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There is a lot of pre-emptive celebration going on here. The fact is that a Nate Silver Forecast or a Princeton Forecast isn't worth a single vote. Remember John Zogby? He got an election right too. Would you trust him for anything today? Silver was 49-1 last election and he could easily be 40-10 this election. If Silver is 40-10 this election, Obama likely loses.
Do you really believe that a candidate that was down an average of 3% in two polls today in Florida has a better chance of winning the state than he did yesterday? It's unbelievable.
The fact is that it's too early to get confident (or cocky in some cases). The work is not done. The goal has not been reached. Nate Silver's forecasts mean nothing. Tomorrow could be a catastrophe and we should be ready for it. It would make 2004 on DU look like New Years Eve.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)tomorrow.
i dont get people saying, everyone calm down. like you think people feeling good is going to jinx things.
when i walk in to vote tomorrow, i am going to enjoy it. because i think we are going to win. and i am going to feel good with other dems that are going to be in that line.
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)While listening to Air America and hearing about the exit polls that had Kerry winning Florida and Ohio. I know the pain of "feeling good" too well. That said, I will enjoy voting too.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i hear what you are saying.
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)What are you gonna do about it?
MADem
(135,425 posts)Swagger on, my friend, swagger on!!
I was managing a bit of quiet certitude, hoping that my sense of the feelings of the electorate weren't off the mark! I stayed busy driving people to vote to the point of exhaustion...I couldn't even stay awake for the speeches. I'll have to do some "catch up" today!
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)I think there's some shenanigans going on there, and PA because apparently Stephanie Cutter says it's "tightening" there.
Thekaspervote
(32,773 posts)ellie
(6,929 posts)like we are 20 points down. It ain't over till it's over.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)But, here's the thing: all the serious statisticians and political scientists who've been running the numbers on polling data predict an Obama victory; it's not JUST Nate Silver or Sam Wang, it's also Drew Linzer, and Andrew Tanenbaum, and several others. The state-level polls in several swing states vs actual turnout tomorrow would have to be wrong to an unprecedented degree for Romney to win. I'm not saying it can't happen; my mood is one of cautiously guarded optimism. I'm prepared for the possibility of a Romney win, but I'm not expecting it.
codjh9
(2,781 posts)the Prez, the Senate, and gain in the House. And I hope like hell it happens.
K8-EEE
(15,667 posts)Do you really think that any of us are not going to vote??
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)I intend to do my part tomorrow.
Why don't you try a "Keep Calm and Carry On" approach? It might ease your troubled mind.
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)cynatnite
(31,011 posts)There is nothing wrong with hoping for the best and still being prepared for the worst.
fujiyama
(15,185 posts)I like numbers. Following the polls has been fun in a sick twisted way I suppose. I also like following the election projection/modeling sites. Nate strikes me as a sharp guy. He knows statistics and he knows how to interpret them, explain them, and model various interactions of different factors in repeated simulations, and spit out probabilities. Very cool! And what's cooler, is that it favors our candidate. But that's not a real election.
The polls are based on a million factors and ultimately it's garbage in, garbage out. The polls may potentially be statistically biased against Romney, as Nate said. Maybe the likely voter models are off across the board. We don't know that. Is it likely? No. The probability is low. But we all know that to win, Democrats rely on the least reliable voting groups. So far the early voting has been encouraging. But tomorrow is the real enchilada.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I know all data does point in one direction, but like you, after 2004 I simply do not get giddy until the kitchens indeed hatch.
trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)....I don't think anyone is dancing and or stupid about this... most folks on DU have a pretty decent clue that this isn't in the bag as far as I can tell
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)And a few about rubbing it in.
trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)doesn't comfort me one damn bit.