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Hating Dan Rather's Guts (Original Post) bigtree Nov 2012 OP
why does rachel keep bringing him on her show? barbtries Nov 2012 #1
Have seriously questioned Rather ever since.... RhettScarlett Nov 2012 #31
Last night he told Rachel nervous eating was making him consume 3000 calories every hour soleft Nov 2012 #2
3000 calories an HOUR?!? No wonder he's messed up. berni_mccoy Nov 2012 #9
I saw him shilling for scumney on the Rachel Maddow show a week ago meadowlark5 Nov 2012 #3
Rather was for George Bush Whisp Nov 2012 #11
Ah. I never paid close attention to Dan Rather other than when he did the news back in the day meadowlark5 Nov 2012 #15
I doubt that very seriously considering the Bushes hate Dan Rather Bandit Nov 2012 #21
Dan Rather stood by George W. Chimperor Whisp Nov 2012 #22
Really? He lost his job at CBS for exposing Bush "military service" (nt) question everything Nov 2012 #23
he was not against the Iraq war. Whisp Nov 2012 #25
Lost his job because he thought typewriters in 1971 could produce superscript KurtNYC Nov 2012 #32
Super-rich people always have good days slackmaster Nov 2012 #4
Guys, come on. kstewart33 Nov 2012 #5
you missed the play on words bigtree Nov 2012 #8
Well done! randome Nov 2012 #20
Oops. My bad. eom kstewart33 Nov 2012 #30
i saw the old man (i think that is relevant) on maddow twice. both times he oddly parroted her. seabeyond Nov 2012 #6
I kinda like the dude bigtree Nov 2012 #12
ya... that is kinda what it felt like. seabeyond Nov 2012 #37
something annoying about her show last night was that it seemed devoted to why Obama would lose CreekDog Nov 2012 #33
i didnt watch it. i havent watched a lot of the coverage because i feel so much is to make a seabeyond Nov 2012 #38
Once a fool, always a fool. speedoo Nov 2012 #7
No surprise skeewee08 Nov 2012 #10
dan rather is mr. doom and gloom. Javaman Nov 2012 #13
He is wrong libtodeath Nov 2012 #14
Well he did the 'Mia Culpa' for having toed the corporate line upi402 Nov 2012 #16
Let's think about it for a second. grantcart Nov 2012 #17
is the vote that fluid and impressionable? bigtree Nov 2012 #26
Its not fluid in terms of deciding but it is that fluid in terms of grantcart Nov 2012 #29
Yeah and something in his gut told him that memo was typed in 1973 on a typewriter, Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #18
Better than relying on a forged memo. nt geek tragedy Nov 2012 #19
can't take Brokaw either. n/t EC Nov 2012 #24
The gut is where "truthiness" comes from Beearewhyain Nov 2012 #27
I remember Rather calling the '00 election for Gore on CBS around 10pm. At that point I went to bed. Erose999 Nov 2012 #28
Wow, Rather was golden when he sacrificed himself going after Bush, MadHound Nov 2012 #34
What does he know? StarryNite Nov 2012 #35
I'm walking away from this cycle with far fewer favorites ecstatic Nov 2012 #36
I think since Dan Rather's guts are churning, we ALL need to send him some snailmail coupons nc4bo Nov 2012 #39
Jeez... countryjake Nov 2012 #40

barbtries

(28,798 posts)
1. why does rachel keep bringing him on her show?
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:55 AM
Nov 2012

i can't stand him either. and it's not as if he's bringing anything other than his long experience as a journalist as far as i can see, he just goes on her show and spews crap.

 

RhettScarlett

(34 posts)
31. Have seriously questioned Rather ever since....
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 04:37 PM
Nov 2012

That motherfucker got caught with his "fake but accurate" bullshit. What kind of amateur does that????

soleft

(18,537 posts)
2. Last night he told Rachel nervous eating was making him consume 3000 calories every hour
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:55 AM
Nov 2012

Maybe he's in a sugar coma

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
3. I saw him shilling for scumney on the Rachel Maddow show a week ago
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:56 AM
Nov 2012

I certainly never thought he was a true rethug.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
11. Rather was for George Bush
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 12:00 PM
Nov 2012

because he thought it was the right thing to do to stand by yer man in times of great grief, as 911 was.

He stood by his man and didn't say squat much about the illegal invasion of Iraq. He probably changed his tune now about the Iraq war, like so many do hoping we don't remember.

Fuck Dan Rather - he's no reporter/journalist/whatever, he's just one of the clowns. I don't think Rachel knows that yet and still sees him as some kind of freedom fightin' great newsman. She likes to smooze him for that reason.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
15. Ah. I never paid close attention to Dan Rather other than when he did the news back in the day
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 12:06 PM
Nov 2012

So I had no idea what his political leanings were.

If he's a Bush man, of course he's got a good gut feeling for scumney. That's how all these conservatives and repugs live - on belief and gut feelings. Facts don't figure into the republican narrative.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
21. I doubt that very seriously considering the Bushes hate Dan Rather
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 12:23 PM
Nov 2012

Dan Rather would not let up on Bush 1 over Iran Contra Scandal during one of the Presidential debates. I think Republicans hate the man very much even to this day...

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
22. Dan Rather stood by George W. Chimperor
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 12:29 PM
Nov 2012

after 911, cuz gosh golly he's my president!

