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Sen. Turner - Husted tried to take away Early Voting - that's why he's the Secretary of Supression not the Secretary of State
*** This article is about the provisional ballot issue, there's also Early Voting, and the "Experimental patches" installed on voting machines 30 days ago against the rules since they weren't inspected
A series of missteps by the secretary of state and new rulings by the courts have increased the use of provisional ballots and could delay the outcome of the election and the legitimacy of the final vote.
In Cuyahoga County (Cleveland) and Franklin County (Columbus), voters who requested absentee ballots were wrongly told they were not registered to vote and should cast provisional ballots. The Cuyahoga County Board of Elections quickly followed up with 865 such voters, but in Franklin County a sample of rejected absentee ballot requests found that 38 percent were mistakenly listed as "not registered," according to an analysis by Norman Robbins of Northeast Ohio Voter Advocates. An untold number of would-be absentee voters could fall into this category in Ohio's other eighty-six counties. "The deadline has passed to send these voters absentee ballots," writes Robbins. "Therefore, there needs to be an immediate and broad public announcement that all voters who have been officially informed that they are "not registered' and who believe they truly are registered, should definitely vote a provisional ballot so that their votes might be counted when better searches are done on their provisional ballots." (A computer glitch by the secretary of state's office also delayed the processing of 33,000 voter registration forms, which Husted just sent to local boards of elections this week).
Moreover, any voter who requested an absentee ballot but decides, for one reason or another, to vote in person must cast a provisional ballot. Of the 1.3 million absentee ballots sent to Ohio voters, 1.1 million have been returned, according to Husted's office. But that still leaves up to 200,000 potential votes unaccounted for.
Recent court decisions will also impact the counting of provisional ballots. The US Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit found that ballots cast in the "right church, wrong pew" -- at the right polling place, wrong precinct -- must be counted, despite Husted's objections. But the court sided with Husted that ballots cast at the "wrong church, wrong pew" -- at the wrong polling place and wrong precinct -- won't be counted, and that election officials are not required to tell voters that they're at the wrong location.
A coalition of voting rights groups have filed an emergency injunction against Husted's last-minute provisional ballot directive. Husted's briefs are due in court by November 6. According to Ohio law, provisional ballots won't be counted until 10 days after the election. So, if the presidential election comes down to Ohio and the margin is razor-thin, as many are predicting, we won't know the outcome until well after Election Day. And only then will we find out how many eligible voters were wrongly disenfranchised by the secretary of state.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Eleventh-Hour-GOP-Voter-Su-by-Ari-Berman-121104-190.html
Panasonic
(2,921 posts)He has violated Ohio law, and made himself a criminal.
FarPoint
(12,444 posts)and Gov Kasich, (R)...for starters.
Panasonic
(2,921 posts)for failing to follow HAVA/Voting Rights of 1964.
FarPoint
(12,444 posts)This arrogant abuse must stop. Prosecution is an excellent start.
malaise
(269,172 posts)Thanks
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)but put a mini transcript below - he just basically denies there is any kind of problem but the 6th circuit did uphold his ballot filling out rule
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)flamingdem
(39,328 posts)the 6th circuit upheld the ballot filling out rule
LisaL
(44,974 posts)flamingdem
(39,328 posts)!!
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Spinning and lying his fucking ass off.
Handcuffs for this son of a b.
FarPoint
(12,444 posts)I'm listening to his spew ...he has his defense down pat....
LisaL
(44,974 posts)FarPoint
(12,444 posts)since I'm to mad to recall details.....
Essentially how he is following the voter state laws eliminated and reduced early voting...talked about the long lines......
Going to Court today over provisional ballots...how now they will be discounted if filled out incorrectly...He states he wants to qualify more votes...Hahaha...showed a copy of the provisional ballot....said the voter is more likely to be correct than the poll worker would be at filling out the form. He claims he wants to resolve this problem! Yea...at the 11th hour ! Claims he is not partial to either side.
Reassures there will be no recount...prepared for a close race.
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)Did he say they are going to court over that or Early Voting? So many issues!
FarPoint
(12,444 posts)They are headed back to Court today to stop the change in where the voter must fill out the provisional ballot instead of the poll worker.
The ORC identifies that the poll worker must fill the information out. Husted spewed something about the 6th Circuit Court ????
State Senator Turner was on to counter Husted's lies....
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)It looks like it's been in and out of the court over the weekend - he was holding up the ballot and said that - but that doesn't mean it's not going back to court today! 600 lawyers from the Obama team in OH have got to be on top of this!
FarPoint
(12,444 posts)I didn't get any updated emails telling me it had already been decided.
I will no doubt get a final update as a Poll Observer....need to be fully prepared.
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)What is your area? Good luck!!
FarPoint
(12,444 posts)The good thing...lots of his signs were blown away in the storm.
