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w8liftinglady

(23,278 posts)
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 10:08 PM Nov 2012

Texas may just be blue soon....

Update: Texas Reaches Record Number of Registered Voters on Voter Registration List for November 6 General Election

http://www.sos.state.tx.us/about/newsreleases/2012/101912.shtml

AUSTIN, Texas – Texas Secretary of State Hope Andrade today announced Texas reached a record number of registered voters on the Official List of Registered Voters. As of Friday, October 19, Texas has 13,646,226 registered voters; the highest number in state history. Tuesday, October 9 was the last day to register to vote in the November 6, 2012 General Election.

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Texas may just be blue soon.... (Original Post) w8liftinglady Nov 2012 OP
This is the state I'm watching because underthematrix Nov 2012 #1
The chance of that is zero. LisaL Nov 2012 #3
The chance is non-zero IDoMath Nov 2012 #27
Nope, I've been listening to my friends on Facebook down here TBF Nov 2012 #23
Maybe by 2020 Quixote1818 Nov 2012 #36
look at these numbers.... what if this happens in Texas? It would be blue DonRedwood Nov 2012 #41
It's coming, and when it does it will stay Blue,..at least until the Texas Revolution DMacTX Nov 2012 #2
Which will be sooner than you think Ter Nov 2012 #21
My son's main goal CthulhuShadow Nov 2012 #4
Kudos to your son. And I hope it happens. I'm a native Texan who moved away, came codjh9 Nov 2012 #6
Texas going blue would be the gop death nail standingtall Nov 2012 #5
Me neither! Trailrider1951 Nov 2012 #7
I live in DEEP south TX where it's all blue but trebor1069 Nov 2012 #8
They will probably kill the electoral college DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #9
That would require a Constitutional amendment Art_from_Ark Nov 2012 #16
Or the National Popular Vote Compact IDoMath Nov 2012 #25
Interesting concept Art_from_Ark Nov 2012 #35
It's the same problem as instant runoff voting IDoMath Nov 2012 #37
I can see where a Romney popular vote/Obama electoral vote situation Art_from_Ark Nov 2012 #38
My hope would be IDoMath Nov 2012 #39
Let them. Hugabear Nov 2012 #42
Why this will never happen mick063 Nov 2012 #45
Tarrant freakin county! A dem GOTV in that county would turn things around QUICKLY. Then it'a a... uponit7771 Nov 2012 #47
Keep working fellow-Texans and the state will definitely go blue sadbear Nov 2012 #10
That's a possibility. TBF Nov 2012 #24
It's his for the taking. sadbear Nov 2012 #28
Kicking for three Texas icons DemoTex Nov 2012 #11
+Hightower and Moyers :) justabob Nov 2012 #13
5 Texas icons: I stand corrected! DemoTex Nov 2012 #14
YES!! justabob Nov 2012 #15
yay us! justabob Nov 2012 #12
Lets not kid ourself. theoldman Nov 2012 #17
all the cities went for Obama last time except Ft Worth justabob Nov 2012 #18
Your belief about Austin is way out of date. kentauros Nov 2012 #33
A simple ground game GOTV in Tarrant county will tun the state blue, it's low hangin fruit uponit7771 Nov 2012 #48
I think it will go blue in the next 4-8 years, but here in my very rural, very red part of the state PATXgirl Nov 2012 #19
Texas will go blue if Tarrant County (Fort Worth) MrsBrady Nov 2012 #20
I live in Grayson County. bmbmd Nov 2012 #22
I agree with that Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #29
Not now but within a generation libtodeath Nov 2012 #26
YEAH! VA_4_Democrats Nov 2012 #30
Yes Texas and Georgia... RedCloud Nov 2012 #31
I've been patiently waiting southmost Nov 2012 #32
Texas was blue in 1976 and 1968. happyslug Nov 2012 #34
Texas Might turn Blue in 2016 if.............. 2roos Nov 2012 #40
Oh great, more scars on my tongue. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #43
My daughter is casting her 1st vote in Texas Liberal Mommy Nov 2012 #44
I did my part last week Major Nikon Nov 2012 #46
 

IDoMath

(404 posts)
27. The chance is non-zero
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 10:59 PM
Nov 2012

Slim but non-zero. With the high number of registrations, the Latino presence, NM already turned blue and the state turn blue from the south up... It could happen.

