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Time for change

(13,718 posts)
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:15 PM Nov 2012

Path to Victory: Wisconsin, Ohio, Nevada, Iowa – Early Voting and Polls Suggest Clear Obama Victory

As the last weekend before Election Days draws to a close, President Obama is tightening his grip on an electoral college victory. Of the nine states that are considered competitive at this time (Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Virginia, Wisconsin), Obama seems to be pulling away in four of them (Iowa, Ohio, Nevada, Wisconsin) with more than enough electoral votes to win. Of the other 5 competitive states, Obama has a slight lead in one (NH), two are virtually tied (CO, VA), and Romney has a slight lead in one (FL) and a somewhat comfortable lead in one (NC). But Obama doesn’t need any of those 5 states to win. Iowa, Ohio, Nevada and Wisconsin alone will give him 277 electoral votes, to 261 for Romney. In fact, Obama could even lose Iowa or Nevada, in addition to the other 5, and he would still win.


Recent polling in Nevada, Ohio, Iowa, and Wisconsin

First let’s consider the polling. Obama leads in a series of recent polls in the 4 states, as compiled by Real Clear Politics, ranging from 2.8% to 4.2%, as follows:
Nevada: 5 polls, [font color="blue"]+ 2.8%[/font]
Ohio: 12 polls, [font color="blue"]+ 2.8%[/font]
Iowa: 6 polls, [font color="blue"]+ 3.0%[/font]
Wisconsin, 5 polls, + [font color="blue"]4.2%[/font]

Those leads may not seem like a great deal. But keep in mind that the statistical margin of error in combined polls is far lower than that from a single poll. All of those Obama leads are above the statistical margin of error, with only two days to go.

Nate Silver recently looked at the historical accuracy of state polls right before Election Day, since 1988. Of 77 series of late state polls since 1988, 74 of them correctly predicted the winner. One of the ones that didn’t was the series of Ohio state polls right before the 2004 election – and as we now know, there is a great amount of evidence that that election was riddled with fraud. The latest pre-election polls in Ohio in 2004 predicted John Kerry the winner, while George W. Bush won the official vote count. Not incidentally, the Ohio exit polls also predicted John Kerry the winner – by a large margin.


Early voting

An analysis of early voting provides additional strong reason to believe that Obama will win these 4 states:

Nevada
72% of Nevadans have already voted (if one assumes that total turnout will approximately equal that of 2008), and analysis of voting by party affiliation shows that more than 48 thousand registered Democrats than Republicans have voted so far. Of course Party affiliation does not prove who one is going to vote for. But extrapolation from similar early voting data in Nevada in 2008 indicates that Obama has a comfortable lead in Nevada at this point.

Iowa
With 39% of Iowans having voted by now, the lead in registered Democrats over Republicans is about 63 thousand. Again, extrapolation from early voting data in 2008 indicates a comfortable lead for Obama.

Ohio
In Ohio, only about 29% of voters have early voted so far. Early voting in Ohio is not tabulated by Party affiliation. But the two most highly Democratic counties in the state (Cuyahoga and Franklin) have early voted so far by much higher rates (36% and 37% of the total 2008 voter turnout) than the rest of the state, which is mostly Republican (21%). This is similar to early voting rate patterns by county observed in 2008 in Ohio, when Obama won by a comfortable margin.

Wisconsin
Not much early voting has occurred in Wisconsin. But since Wisconsin is one of the very few states in the country that has same day voter registration, typical polls of “likely voters” are likely to underestimate the Obama lead in Wisconsin. Added to the comfortable and growing Obama lead of 4.2% in Wisconsin, that should translate into an Obama victory in Wisconsin.


In summary

Late polling data in Wisconsin, Iowa, Ohio, and Nevada, in addition to analysis of early voting in Iowa, Ohio, and Nevada, shows a strong likelihood of a comfortable Obama win in each of those states, which together provide more than enough electoral votes to win the presidency, when added to those the 20 non-competitive, safe Obama states.

Therefore, if the official vote count should show a Romney victory on Election Day, intensive investigations, including a review of exit polls, carefully observed recounts and forensic examinations of electronic voting machines, should be demanded prior to an Obama concession.

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Path to Victory: Wisconsin, Ohio, Nevada, Iowa – Early Voting and Polls Suggest Clear Obama Victory (Original Post) Time for change Nov 2012 OP
Thank you- K&R. Am happy with this! KaryninMiami Nov 2012 #1
I was watching the Ed show tonight and michello Nov 2012 #2
Yes, it was a huge mess in 2004 too Time for change Nov 2012 #3
I remember the mess in 2004.. michello Nov 2012 #4
Sorry vdogg Nov 2012 #5
I agree it's hard to fathom how anyone can say that the Dems are losing in Ohio when the polls show Time for change Nov 2012 #7
I don't hold anything Jonathan Alter says as credible.. Cha Nov 2012 #6
It should be a win for Obama, but DemReadingDU Nov 2012 #8
They've got an awful lot to fix Time for change Nov 2012 #9
President Obama will win with 350 + ev. libtodeath Nov 2012 #10

michello

(132 posts)
2. I was watching the Ed show tonight and
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:21 PM
Nov 2012

Jonathan Alter was on there saying that Romney has a strong ground game in Ohio and that it's going to come down to the wire. Also, Ed was saying how the suppression in Ohio is so well organized that we(the Dems)are down 12,000 votes. They were saying that its going to be a hugh mess in Ohio. It's going to be a mess.

Time for change

(13,718 posts)
3. Yes, it was a huge mess in 2004 too
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:23 PM
Nov 2012

It should have been thoroughly investigated before the results were allowed to stand.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
5. Sorry
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:38 PM
Nov 2012

But gotta call bs on that one. What evidence does Ed site for dems being down by 12,000 votes when Ohio doesn't report party Id? Every poll taken has us winning early vote 60-40 and turnout in dem strongholds is matching 2008 levels. Just sounds like run of the mill concern trolling to me.

Time for change

(13,718 posts)
7. I agree it's hard to fathom how anyone can say that the Dems are losing in Ohio when the polls show
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 12:21 AM
Nov 2012

a reasonably comfortable lead and when early voting is disproportionately high in highly Democratic counties. Furhtermore, current polling involves many people who have already voted, which currently consists of almost 30% of the expected voter turnout for this year.

Cha

(297,689 posts)
6. I don't hold anything Jonathan Alter says as credible..
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:26 PM
Nov 2012

I've read of too many disingenuous mediawhore pandering that he's done over these last months.

Did they mention that the Obama Team has over 2,000 Lawyers on the ground, too? Ready to fight Voter Suppression?

Time for change

(13,718 posts)
9. They've got an awful lot to fix
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 09:57 AM
Nov 2012

It's going to be difficult to do that without leaving fingerprints.

The Obama team needs to be ready to challenge the results. If they intend to just roll over and accept whatever results are presented to them, so as not to cause waves, that would be a great mistake IMO.

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