Lots of embedded Democrats without signs...Going house to house proved that to me....they keep their support close to the vest so to speak. I'm encouraged. We have had several Obama Rallies....fabulous support...Dayton, Springfield, Lima, Columbus, Cincinnati....Early voting is good. In Dayton...waiting in line to vote is reasonable. I didn't go down this weekend to check...reports were not negative. I have someone there now in line to vote...waiting for feedback.
The southern, Centerville, Oakwood and Kettering area's are strong Romney with again...quite stealth democrats.
Going North on I-75 thru Troy, Piqua, Sidney...Romney dominance.
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)Some DUers saying that makes no sense because it should be a gotv day?!
FarPoint
(12,444 posts)Romney was going to Grandville, Ohio....That and Newark Ohio go red I believe. Upper crust $$$ folks.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)If anybody believes that, I have a really nice bridge for sale.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)DMacTX
(301 posts)justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)So, how do state laws begin to trump Constitutional law? This is what I don't get.
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)on ballot saying voter more likely to get that right than the poll worker.
(Husted imposed a rule that if there is a tiny mistake in that data the ballot is invalid)
He's trying to "resolve this issue" it's a matter of who fills out the form, at the 11th hour we're discussing it, I'm not partial to who does it. (yeah right)
Do you think they will be a recount?
The voters will decide the outcome, we are prepared for a close race, voting early has gone smoothly.. everybody great job no glitches ... blah blah
Pundit: 4-5000 votes are provisional in Ohio, people move a lot, many lawsuits will follow.
Jansing: what are the chances of a recount in Ohio
Weigel: need a quarter of a percent to have a recount, not that likely
LisaL
(44,974 posts)Has it been decided? I don't see that anywhere.
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)Recent court decisions will also impact the counting of provisional ballots. The US Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit found that ballots cast in the "right church, wrong pew" -- at the right polling place, wrong precinct -- must be counted, despite Husted's objections. But the court sided with Husted that ballots cast at the "wrong church, wrong pew" -- at the wrong polling place and wrong precinct -- won't be counted, and that election officials are not required to tell voters that they're at the wrong location.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Eleventh-Hour-GOP-Voter-Su-by-Ari-Berman-121104-190.html
LisaL
(44,974 posts)Since they will still count the ballots from people in the right polling place but wrong precinct.
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)bit under control but there will be more shenanigans!
LisaL
(44,974 posts)With all the shenanigans going on, why should people who are registered to vote not have their vote counted if they went to the wrong polling place?
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)this could end up in a the courts, that was also his way of saying "well I've done what I could and I'm not interfering now". But he mostly got what he wanted -- to reduce the vote count for Democrats and it is too close for comfort.
I'm trying to find info on what the lawyers are doing there, especially the injunction over the Experimental Patches. One more day!
.99center
(1,237 posts)Oh, another open top 4 was used, INVALID. Hmm, is that a z or s, INVALID. Oops, you used a checkmark instead of an X in the box, INVALID. Etc....
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)for election fraud.
Atman
(31,464 posts)You know CNN, that other "liberal" news station. Oh, wait, they're ALL liberal except Fox.
Anyway, he was pointing out how this software patch was not an issue, because it was merely a new way to download the votes directly to the tabulators. The voting machines and tabulators are two entirely different machines, see? You cast you vote, then the vote gets sent to the tabulator...not problem! There is nothing to worry about.
Of course, the CNN asshole, I think John Roberts, follows up with the hard-hitting question: "So there is nothing vicious in this new software?"
WTF did he think Husted would answer??? "Oh, yes, John...nothing to worry about, but there IS something vicious in the software in that, after you've cast your electronic vote, our new software can then flip it before it is sent to the tabulators in real time."
He claimed the "benefit" was, everyone will get to see the results tabulated in REAL TIME! Does anyone else see how dangerous this is? They can report supposed "real" results even as they're being cast and flipped, before even being certified by the SOC! This is so clearly another Ohio vote-rigging scam, it just makes me sick to my stomach. it will be like Bush's cousin on Fox News calling the election before anyone had a chance to verify it. This is VERY VERY bad!
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)the freepress.org is reporting on this. They're trying to cover that up but it's clear it falls into the category that has to be inspected and approved and this was not. VERY suspicious. They're trying to get an injunction and FBI computer forensic team on it.
I asked about how they got the information regarding the experimental patches and freepress.org who posts here said: We got it from Wikileaks!
LisaL
(44,974 posts)He isn't supposed to be installing experimental software for the election.
And yet there he is.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)with Ohio State Senator Nina Turner.
What I wouldn't give to see a cage match between her and Husted.
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)Previously she said that they had been inspected but on Ed's show yesterday she acknowledged that there is no reason to be experimenting with elections at this late date - referring to the Experimental Patches that were just illegally installed on voting machines.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Given that they know they can do it and won't face any prosecution for it, let alone criminal sanctions?
A laundry list of felons of the worst variety walk free and still infest our political system because we have allowed them to. What will change this time?
Nothing.