2016 is more possible but 2012? Yes, a minor miracle could happen.

TBF

(32,064 posts)
23. Nope, I've been listening to my friends on Facebook down here
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 10:52 PM
Nov 2012

and they are insane. BUT, the young latino demographic shift could change things substantially in the next 15 years.

CthulhuShadow

(11 posts)
4. My son's main goal
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 10:13 PM
Nov 2012

is for Texas to turn blue for his first election in 2016. He's already working on his classmates.

codjh9

(2,781 posts)
6. Kudos to your son. And I hope it happens. I'm a native Texan who moved away, came
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 10:16 PM
Nov 2012

back, and then left again. But I get tired of it being so damned Red. But it was Blue for years - in the ol' Southern conservative-moderate-Dem mold, before it started going Red-Red-Red. I'm talking about the 50's, maybe 60's ... probably 40's too ... if my dad was still alive he could tell me for sure (but yes, I know, I could look it up).

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
5. Texas going blue would be the gop death nail
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 10:14 PM
Nov 2012

We've already got California's 55 electoral votes, as well as New Yorks 29 electoral votes in our pocket. Florida is already a swing State with 29 electoral, and if we add the 38 electoral votes of Texas too. Then the party is truly over. I cannot wait for that day to come.

Trailrider1951

(3,414 posts)
7. Me neither!
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 10:19 PM
Nov 2012

It is coming, maybe not this year, maybe not next, but the tide is coming in, and will overtake those conservatives, who have nothing for the common man, and wash them away! Yah, from my keyboard to God's ears, LOL. I think it will happen, but gradually.

trebor1069

(4 posts)
8. I live in DEEP south TX where it's all blue but
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 10:21 PM
Nov 2012

the rest of the state needs LOTS of work! I think 2016 is realistic.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
16. That would require a Constitutional amendment
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 10:30 PM
Nov 2012

It's not likely to happen, especially considering since 1876, the Republicans have taken the White House 3 times (1876, 1888, 2000) by winning the Electoral College while losing the popular vote. The Democrats have never done that.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
35. Interesting concept
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 11:34 PM
Nov 2012

I notice that all states that have signed on to the compact so far have recently all been "blue" states. While I support popular election of the President in theory, the devil is in the details.

For example, let's say that the Republican wins the popular vote, but the Democratic candidate wins all the signing states and would have become President if the old system had been in place. I could see a lot of lawsuits resulting from that.

On the other hand, it would actually give my vote some value, since my state's electoral votes almost always go to the other candidate.

 

IDoMath

(404 posts)
37. It's the same problem as instant runoff voting
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 12:55 AM
Nov 2012

The party out of power supports it and the party in power blocks it. An Obama electoral win / Romney popular win would be great for this movement IF the current backing states don't withdraw.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
38. I can see where a Romney popular vote/Obama electoral vote situation
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 01:06 AM
Nov 2012

might encourage some Romney states to sign on, but I think it would also cause the present signers to take another look at their support.

On the other hand, if this had been in place in 2000, we would have had President Gore, with no Supreme Court interference, and GWB would have been just a footnote.

 

IDoMath

(404 posts)
39. My hope would be
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:33 AM
Nov 2012

That that memory is still fresh and raw enough that current supporting states would not withdraw just because the tables turned.

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
42. Let them.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:49 AM
Nov 2012

If they get rid of the electoral college, they can kiss their chances of ever winning another presidential election goodbye. If we didn't have the electoral college, then Bush would not have won in 2000 (I know, technically he shouldn't have won the electoral vote either).

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
45. Why this will never happen
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:24 AM
Nov 2012

South Dakota gets two Senators.


Big money wants South Dakota to have two Senators.

You throw out the electoral college, and the populists will be screaming for a more representative legislative body to align with it.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
47. Tarrant freakin county! A dem GOTV in that county would turn things around QUICKLY. Then it'a a...
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:54 AM
Nov 2012

...matter of the burbs in the south...not voting dem but getting them OUT to vote dem.

The rest of the state is almost a lock with Latino voters and here the Latino vote is NOT a LIV especially amongst the youth.

