major figures on the political scene) are going to demand that the country make some major investments to match the new reality of climate change.

Basically what I am saying is, it is on now. There is no turning back. We have to bury the anti-climate bastards. This is our opportunity -- maybe our last good opportunity to change course.

Wow.

That's hitting Mitt where it hurts.

Hey Mitt! Did you help those families with your snark?



Nope?


I didn't think so.

nt

My RW brother went ape... launched a shotgun attack against real and imagined things Obama promised but failed to do, leading off by calling this a failure by "BO" (he always refers to the president as "BO," I wonder why ) to slow the rise of the seas.

volcano activity--and then, guess what happened. . . .

It's the GOP's patented 'wrong about everything' approach. The only thing they do right is be wrong about everything.

I wish I had more of my coworkers email addresses. I just wish I could get this in front of their eyes.

Main issue or not, it's just another sample to what callous fucks these greedy, selfish tea-publicans are. Very powerful... made my stomach turn.

How many hours do you think this prick practiced that in a mirror?

How's it taste now, Romney?

I love it when Mittens writes campaign ads for Obama.

Move to Utah? No THANK YOU!

The spank is for Mitt, great ad.

they didn't finish with, "It's climate change, stupid." J/K; no really, that video is great!

Seriously, I have never heard Romney before. I don't watch TV, did not watch the debates, and rarely watch videos on the web (except of our fine Democratic presidents!).

He sounds a bit like Maxwell Smart (from back in the 60's, when I DID watch TV!).

NGU

How any living breathing human being could cast a vote for this
man is just stunning!

It's not nice to mock Mother Nature. Her daughter Karma will kick your ass!

The women who will help bring the Republican party down.

Best ad of the year, hands down.

The laughter dubbed over the destruction extends Mitt's 47% to the 53 %.