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(63,912 posts)War on Women seriously. I wish this could be studied. I really would like to understand why women DON'T get it or REFUSE to get it!
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,666 posts)this is a HUGE issue for me. I have women in my life, including a daughter who deserves the same rights and opportunities as everyone else in this (could be) great nation.
Frankly, just the economic issues would harm women disproportionately, too.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)If Obama, JFK, Jesus, Martin Luther Luther King, and Ghandi were rolled into one candidate, who belonged to a party which advocated forcing women to undergo medically unnecessary ultrasounds, OR forcing doctors to "make them look" at the images before giving medical care, OR contemplating a Constitutional amendment that would have the effect of forcing women to give birth against their will, I would vote for someone else.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i can list out tons more reason i vote obama.
but, this one right here is all that matters, nov 6.
madokie
(51,076 posts)Its my daughter, wife and sisters well being that drives me
Lionessa
(3,894 posts)Surely our health care regardless of abortion is a BIG issue, but no one should be uninformed or uninterested enough in all the issues facing women including unequal job opportunity and unequal familial responsibilities causing single mothers to suffer more than their respective single fathers, unequal credit and borrowing considerations, and such.
One issue voting for anyone is completely foolish and should not be promoted, imo.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)If you think women losing their right to choose is not important to every other issue you're sadly mistaken. It's the very foundation of all our other rights.
If this issue is ignored it's at the peril of everything else.
Lionessa
(3,894 posts)The right to choice and contraception is a part of women's issues, EQUALITY across the board is the issue that is central, not abortion. We've had access and the right to abortion for decades but still are second class citizens in most ways.
Please stop promoting the lie that having choice will equate to equality when it is the exact reverse that is true, ... gaining true equality will pave the way to choices both in and out of the birth control arena.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)getting the right to choose. I don't have it backwards at all.
Lionessa
(3,894 posts)Bless your heart.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)and rude.
Lionessa
(3,894 posts)I'll happily take rude over the alternative of stupid and foolish you're OP is requesting.
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)But I would hardly describe myself as one issue. There a lot of things that needs to be dealt with, starting with Jobs.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Women traditionally didn't get high paying jobs because it was assumed they would get pregnant regularly and not be able to work.
There is a direct relationship between women's right to choose and all the other things women enjoy now. What the Republicans want when they try to make abortion and contraception illegal is for women to have no control, short of complete abstinence over when or how often they get pregnant. This is an opportunity killer for just about everything else women enjoy today. Jobs, financial independence, plan the size of their families, being able to get an education and rise out of poverty, etc.
And taking this right away from women will drive many of them to back room abortions done by unqualified people. Making abortion illegal would be like putting women in chains for life.
Lionessa
(3,894 posts)unequal hiring considerations, employers wouldn't want their hired women leaving for paid maternity leave and would therefore support birth control measures including abortion.
Women have had birth control rights for decades and yet wage/work/social equality is still very elusive for most women.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)And at 64 I've been in the fight from the beginning. We won't ever be able to go forward if our basic right to choose is taken away. That will be a giant step backwards.
I don't know why there's even a fight in this?
Lionessa
(3,894 posts)Continue as you wish to be foolish in this regard.
One issue voting is stupid, and this issue is a small part of overall equality. Thinking otherwise plays into their hands. Saying having reproductive rights produces equality is like suggesting that having Obama as president proves the US has no racial bigotry anymore and those of color are now entirely equal. Foolish, foolish, foolish.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)In spite of the insult.
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)There are very few goods and services that are free. No job means having no health Insurance, it means you have to come up with cash on your own. Free Mammograms? I am thinking maybe not.. Even (Women) Veterans who go to the VA Hospital do not get services for free unless they are ranked as 100% disabled. I agree with you its a super important issue, but its also super important, who gets selected to the Supreme Court of the United States... Getting people back to work is also another issue.. I refuse to just be a single issue person.. There is a lot at stake in this election...
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I have no problem with what you say, because I feel the same way. It's that this time women have to fight for their right to choose in a way we haven't had to do for decades.
All the other issues are important.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)marriage equality, fairness in workplace payments, healthcare choices for women, fairness in overall society (medicare/medicaid/social security/healthcare/fema) & climate change
forestpath
(3,102 posts)Is there a more ridiculous euphemism in our language than Pro Life? What it really means is Anti Choice.
Ship of Fools
(1,453 posts)A woman in a workplace years ago yelled at me: "Don't be a one-issue voter!"
or some such. I replied that the right to control one's own bodily functions
should never have been made an issue in the first place. Made me feel better,
but she went away mad (at least she went away.)
ceile
(8,692 posts)You must be pro choice or I wil not vote for you.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)and I wonder how he thinks any woman could possibly find him attractive. Just my two cents.
cali
(114,904 posts)There are many issues that I think are just as important.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I've never been one before and hope not to be one again.