If you have info that he was not in favour of the illegal invasion of Iraq and spoke out about it, let me know. Because I don't remember Rather or any other of those traitorous fucks go against the word of the Great Monkey's Wishes during those times. The only one I recall is Phil Donahue, who had major problems with the idea, and his ass was canned off NBC (was it nbc?).

so fuck Rather. with a rotor rooter.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
25. he was not against the Iraq war.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 12:35 PM
Nov 2012

he decided to be loyal to the mass murderer at the time.

maybe his conscience tried to make up later, or something.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
5. Guys, come on.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:57 AM
Nov 2012

Don't 'hate' the man simply because his sense of the electorate is different than yours.

Geez.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
6. i saw the old man (i think that is relevant) on maddow twice. both times he oddly parroted her.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:57 AM
Nov 2012

she was asking a question, for his opinion, and he could not give his own, but on both shows just repeated whatever she said.

i thought it odd then.

that might be what he was doing with scars, if they were looking for hope with romney.

after seeing those two interviews with maddow, i think he is in a certain place, due to age.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
12. I kinda like the dude
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 12:01 PM
Nov 2012

. . . he's so at odds with the establishment that it's hard not to take his side against the Bush defenders who still despise him for his truth telling about AWOL.

My dad had Alzheimer disease . . .

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
33. something annoying about her show last night was that it seemed devoted to why Obama would lose
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 04:59 PM
Nov 2012

...if he lost.

interesting question to talk about, but if it's most of the content of the show, then the show has become non-fact based speculation.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
38. i didnt watch it. i havent watched a lot of the coverage because i feel so much is to make a
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 05:11 PM
Nov 2012

competitive race that is not there.

she will go after obama as fast as a repug. BUT.... she does call out a lot of stuff others do not talk about.

i am glad i didnt watch last night.

speedoo

(11,229 posts)
7. Once a fool, always a fool.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:57 AM
Nov 2012

Rather is not very smart. Worse yet is the fact that he is gutless.. Only a gutless dumbass could have been exposed by Poppy Bush on national tv.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
13. dan rather is mr. doom and gloom.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 12:05 PM
Nov 2012

he's mr debby downer every time he's on Rachel.

I can't listen to the guy. He sounds like he's going to slit his wrists every time he give his two cents.

I respect Rather, but his time has come and gone (sadly), the whole report on morons* sketchy service record took a massive toll on him. We know he was correct but the powers that be squashed him.

Now he tries to come across as the "reasonable" voice and just comes of instead like a gigantic wet blanket.

upi402

(16,854 posts)
16. Well he did the 'Mia Culpa' for having toed the corporate line
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 12:09 PM
Nov 2012

He got dealt dirt for his efforts. Rachel supports him - so there's something there.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
17. Let's think about it for a second.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 12:11 PM
Nov 2012

If you really hated Romney and wanted him to lose,

and

if you knew that it was going for Obama if you get the people to vote

then

if you appeared on national TV to give an opinion would you say something that would make people complacent

or

would you say something that would scare the beejezus out of people so that they wouldn't stay home

but

go and stand in a line for 4 hours in Florida.



Just sayin' sometimes when the other side takes your knight its because you want them to take your knight.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
26. is the vote that fluid and impressionable?
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 12:37 PM
Nov 2012

I don't know. Seems like a long shot; probably no more effective (if you're scheming) to just be straightforward. I think Rather has tried to be a straightshooter; not always on the mark.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
29. Its not fluid in terms of deciding but it is that fluid in terms of
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 01:16 PM
Nov 2012

who is willing to stand in line in the Florida sun for 3 hours to vote.

Just saying that what Rather is saying is exactly what Michael Moore is saying, and I think it is for the same reason.

Go and Vote


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/30/michael-moore-mitt-romney_n_1843824.html

If it makes people angry enough to vote, it helps.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
18. Yeah and something in his gut told him that memo was typed in 1973 on a typewriter,
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 12:13 PM
Nov 2012

when it was actually Microsoft Word with all of the default settings.

Beearewhyain

(600 posts)
27. The gut is where "truthiness" comes from
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 12:37 PM
Nov 2012

but I'll rely on Nate Silver's numbers. And Electoral-vote.com . And Polster.com ...etc. etc. etc.

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
28. I remember Rather calling the '00 election for Gore on CBS around 10pm. At that point I went to bed.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 12:40 PM
Nov 2012

Of course, it was quite a rude awakening the next day.

I trust Rather more than most newsmen, but not concerning his "sense of the electorate".
 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
34. Wow, Rather was golden when he sacrificed himself going after Bush,
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 04:59 PM
Nov 2012

But if he dares to express an opinion other than Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy about Obama's chances, whoops, under the bus he goes. Typical around here, sadly typical.

ecstatic

(32,707 posts)
36. I'm walking away from this cycle with far fewer favorites
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 05:03 PM
Nov 2012

Going forward, it's just Al and Martin for this viewer.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
39. I think since Dan Rather's guts are churning, we ALL need to send him some snailmail coupons
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 05:19 PM
Nov 2012

for Imodium AD, Pepto Bismol and/or Kaopectate.

Print them out, cut them out, fax them, snailmail, tweet, email - method doesn't matter.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
40. Jeez...
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 05:28 PM
Nov 2012

nothing like expanding that axis of evil, get a grip man!

Rather sacrificed his career to try and bring down the bush regime, so now he's not allowed to make a critical observation?

I think that everyone's "guts" are in turmoil today, nightmares do come true (as proven in 2000)!

My gut is worried to death about the gubernatorial race is my state and tons of good journalists here are expressing that same feeling today. I sure don't condemn them for uttering such a thing.

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