TBF

(32,064 posts)
24. That's a possibility.
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 10:54 PM
Nov 2012

A dem governor would help and I'm hoping Julian Castro has an eye on that spot.

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
28. It's his for the taking.
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 11:00 PM
Nov 2012

And I'm not just saying that either. A Castro candidacy could ignite the change in the Texas electorate that's expected to happen sooner or later. I'd prefer sooner.

justabob

(3,069 posts)
12. yay us!
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 10:25 PM
Nov 2012

That is really good news about voter registration! I keep hoping beyond hope that the hispanic GOTV effort makes a difference this year, but I think it will be next time. It is a shame that the dems didn't capitalize on the Ron Paul stuff and the general dislike for Romney. We'd be a lot closer to that goal of a purple/blue Texas.

theoldman

(3,674 posts)
17. Lets not kid ourself.
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 10:33 PM
Nov 2012

I live in the DFW area and it is about 90% Republican. I believe that Austin is about the only large city that is predominantly Democrat. The only way that Texas can become blue again is for the Hispanics to become heavily Democrat.

justabob

(3,069 posts)
18. all the cities went for Obama last time except Ft Worth
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 10:36 PM
Nov 2012

San Antonio, El Paso, Houston, Austin, Dallas. I live in DFW too. It will definitely take some work, but it can be done.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
33. Your belief about Austin is way out of date.
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 11:04 PM
Nov 2012

It's a meme that gets repeated here and elsewhere too often, probably because people don't want to do any research.

Dallas County made national and even international history when they elected Lupe Valdez for Dallas County Sheriff. Not only voting in a woman in that role, but a Hispanic lesbian woman! In North Texas, the part of the state known by us all as the belt-buckle of the Bible Belt.

And then Houston made national history by voting in the first lesbian mayor (Annise Parker) of a major city.

You might also look at a county-by-county voting map, especially of South Texas in the Valley. Last time I checked, it was blue with purple tinge on the northern edges.

PATXgirl

(192 posts)
19. I think it will go blue in the next 4-8 years, but here in my very rural, very red part of the state
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 10:36 PM
Nov 2012

It won't be this year.

MrsBrady

(4,187 posts)
20. Texas will go blue if Tarrant County (Fort Worth)
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 10:38 PM
Nov 2012

goes blue.

It's been driving me crazy for several years....
The party needs to spend some freaking money here.
We could win it. Drives me nuts.

Also, Fort Worth has some of the highest population influx in the country.
That will help to turn it blue

We need more women and hispanics voting, and Texas has some of the lowest percentage of female voters.

We need help.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
34. Texas was blue in 1976 and 1968.
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 11:06 PM
Nov 2012

And Texas went Democratic in every election from its admittance into the union in 1845 till 1980 except for the following:

1. 1972 and Nixon's landslide
2. 1956 it went with Eisenhower.
3. 1952 Texas voted for Eisenhower
4. 1928 and Hoover's landslide
5. In 1868 when it could not vote for it was under Reconstruction
6. In 1864 it was in open Rebellion against the US.
7. In 1860 it went with the Southern Democrats of Breckenridge over the Northern Democrats under Douglas.

Total Democratic Victories 26, 27 if you add the 1860 election when Texas went to the Southern Split of the Democratic Party. Now 1980 is the start of Texas going Solidly GOP, which it has in every election since (Thus Texas is 26-13-1-1-1, Democratic - GOP - Under Occupation during Reconstruction - In open rebellion - voting for a Southern Democrat instead of the Main Democratic Candidate).

http://www.100bestwebsites.org/alt/evmaps/electoral-maps.htm

2roos

(26 posts)
40. Texas Might turn Blue in 2016 if..............
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:40 AM
Nov 2012

Hillary Clinton (P) and Julian Castro (VP) -Mayor of San Antonio -great speech at the DNC - might bring Texas into play - the big cities are blue- but the rural and suburban areas are the confederacy.

Liberal Mommy

(202 posts)
44. My daughter is casting her 1st vote in Texas
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:57 AM
Nov 2012

My eldest will get to vote for the 1st time tomorrow. Her fiancé is also voting for Obama. She has 3 sibling future voters. As parents, I believe we can teach our children about equality, in both economic & social situations.

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