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Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 08:36 PM Nov 2012

If Obama wins tomorrow and the house stays in republican/teabagger hands...

And If the republicans in the house keep up the obstruction of everything the democrats do to try and straighten this country out, I'd hate like hell to be the GOP at mid term time.

I think the people know the truth even if a lot of them are to racist to admit it. The GOP is killing off America, one day at a time. Why I really don't know, because it's their country too. I don't think the USA is too big to fail if the bleeding keeps up. I am literally worried sick.

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If Obama wins tomorrow and the house stays in republican/teabagger hands... (Original Post) Hubert Flottz Nov 2012 OP
Republicans are nearly a lock to control the house and with Obama as president nothing of importance jody Nov 2012 #1
The thing is, most of there crap in the House was to prevent POTUS teddy51 Nov 2012 #2
ESPECIALLY if THe President has nothing to lose... Volaris Nov 2012 #22
without having to run again Obama will be able to be more openly vocal Johonny Nov 2012 #3
I agree. savalez Nov 2012 #26
Tonight they're thinking "What did we do? That was the most SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #4
They'll have that 12% approval rating to deal with, too! n/t arcane1 Nov 2012 #5
If they really had that approval they would not be re-elected. former9thward Nov 2012 #11
that approval rating applies to everyone else's congresscritter 0rganism Nov 2012 #21
My hope is, if they do keep control, at least enough of the Teabaggers will lose that they.... Up2Late Nov 2012 #6
I am hoping with no reelection worries marlakay Nov 2012 #7
Problem is, he can say whatever he wants to SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #9
We need him to be like that president in West Wing marlakay Nov 2012 #15
Obstruction Worked Fabulously for the GOP in 2010 AndyTiedye Nov 2012 #8
If that happens, then every day at the WH Daily Briefing, no_hypocrisy Nov 2012 #10
We will work on that problem in the 2014 election. nt ladjf Nov 2012 #12
Watch Obamam Call these Wellstone ruled Nov 2012 #13
I hope you're right. Hubert Flottz Nov 2012 #14
I hope he does Spirochete Nov 2012 #23
Thanks for reminding me about the midterms! flamingdem Nov 2012 #16
If we don't get the House back Obama's only option is to go hard left. joshcryer Nov 2012 #17
I will dig that! Hard left! Woohoo! lonestarnot Nov 2012 #18
In his speech tonight he said "I'm willing to work with everyone." joshcryer Nov 2012 #20
If Obama wins, house/senate stays the same Ztolkins Nov 2012 #19
RE: The House ChangeUp106 Nov 2012 #24
"Their constituents are . . . re-electing them" and also re-electing Obama. nt jody Nov 2012 #25
Uh... not exactly markpkessinger Nov 2012 #27
 

jody

(26,624 posts)
1. Republicans are nearly a lock to control the house and with Obama as president nothing of importance
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 08:41 PM
Nov 2012

requiring funds that must originate in the House will get done.

 

teddy51

(3,491 posts)
2. The thing is, most of there crap in the House was to prevent POTUS
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 08:42 PM
Nov 2012

from gaining a second term. Things might be different once they have nothing to gain by impeding progress (one can hope, anyway).

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
22. ESPECIALLY if THe President has nothing to lose...
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 01:49 AM
Nov 2012

He can go out and campaign HARD to get them all kicked out in the Mid-Term elections. You think THIS campaign looked like hardball? WAIT till Team Obama doesn't have anything better to do with their time than tear apart no-talent, low-intelligence incumbent and wannabe TeaParty Congressman. The GOP can either spend the next 2 years shooting themselves in the foot, or the 2 after that shooting themselves in the head.=)

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
3. without having to run again Obama will be able to be more openly vocal
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 08:43 PM
Nov 2012

about the Republican house if he wins. As he said he believes he can push through several things no matter who the house leaders are. I imagine he believes that because he understands the tables will be turned somewhat. He never has to run again, they are promising results so they can win in 2014. The blame game is reversed.

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
4. Tonight they're thinking "What did we do? That was the most
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 08:45 PM
Nov 2012

ridiculous idea anyone could have come up with and it didn't come near to working". I hope that's what they're thinking and they'll get back to the work at hand.

