I think we'll just be seeing more of the same.

and FuksNews and Hate Radio, will simply be OUT of their minds...even more than normal.

How long for Chinless Mitch to take his "Obama will only be a 2 term President" stance?

issues.

She found a mangled rabbit under a ripped up seat cushion in one of her patio chairs yesterday morning.

We're not sure what to think of that.

Not trying to minimalize her experience at all, please understand that. But depending on where she lives it's a possibility and that might ease her mind. I've found a few in my yard over the years.

If not that's scary.

Yes, it is that sort of place, but it's a little odd for either of those tribes of critters to leave the rabbit whole, unless maybe they weren't hungry and were just storing it for later. Do they do that sort of thing?

I will not encourage her to be scared. It's funny the reasonable explanations that "odd" things can actually have. It really is no good being paranoid.

They've been completely open about their desire for an open Civil War for nearly 4 years now. If none of them start shooting in the next 4 years then they are obviously lying cowards.

being renewed under President Obama. He'll need to keep tabs on his enemies . . . foreign and domestic.

I keep thinking, had JFK the Patriot Act at his disposal, would history had been written differently?

one of the most unamerican, unconstitutional pieces of legislation in the history of this nation. I can't believe you would be praising this POS law that started under the Bushco Admin.

and considering the proliferation of death threats, astronomical sales in guns and ammo, that really stupid and outdated 2nd Amendment and loop-hole-ridden gun laws, the Patriot Act was necessary for the first black president of this racist United States.

I can't believe you're so naive that you can't see that.

That doesn't excuse the fact that it's unamerican, I bet you like the terrorist watch list also, where your name is put on a list by some faceless govt. entity, where your not even informed that your name is on the list, where you have no recourse to get your name off that list, where you are not entitled to face your accuser, call witness's to testify on your behalf, where your guilty, period, that's as bad as the patriot act. Ted Kennedy was on the watch list and the no fly list, and he didn't even know it until he tried to board an aircraft.
Does that sound like the kind of America you want? The Patriot Act has so expanded the powers of the Fed. Govt. to spy on it's own citizens, secret courts, held in detention w/o charges, warrantless wiretapping. That sound like the America you want?
That's not the America I grew up in and your endorsement of a Bushco POS legislation is, IMHO, wrong.
BTW, please explain what's outdated about the 2A.

My opinion differs IMMENSELY from yours, but then again, I live in the 21st century and I'm not pollyannish.

The outdatedness of the 2nd Amendment is, we have a national defense department second to none. No need to "arm" oneself against enemy militias, foreign or domestic. Yeah, yeah, I know they've revised the 2nd Amendment over the years to make it more for personal recreation and stuff, but if you want to talk constitutionality, well, that's one that's evolved so much they might as well change it to Amendment 2/10.0.

And to be real, it's not as if we haven't been spied on throughout the years before the Patriot Act. Driver's license numbers, social security numbers, school records, address changes, etc., have helped in that regard. People's landline phone lines have been constantly tapped into. I'd been warned about saying "bomb" and "president" in the same sentence when on the phone. Maybe it was just urban legend, but how hard is it to believe we aren't being listened in on?

Come on. Surely you're not that naive?

or internet is automatically flagged by the NSA's computers and then assessed as to the degree of context they were used in, if it's deemed as a possible threat, several things will happen, you might get a visit from some very unpleasant people, IE: Secret Service/FBI, you might be placed on a to be watched list, or it's deemed non threatening and no further action is taken, but you can bet that a file is opened up on the person.
It's definitely not urban legend.

Sometimes it does seem a miracle that the President hasn't been attacked by one of these nut cases. Security must be really top grade for the WH. He's always out there among people, too. The motorcade thing has been abandoned, and I can see where it might make a person a sitting duck. It must be that there is no direct point at which the President would be and the people closest to him are the people working hardest for his re-election, so there's less risk - a nutcase won't have the tenacity to keep at that long enough to get close.

extensively by the F.B.I. against the Mafia, as I recall it.

