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Stinky The Clown

(67,818 posts)
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 10:53 AM Nov 2012

Some thoughts on Chris Christie

He is doing an undeniably good job for New Jersey. He seems to have, indeed, thrown partisan politics aside at the right time for the right reasons. I think it was he, himself, who said, in response to how he was working with Obama: "This is what adults do." If that wasn't him who said that, it should have been.

But looking forward, what is his future? Not being a seer, I can't say for sure. But here's a possibility. He can be reelected governor of New Jersey. He might even be so popular right now, he could possibly run unopposed. If he wants, he can run for the Senate.

But he's too abrasive, in that Jersey Shore Guido sort of way, to be a serious presidential contender. That and his questionable health. He has a lot of baggage, has taken a lot of hard right stances, has done things that tend to offend many in his own state, let alone on a national stage. He even has a few Bachmann-Crazy sound bites that can be made into campaign opposition ads.

I have a lot of praise and respect for Chris Christie right now, in this moment. But I also think his finest days are . . . . now. This is the zenith of his career.

As to his becoming a Democrat . . . . fuhggetabouddit. I dare say most don't want him in the party and I dare say it would not be a good fit for him, either. He only "found Jesus" when a big part of his state, the part in which he grew up, was slipping off into the angry ocean. That isn't a conversion; it is just a feeling that will soon enough pass.


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Kahuna

(27,311 posts)
1. I live in NJ. Consider that when CC runs for president, he won't want
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:04 AM
Nov 2012

to lose his own state the way mittens is going to.

Lightsource777

(78 posts)
2. He won't run and couldn't even get nominated
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:08 AM
Nov 2012

The Republicans will never forget this Christie and Sandy thing, even if Romney wins.
But especially if Romney loses, ESPECIALLY... he will be blamed by them almost without a doubt.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
3. My guess is that if Christie wants to stay in
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:13 AM
Nov 2012

politics, he's eventually going to have to switch parties, he's committed a mortal sin to the republicans. Rupert Murdoch is already threatening him and he'll get much of the blame from the extremists when Romney loses.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
5. he certainly has had a MAMMOTH gain in stature
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:20 AM
Nov 2012

Among some on the left. He has made some gigantic and massive strides to some.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
6. He is the next Charlie Crist.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:29 AM
Nov 2012

He will have to become an independent eventually.The Repub party won't want him. Hey, Teddy Roosevelt turned independent and made up his own party when he ran against Taft and Wilson.
The real issue is that Repubs have driven out northeastern Repubs a long time ago and Christie is one of the few left of national stature.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
12. I tend to buy into that viewpoint. Christie may have well had a revelation.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 01:24 PM
Nov 2012

If Christie has had a revelation and tone down to become a more cooperative politician who attempts to work through differences before taking a firm stance, Christie will instantly become acceptable to many people that would not vote for him now on the national stage and become a formidable politician because of that. If Christie has indeed had a life changing revelation that moderates and broadens him, I don't see a democrat now on the national stage that can compete with Christie.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
13. If he wants to become more popular he will do that.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 01:31 PM
Nov 2012

If he wants to play in the Repub's system, he will simply have to move very far right to win the primary. If he was smart, he would do the third party way to run for President. But I hope he stays a Repub as that would be better for us.

Hippo_Tron

(25,453 posts)
8. Bottom line, the guy is not an idiot
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:34 AM
Nov 2012

He knows when it's time to suspend partisanship and work with the President. 8 years of Dumbya made us think that all Republicans have forgotten this (or how to be competent in any way shape or form).

BumRushDaShow

(129,440 posts)
9. He is first and foremost a politician, and has an election coming up next year
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:45 AM
Nov 2012

He wants to get re-elected as his near term future because he knows there is no way he can go national. I expect his forays as a surrogate took a toll and Hurricane Sandy sealed it. He also knows that no teabagger will win in NJ and too many Democrats are steeped in corruption, so the move to suddenly tack back hard to the middle early enough, will help his chances next year. He also knows the very vocal current mayor of Newark, who himself is a bully (from the "other side" of the political spectrum), is going to be a very formidable opponent because Cory Booker is as ruthless as he is AND is a young gun with alot of energy. Plus as a DLCer, Booker is a danger to moderate rethugs statewide (the "downside" being that he is black but that is not as much an issue as it would be in other locales).

Christie is a typical "moderate" rethuglican of the Mid-Atlantic area stripe and I expect his sampling of talking teathugger lingo was probably very uncomfortable.

His party tried it the teabagger way and it has been nothing but FAIL - at least in the NE and Mid-Atlantic. That may work in the south and in some parts of the inland west, but race after race, they are seeing it doesn't work in the most populated areas of this country.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
10. I don't live in NJ, so I can't speak to day to day issues.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:53 AM
Nov 2012

Living where I do, I have seen all the press conferences during Sandy and Irene. I have to hand it to the guy, he's an effective leader when there is a disaster. I think he said 'this is what adults do' and 'now is not the time for politics' my husband and I both let out an OMG! I said that he just screwed himself with the Rs. He said, 'and what to my wondering eyes should appear..'
I think they will drop him like a hot potato. They hate the Dems and Obama too much to let this slide.

applegrove

(118,778 posts)
14. "It's what adults do" was not what Christie said. Someone impersonating
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 02:03 PM
Nov 2012

him on twitter said that. I got the tweet from a retweet from Roger Ebert. I was wrong to post that.

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