0rganism

(23,957 posts)
21. that approval rating applies to everyone else's congresscritter
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 01:11 AM
Nov 2012

overall, people tend to be okay with representation in their home district -- after all, chances are decent that they voted for the guy in the first place.

Up2Late

(17,797 posts)
6. My hope is, if they do keep control, at least enough of the Teabaggers will lose that they....
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 08:51 PM
Nov 2012

...get the message that we are sick of their crap and they start to get in line.

Truly I hope ALL of the Teabaggers lose, but my bigger worry is that what usually happens, happens again. That being, most of them lose this time, but since fewer people turn out for the off-year elections, a bunch of them, or a new batch, get elected in 2014.

marlakay

(11,473 posts)
7. I am hoping with no reelection worries
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 08:53 PM
Nov 2012

He will be tougher on them. He can say honestly...I tried to go the bipartisan route but you are forcing me to have a line in the sand.

Actually I think this is why the republicans don't want him reelected they are afraid of this.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
9. Problem is, he can say whatever he wants to
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 08:55 PM
Nov 2012

If they won't vote with him, they won't vote with him. He can't make laws on his own.

marlakay

(11,473 posts)
15. We need him to be like that president in West Wing
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 12:31 AM
Nov 2012

I remember congress was doing the same thing to him over something and he walked over to the speaker of the house's office and at first he refused to see him. He sat down in the hall and waited outside his office with full court press watching the whole thing.

He can do stuff like that…it would take a lot of balls but he could do it.

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
8. Obstruction Worked Fabulously for the GOP in 2010
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 08:54 PM
Nov 2012

It hasn't hurt them one bit this year. Why should 2014 be any different?

no_hypocrisy

(46,119 posts)
10. If that happens, then every day at the WH Daily Briefing,
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 09:00 PM
Nov 2012

their transgressions will be highlighted and names will be given. They will take responsibility for their actions or rather, their inactions.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
13. Watch Obamam Call these
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 09:45 PM
Nov 2012

turds out after the elections. If you doubt my forecast,you haven't been doing your homework. Notice all the legal stuff that has gone to courts in the last month.

Spirochete

(5,264 posts)
23. I hope he does
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:12 AM
Nov 2012

I hope he takes every possible opportunity to point out that Boehner and Turtlehead made it clear that their ONLY priority was to deny him a second term, AND THEY FAILED AT THAT!!!

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
17. If we don't get the House back Obama's only option is to go hard left.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 12:41 AM
Nov 2012

He cannot work with them and he should know it. The compromising stuff is bullshit. There will be a debt battle in 2013 (which he admittedly himself made happen, keeping one of his more right wing campaign promises). It's going to be ugly if we don't get the House back.

Also they need to change the filibuster rules if they are going to remain relevant.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
20. In his speech tonight he said "I'm willing to work with everyone."
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 01:03 AM
Nov 2012

C'mon, Obama, that's what got you in this mess in the first place!

I understand that sort of bipartisan thing is sort of necessary to avoid political football, but... once reelected, it doesn't matter anymore!

Call those fuckers out. There will be more more election while in office. If we don't regain the House we can get it back in 2014! Just play hard ball. Get 'er done!

ChangeUp106

(549 posts)
24. RE: The House
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:16 AM
Nov 2012

The House clearly will stay Republican. I fear Obama will once again try too hard to work with them and they'll set him up (again). I really would love for Obama to just say "F them" and go left for once come next week. "George W. Bush style" as Maher says.

As for the GOP House calming down: why would they? They won't have to answer to their constituents. Their constituents are more or less the ones driving this nonsense and re-electing them.

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
27. Uh... not exactly
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:47 PM
Nov 2012

Since individual members of the House are elected by the majority of voters in the congressional district they represent, and presidential electoral votes are awarded (in the case of most states) on a winner-take-all basis based on the majority vote by state, you are dealing with two different methods of determining majority votes. Thus, it is quite possible for a state in which the statewide majority of voters lean one way, while the majorities in a large number of congressional districts lean another. (Pennsylvania is a classic example of this). If vote majorities were tallied the same way for both House members and the Presidency, then you could reasonably infer that individual voters were splitting their votes between parties. But since they are tallied differently, there is no basis for inferring that.

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