Anyway, the possible idiot chosen to do the deed isn't the problem. The men behind the scheme, are. Although a LOT of Americans (the entire Left and now there's a Democratic president, the AlwaysWrongRight, too) hate the Patriot Act, I can see where it's useful for protection and for things like plans to steal an election or conspiring against President Obama, or something more sinister. I have no doubt the KochBros and such are under surveillance and I know that I'm not (got nothing to hide and am not trying to overthrow the Federal Gov't - I'm not that important enough), but in this day and age of the interwebs, the Patriot Act is necessary.

I don't mean physically, I'm talking about the NSA recording just about every phone conversation in the country, I'm talking about the govt. being able to track your every movement via your cell phone, I'm talking about the telecommunications industry in bed with the govt.
Don't kid yourself about not being watched, not directly, but you are watched indirectly.

It never bothered me under Duhbya, and it doesn't bother me under President Obama.

Why does it bother you so much? Do you believe they're monitoring you then?

because I'm a cop.
Don't fool yourself, because of the patriot act, we have lost a lot of our civil liberties.

bothers you so much.

Me? I'm just a hausfrau who's never even gotten a ticket for driving. I have family in pacifist Holland, and I have three children who have never been in any trouble with the law, who pay their taxes dutifully, and who work very hard.

I don't think I'm of any importance to anyone so I guess that's why I don't feel threatened by the Patriot Act.

Fuck them.

I pray for the president's and his family's safety and the rest I don't think much about.

Stop it you guys nothing is going to happen after Obama wins.

I will tell you what is going to happen.

Fox news will talk about how Romney may have been to moderate and they should have picked a more conservative in the primary.

Malkin will write a book on how the republican party has lost it's conservative roots .
Ann Coulter will act like the usual dumb ass on Hannity.

Hannity will still be talking about Benghazi .
O'Rilley will try to suck up to the President on his show to get an interview.
The Tea Party will have some meetings and loudly proclaim Obama sucks.

If anyone cares to add anymore please be my guest.

will fulminate and possibly get a stroke on the air. And Glenn Beck will still be a jerkoff.

I want to be watching. Instant slowmo replay frame by frame watching that fucker go down.

These greedy bastards have only a couple of thin disguises for their racism and hatred and jealousy. They just re-use them.

They will look hard for a ground for impeachment - after the Fast and Furious fail and the Benghazi fail, they will look for some other bone to chew.

and former Rushbot.

I'm pro-gun but I know that gun nuts won't do a damned thing other than continue to frame their views through the same paranoia and continue to hoard and acquire every gun they can get their mitts on to the point of squeezing their liquidity and being "gun poor".

I imagine Rush will create a new meme he'll open his show with about America being held hostage blah blah blah, replete with a countdown enumerating each day till the next presidential election. I have a strong feeling his corpulence and unhealthy vitriol may cause him to have "the big one" and croak while still on the air before the next election.

All those "isolated incidents" over the last four years.

If you mean "Will it get worse?" the answer is probably not. They'll go on snapping at about the same rate.

it'll be like nothing this country has seen since the Civil War. I hope I'm delusional and wrong.

These people are serious and see Obama as a threat.

I'm 32... I think with as polarized as our political climate has become thanks to AM hate radio and Fux Propaganda, it could happen - and I know Obama will win the election but what will happen after that?

they will go down fighting.

The republican party will either die off with these fuckers at the helm--or restructure itself into a more moderate party.

yes, I think we should be mindful of this.

Secret Service is going to have to double efforts. Watch out for impeachment proceedings too. Those assholes don't like losing.

If they continue to hold the House. Maybe this time it will backfire even worse.

That's what they do

They'll try to run it as far as they can.

I worry for our President each and every day. Someone had posted a link to a 60 minute interview in the video section where they interviewed some KKK people. They clearly stated that if Obama became President again a race war was imminent. It frightens the bejesus out of me because it's not just Obama. They hint on another civil war in our midst.

come.... can't shake it, too many nuts.

That all those poor people in the city are going to be invading the country (even though they have no cars and no gas money to get here) and taking away our vast wealth.Even though the cities have far more wealth. By "Poor" I think they mean "poor black people".

