Fox News should be charged with Sedition I'm serious
They are very dangerous, people laugh at them on our side. We know that it's a propaganda machine for the GOP, but it seems a lot of people don't. This business with Benghazi is really pissing me off and every time I try to correct the record I get told that it's been proven that the President knew about the attacks beforehand. I was just told I'm a political hack and I have on Rose Colored glasses because it's evident that I am in denial because I am trying to get the President Reelected. The person who told me that isn't a very political person and usually doesn't vote but I would consider him reasonably intelligent and have never seen him get this upset over anything. He truly is convinced that the President purposely let the Benghazi attack happen. This isn't a man who gets mad easily and this is the only time he has ever been mad at me. Fox News is going to get the President killed by turning up the heat on this situation. I think it is criminal what they are doing.
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I guess you forgot about the First Amendment??
Again, the notion FAUX News has this immense power.. and is "converting" 1,000's of otherwise
pogressive, moderate people to raving reich wing loonies.. is total baloney.
"Stupidity is the disease of America". Norman Mailer.
the point is our nation is unfortunately chock full o' bigots and ignorant people.
anyone who bases their total world view/philosophy only on what they see on tee vee and/or hear on reich wing
radio-- instead of being well read, reading a variety of books and publications-- is IMHO an ignorant person.
they were ignorant (likely thanks to their parents' ignorance) prior to FAUX News.. and they will still be
ignorant after FAUX News goes away.
The notion in Bloggo world (which appears to gain more steam yearly) that "if only these people would watch
MSNBC, or if only they would visit the same blogs I do, they would become enlightened progressives"-- is also
total baloney.
this flies in the face of basic common sense; i.e. people have to want to be educated... and many simply do not. they
prefer to remain ignorant.
Hurricane Sandy is a prime example of willful ignorance. for years now climate scientists have been warning that coastal,
low lying areas like Manhattan could suffer severe consequences from global warming/rise in the ocean level.
the clownservative response? laughing and derision and statements "Manhattan will NEVER be flooded".
WELL?
unfortunately this total disaster, with its attendant bad human behavior (fistfights at the local gas stations, etc) will not
sway the contrarians, the ignorant who think we can do whatever we want to the planet-- and get away with it.
(Note: I tend to agree with your points)
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"FAUX News turned my neighbor into a dumb racist"....
LOL.. some of you are obviously putting the cart wayyy before the horse.
are you telling me this guy (and the other "converted" doofuses) was not a racist prior to discovering FAUX News
and Drug Limpbaugh?
and you've never heard the phrase: "preaching to the choir"??
he bases his worldview/political view totally on one tee vee show or one tee vee program he happened to stumble on and watch?
weak, very weak.
there are plenty of morons on both sides.
getting back to the original thread here-- we're not going to fully educate people politically simply because outside of Bloggo world, millions of people simply do not care about politics. they have neither the time or energy to get educated.
and IMHO, tee vee and radio are the wrong mediums to educate people about politics.
we need new/better propaganda.
finally, if you want to talk about motivating more people to vote, then I think we need to look at some basic issues-- i.e. the current democratic party is not all that credible, effective at what they do.
here.. I'm not sure what Planet Earth you're on.
if your point is the democratic party is hugely credible and knows fully what they are doing, you need to explain why J Kerry lost in 2004-- to the dumbest guy who ever held the office, and who more or less admitted he LIED regarding the WMD's in Iraq. I also need to know why the democrats lost like ten governor's seats in 2010-- particularly in midwestern states like WI and OH.
I grew up in a rural town of around 1,800 people.
the difference is while my parents were not formally educated, they were intelligent/empathic; the "N" word and other racial epithets were not allowed in our home. my brothers and I knew we would be in BIG trouble if we ever uttered those words
again, this gets back to fundamentals like: if you were born to and raised in an ignorant/racist home and if most of your neighbors were ignorant/racist when you were growing up-- then you yourself are likely to be ignorant/racist.
this of course can be altered (more likely when you;re young) by going away to university-- say 750 miles away as in my case.. which obv gets you outside of your bubble, and exposes you to diversity and education.
it appears you are stereotyping ("all rural people are rednecks/racists"
.
there's no excuse for self-limiting one's education. there are hundreds of good magazines and newspapers one can subscribe to, and there are 1,000's of publications on the internets. for starters, I subscribe to The Economist and Bloomberg Business Week.
if people are ignorant, it's because they watch tee vee too much, and don't read.
you're not going to change that by "getting media" to "tell the truth about everything"... Since when is it the JOB of media to fully educate people?
Your "empirical evidence" is alot like the baloney "four out of five doctors recommend XYZ" we used to hear on tee vee years ago. if your sample size is merely five, out of thousands, that hardly is representative of anything.
"Sorry", I need hard evidence that thousands of otherwise progressive or moderate people have been "converted" into rabid anti-Obama teabaggers by FAUX News.
your so called experience with a few dozen people hardly qualifies as a "scientific study" and you know it.
get real instead of calling BS on info you don't happen to like.
I guess you forgot about that.
FAUX News is not going away... just like drug limpbaugh is not. they and the rest of the well paid hacks are staying right where they are, because millions of doofs (who were ignorant prior to watching/listening) are paying attention. that means their bovine-like eyeballs watching the advertising.
They offer you cookies if you come to the Dark Side.
it's more than astonishing to me that here and elsewhere in Bloggo world, progressives insist MSM behave and
act in a specific way (i.e. "tell the truth about everything"
when in fact 99% of MSM is owned by the wealthy class.
Hellooooooo?
if you've been paying attention the last 25 years, it ought to be crystal clear to you by now the wealthy class
has their own agenda... and they are using the media they OWN to propagate/put forth their agenda, 24/7.
anyone here care to guess what that agenda is-- it's actually very, very simple.
to me.
my worldview is based on facts... not mere opinion.. much of which is not based on facts.
ALL OF THEM should be charged with malfeasance of office. Every last damned obstructionist rethug/teabagger racist pig. Now! Take that to the bank and cash it!
applies only to white presidents, evidently. Tell your racist friend, Obama is Potus and one of the best, truly, in many a generation and OMG he's a black man!
the larger issue I see in Bloggo world is the sophomoric nonsense "if only the media would tell the truth about everything, Obama would win in a landslide and unicorns and fairies would dance about in joy".
ughhhh.
this whole idea is IMHO an indication of people being LAZY. They demand the "media" do their job, and/or the job of the politicians, which obv should be to tell the truth/face reality (for once) but they are not. it's the total opposite.
well folks, reality just hit us-- a major storm hit the eastern seaboard for the second time in 14 months.
millions of people w/o power, 1,000's of elderly people with no food and water.
FAIL.
but loath to handle lies, distortions and propaganda. 
Kicking a-go-go
to run one of those bands at the bottom of their screen that says,
"Every word you are listening to is complete rubbish"
and make it permanent.
Speaking of fox, I just heard the Murdock put out a statement that Chris Christy better make up with romney or take credit for four more years of Obama.
