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Hie thee to LBN for breaking: Mittens paid NO taxes. Our CRACK journalists were too busy for 2 yrs (Original Post) UTUSN Nov 2012 OP
They weren't too busy to play a football game with the Romney campaign staff Fumesucker Nov 2012 #1
Sadly, no such proof orangejuice Nov 2012 #2
I'll settle for "objectionable," and the point is that if this had been out with TIME UTUSN Nov 2012 #4
That is NOT true.... flowomo Nov 2012 #3
I posted links. I am not any kind of tax expert. What parts are not true -- UTUSN Nov 2012 #7
As I (and others) posted on the other threads..... flowomo Nov 2012 #8
What's not true ... orangejuice Nov 2012 #10
self-delete -- misread, sorry. n/t OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #5
most likely ZERO taxes from '96 to '09 RomneyLies Nov 2012 #6
Bloomberg broke that a week ago. It has just sat there. Zen Democrat Nov 2012 #9

orangejuice

(17 posts)
2. Sadly, no such proof
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 04:23 PM
Nov 2012

I keep clicking on threads like this because I hope the evidence will emerge. But this Daily Kos diary misunderstands or misrepresents the Bloomberg article it cites. The source does not claim Romney paid zero taxes, only that he avoided taxation on sale and reinvestment of a MINORITY of his assets through a charitable remainder trust.

The trust is completely objectionable, but is not the evidence we seek.

UTUSN

(70,706 posts)
4. I'll settle for "objectionable," and the point is that if this had been out with TIME
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 04:29 PM
Nov 2012

it might have been sorted out appropriately and with the evidence that is so desired.

It's too late to matter now. But what stands out is the OBTUSENESS of Mittens to be running for something for a decade and not be prepared to face whatever kinds of questions.

flowomo

(4,740 posts)
3. That is NOT true....
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 04:26 PM
Nov 2012

we have plenty of ammo against Romney, we don't need to be spreading distortions

UTUSN

(70,706 posts)
7. I posted links. I am not any kind of tax expert. What parts are not true --
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 04:32 PM
Nov 2012

the tax shelter, the loophole closed by Congress, the grandfathering-in of past users of the loophole? Be sure to instruct the other threads as well as this one.

flowomo

(4,740 posts)
8. As I (and others) posted on the other threads.....
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 04:40 PM
Nov 2012

Romney ducked capital gains taxes on money he put in a CRUT (and then stiffed the Mormon charity to boot). The original OCt. 29 story from Bloomberg makes that clear). The Kos poster then blew this up to claim Romney paid no taxes at all -- and that is false.

orangejuice

(17 posts)
10. What's not true ...
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 04:45 PM
Nov 2012

...Is the proposition that the trust represents all his income.

It's a slimy tax dodge that exploits the provisions in the tax code meant to encourage charitable giving. It is not an outright gift, the charity only receives what's left in the trust after he dies. The article alleges that he's spending it down so fast that what's left will be less than what was required by law. This needs to be exposed.

The payouts from the trust, however, represent a minority of his income.

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
6. most likely ZERO taxes from '96 to '09
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 04:32 PM
Nov 2012

but there's no way to know for sure because we people have seen all the tax returns we're gonna see.

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