And it will happen in January, the angry white guys say. I assume they mean Inauguration Day for Obama's second term.

snap sometime anyway. So, I don't think the election changes that.

In case I'm wrong, it's always good to have a plan b.

Above all, we cannot let our nation be held hostage by their armed temper tantrums. Let's hope Obama's DOJ sees them for the terrorists they are and cracks down on the psychotic traitors before they can hurt anyone.

the cops will take care of the true idiots.

If not, then the National guard will..


If not, then let them come.

Everybody LOVES a surprise.

Surprise, motherfuckers.

Just because we voted for the black dude don't mean we cannot defend our land, our constitution.


All these fucking idiotic right wing gassbags don't understand that those of us who think FUX Snooz isn't the gospel cannot defend themselves. Fabulous. Just the tactical edge that some might want.

Just sayin. If you REALLY want to bring it, bring lunch too, dudes..

It's going to be a very long day,

You''re going to want to keep hydrated. That next night is going to be illuminating.


Peace, out.

Secret Service and the Navy SEALS and we've got a Deal!

where "mitt is going to win in a landslide".

We saw on brietbart.com via DU that "romney was so far ahead that it didn't matter that Christie was praising Pres Obama". I guess the freepbags didn't get the message when they were smearing Christie.

venturing into the red parts of town next week.

I expect they'll be a spate of those again after November. Add that to the despair that comes with the holidays, plus all those Republican bosses who say they're gonna start firing people if Obama wins... it ain't good. On the other hand, it's probably still safer than driving around on the freeways on New Year's Eve.

If you stand up to a bully, you'll see they ain't shit

And then they'll be hunted down like rabid dogs.

And if any of them think they can go after the President, they'll quickly learn that the Secret Service is not to be trifled with.

their joke of a candidate is going to get almost half of the votes.

that doesn't translate into almost half of the population grabbing their guns and starting a shooting war.
There will be a few nuts who may try to start some shit, but they'll be put down pretty fast, most everyone else will just go on with their lives.

For example, a large number of Americans supported segregation and keeping black people as 2nd-class citizens in the 1950's.

The burning of churches full of black children by extremists in this group didn't help solidify that support, but rather made people question their beliefs and turn away from them.

I see the same parallel today; if innocent people die, the support for such action will be wiped out.

Ever since the primaries in 2008. I think a lot of Black people especially, myself included, have been afraid from the beginning that someone might successfully assassinate the president. I remember days after the election just having this dread and being so scared that somebody might try something crazy. Luckily, it hasn't happened and I really, really hope it will stay that way. The Kennedy assassinations happened way before I was born, but my parents remember the events clearly...it's something I hope to never experience in my lifetime.

that thought flashed in my mind in 08.. yesterday i had that same uneasy feeling... it appears the secret service is doing a fantastic job protecting the POTUS as well the first lady...

what scares me much more is the pent up anger that has been ginned up for Mr Obama.. the daily trash that is labeled as news, is little more than hate filled propaganda....

i would suspect that pent up anger after the election, may result in something on Par with the Oklahoma City bombing.. also there are enough crazy Christian cults out there that something along the lines of Jonesville may be in order..

It never really seems all that far under the surface, does it?

I must be your parents age - I remember all of the assassinations. And you're right - it was a terrible time to live through in many ways. Pretty fantastic in others though.

I wish the people on the right side of the aisle had learned as much from it all as those of us on the left did. Sometimes I wonder if we sucked the intelligence, kindness and understanding out of them and took it for ourselves.

Is that wrong? It's not like I'm doing anything but voting for the good guy.

I want them to feel what I felt in 2004.

And an extra helping for being evil fucks.

And the same people that happily gave up their civil rights to Bush have been stockpiling guns and ammo for the last four years without firing a shot.

They've know this was coming since Romney cinched the nomination six months ago. They're resigned to their loss.

I hope you're right......

Bright side: the more people who show up in the emergency room with bullet wounds, the more they'll start to appreciate Obamacare.

...Sikh temples, doctors at women's health clinics... And, that is the real disturbing thing about it. The President has the Secret Service, The Beast, a kevlar vest, snipers, bullet-proof glass shields, and all sorts of high-tech protection. The rest of us horrible commielibrulfascistmuslimsocialistgawdhating bastards who gave him a second term don't have that kind of protection. I think the President will be okay. It's the rest of us that concerns me.

I have really been contemplating this for the past few years but more intensely for the past few months. I shared this same outlook via email with my conservative and fundamentalist brother who is a pastor in the assembly of god - no response. Same worries, but no fear.

If Obama loses, they'll get the tax breaks they so desperately crave, and the satisfaction of "taking their country back" (even though they never want to mention from whom).
If he wins, they'll be able to rile up their base even more and keep the cash and donations flowing. Fox News anchors and RW radio talkers might even be secretly hoping for an Obama win, just so they'll have a prominent Democrat to present as a verbal effigy to their fans for the next 4 years.

You only have to feel threatened in order to defend yourself. If you don't live in Florida, keep the motor running. Don't be afraid to take out the witnesses to. In the long run, they're a threat to you too. And remember, a well armed society is a polite society.

The people who are actually nuts are going to be nuts no matter what the current political climate is.

The foaming-at-the-mouth wingers are going to be the same chickenhawks they've always been. i.e., they're far more likely to have their house broken into and have their gun safe stolen than they are to ever shoot one of those guns at anything but paper, if at all.

...I'm not so sure that some of my Repug 'friends' won't take a shot at me...it's not as if I'm not gonna rub their noses in it or anything, so in their minds I'll deserve it.

Bookmark this:

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/violence-directed-liberal-and-govern

with no violence, so I don't think even they are going to get mad enough to start pulling the trigger. No one has been shot yet over the massive CONservative control over voting in WA yet so I'm sure they're not going to start pulling the trigger over a perceived slight when they haven't over real fraud her in WA.

i am worred about the aftermath if someone takes out obama. my alarm bells for his security and saftey have been going off since his first election.

Keywords: CW2 = Civil War 2, that they expect to happen after the first time or the second (or the third? ...) time that Obama gets elected President. Actually, many are expecting a dictatorship and no elections in 2016.

SHTF = Shit hits the fan

They work on freerepublic.com Another site is http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/ He has a blogroll that leads to other sites.

What will they do? Some of the more active will move to Alaska.

if this worries you then do something to prepare for it, being afraid does not help nor will it prevent what you fear.

Gun-worshipping nutters, if I might say!

They will just continue to game the system.

The rich increased their net worth by an average of 15% under Obama's first term.

They may cry for an hour or two because now their money will only grow another 15% instead of the 40% it would grow under Romney. But they will get over it.

I am aware that the haters are a vocal minority but I do worry

If anything, I hope they take it out on each other.

That's the Rethugs' permanent state. I'm not afraid of anything as silly as that because I know that while at any time there are a load of people talking smack about killing any given sitting president, only a few are psych enough to actually consider it if the opportunity arose, and of those, an even tinier number would put themselves at risk in an attempt, and of that time "elite," a nearly infinitesimal number have the brain cells to make a plausible attempt. I worry about more realistic things.

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And, if he want's to see who is the real piece of shit, he only needs to go as far as his own mirror.

It wouldn't surprise me to see that after the election. But nothing on the order of an organized movement.

It didn't

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haters and I would not be surprised if they commit some Timothy McVeigh type violence or get started with their "2nd amendment solutions".

much ado about nothing.

Gun nutters are inherently violent, and scared bed wetting crazies. When they feel cornered they will lash out as they have done over the years. I believe there is an uptick of activity when ever a democratic president is elected as shown the last three plus years.

If they wanna be stupid, BRING IT.

We'll see how much "constitution" they really have for the backlash (most of said "constitution" will end up in their underwear)

Doesn't mean I don't have a gun or know how to use it. I'm am not afraid, bring it you toothless idiots!!!!!! This gal is ready!!!!!!!!!!!!!

a bit afraid. Almost all of these Tea Party gun nuts are all cowards and will go back into hiding and shivering in fear of a better future for the middle class!

rest of the world combined. I wouldn't worry about it ...

the gungeon "militia" to help the military (depending on which side they choose).

Obama vs. Mitt is anticlimactic.

I think as long as its a decisive win they will just go back to their caves and play with their toys.

I personally would rather have it out with them at some point than continue to live under their terrorism. Should some of them start something, we should be prepared to do something about it. The reason we've gotten to this point is that we have so far refused to fight back. Bullies don't stop bullying until someone hits back. This group of nut cases is no different.

They've lived through almost 4 years now of their greatest horror, a black President, and haven't done anything but blow hot air. So they'll probably just continue to do that.

Why live in fear? It's pointless, counter productive and robs your life of joy.

I live in a very red county in TX, kind of out in the country. It is the reason I brought my late father's guns to TX from NM, and taught my son how to shoot.

My son got into a heated discussion on FB regarding this election. He was ridiculed at football practice the next day with no one to back him up. He also speaks out in class standing up for President Obama.

My wife also teaches at his school. Many people / students know where we live. We also have a sign with our last name in our yard. Many of the kids in his school hunt / own guns and go out drinking. I'm afraid for his/our safety, mainly from drunk kids with nothing to do. Because of where we live, we are easy targets.

He is also #1 in his junior class and has seen many instances of students being against him.

Count on it.

I think about it on rare occasion, esp. now that I am in a remote area surrounded by many anti-Obama folks, some being Romney supporters. The level of calm and deliberate delusion about Romney's chances of victory is really stunning. Have said it before here, but couldn't believe it when a local rag had the owner's editoral calmly stating that in a few weeks, there would be a Romney landslide, and that the hard work would start after (you know, when they dismantle the "freebie/welfare" state that Obama enacted singlehandedly, my paraphrasing on that). Which is funny, because in my lilly white community and every surround one, it is all white people using government services, and esp a ton of the ranchers and farmers - who will readily admit to doing so. Even as they bitch about the spending (yep, the stuff that is coming to them too). They certainly do not plan to turn down the money/services they get, as some of the farmers grow rich on the subsidies given to them.

Anyway, these people are at the age where they are way more talk than do. Truly - when Obama wins as I believe the polls are indicating strongly, these folks will now have something to gripe about over coffee at breakfast where they gather every morning before they start work. Grouse, grouse, grump, groan, bitch, whine, rinse, repeat....for the next 4 years. I laughed when Murdoch sent that twitter about how Christie better fix what he said in case it causes the election to be lost for Romney, because the election of Obama ensures that Faux News will have a strong audience of post election whiners for the next 4 years. Which means a ton of money in Murdoch's pocket. I doubt that he really wants Romney to win, as his audience would have nothing to pretend to be offended about.

There will be the same amount of nuts that have been around the last four years, and while that is miniscule (and to some degree, faced by every president), it does only take one to get a break and have some horrific deed occur. So that I do still, and will probably never not have a fear of such things. That said, it is like any other crime that I see being committed, in that I try to be aware but not let these kind of fears control my life.

So, no, I don't expect any more of an increase in the real nutjobs than we've already seen since the last election. It is a danger we all have to take under consideration and of which we must be aware; but Obama winning this time isn't going to unleash the gates of hell as the RWers wish us to believe.

OTOH, the whining may be elevated and nasty for awhile.

Michele must worry constantly...but I guess she knows the amount of security he has and has faith. She'd have a nervous breakdown if she didn't.

I frankly can't even imagine Mitt and Ann enduring such worry. They'll probably be relieved they lost.

Heard lots of this in 08... They talk a lot of shit but in the end the freepers are just armchair bullshit artists.

Hope the SS is watching

talking crazy shit and use their guns to kill more innocent animals for 'sport.'

Screw the crazies!!!

I for one don't fear them, I have better things to do with my time, if they get uppity I'll help deal with that.

I hope it does not come to pass though.

Most of them just blow hot air and are far too stupid to outsmart the Secret Service. But there are some very powerful people out there who hate Obama with a passion and are used to getting their way...those are the ones that worry me...

if the second term is inevitable (ala Kennedy). So yeah it does worry me. But I also think the president has better protection than previous presidents.