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drm604

(16,230 posts)
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 01:34 PM Nov 2012

Video of Voting Machine Altering Vote THIS MORNING!!!

Last edited Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:33 PM - Edit history (1)

Share this far and wide.

Edited to add: I don't know if this is real or not. I've seen claims that it's been debunked. I've also seen a claim that this machine has been taken out of service. It's getting enough attention so if it's real I imagine we'll hear about it.

Edited a second time to add that MSNBC is reporting that this machine has been taken out of service:
http://tv.msnbc.com/2012/11/06/machine-turns-vote-for-obama-into-one-for-romney




My wife and I went to the voting booths this morning before work. There were 4 older ladies running the show and 3 voting booths that are similar to a science fair project in how they fold up. They had an oval VOTE logo on top center and a cartridge slot on the left that the volunteers used to start your ballot.

I initially selected Obama but Romney was highlighted. I assumed it was being picky so I deselected Romney and tried Obama again, this time more carefully, and still got Romney. Being a software developer, I immediately went into troubleshoot mode. I first thought the calibration was off and tried selecting Jill Stein to actually highlight Obama. Nope. Jill Stein was selected just fine. Next I deselected her and started at the top of Romney's name and started tapping very closely together to find the 'active areas'. From the top of Romney's button down to the bottom of the black checkbox beside Obama's name was all active for Romney. From the bottom of that same checkbox to the bottom of the Obama button (basically a small white sliver) is what let me choose Obama. Stein's button was fine. All other buttons worked fine.

I asked the voters on either side of me if they had any problems and they reported they did not. I then called over a volunteer to have a look at it. She him hawed for a bit then calmly said "It's nothing to worry about, everything will be OK." and went back to what she was doing. I then recorded this video.

There is a lot of speculation that the footage is edited. I'm not a video guy, but if it's possible to prove whether a video has been altered or not, I will GLADLY provide the raw footage to anyone who is willing to do so. The jumping frames are a result of the shitty camera app on my Android phone, nothing more
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Video of Voting Machine Altering Vote THIS MORNING!!! (Original Post) drm604 Nov 2012 OP
I had forwarded this video to "Chris Matthews- MSNBC" Daayyummmboi Nov 2012 #1
Congratulations. You win the prize. HERVEPA Nov 2012 #2
You actually counted the posts? drm604 Nov 2012 #9
This has been debunked and is being promoted... Junkdrawer Nov 2012 #3
Link? drm604 Nov 2012 #8
Here Junkdrawer Nov 2012 #10
Excellent Diayya kansasobama Nov 2012 #4
. Go Vols Nov 2012 #14
How can there be 309 views but 5,700+ likes and 297 dislikes? angstlessk Nov 2012 #5
Because on YouTube StarryNite Nov 2012 #16
Wow drm604 Nov 2012 #6
Well, I appreciate it renate Nov 2012 #11
You've been vindicated Oilwellian Nov 2012 #15
People were rude to jump on you. StarryNite Nov 2012 #17
I believe this theinquisitivechad Nov 2012 #7
MSNBC has verified the machine was taken out of service. gvstn Nov 2012 #12
Yahoo has a HUGE article on this incident as well: Melinda Nov 2012 #13

Daayyummmboi

(50 posts)
1. I had forwarded this video to "Chris Matthews- MSNBC"
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 01:37 PM
Nov 2012

Along with the background story. We will see what happens.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
2. Congratulations. You win the prize.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 01:38 PM
Nov 2012

You are the 1000th person to post this here. Any source, where it allegedly occurred?

drm604

(16,230 posts)
9. You actually counted the posts?
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:05 PM
Nov 2012

You have way too much time on your hands.

I'm trying to help and all I get is criticism. This looks like a machine that is out of registration, which can be just as bad a problem as intentional fraud.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
3. This has been debunked and is being promoted...
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 01:41 PM
Nov 2012

to take the pressure off more legitimate touch-screen voting concerns.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
10. Here
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:10 PM
Nov 2012

I went through the video frame-by-frame.

At frame 160 in the video, the video editor left in a bit of the masking he used to remove the finger pressing the Mitt Romney button. The finger seen in the video does not match the finger in the reflection. The remainder of the "button pressings" are freeze-frame switches, where the action is frozen and a frame inserted, and none of the other Mitt Romney checkbox flashes have a gradual change, like the first one did, indicating a frame swap.

Anyone can do what I did to find out its a fake. Get any Youtube video downloader add-on for your web browser, and the freeware video editor Avidemux.

If Republicans had rigged the voting machines, they wouldn't have been so keen on preventing people from voting. This is just some Romney sympathizer trying to whip up despair in liberals.

....

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/06/1156736/-EVIDENCE-2012-Voting-Machine-Switching-Obama-vote-to-Romney

kansasobama

(609 posts)
4. Excellent Diayya
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 01:44 PM
Nov 2012

These posts are ridiculous. Are these from trolls to make us sweat?

Proof/precinct?

Diayya. You did the right thing. Complain to the correct place. I sent it to Democratic HQ.

Stop whining here, send it to the correct person.

StarryNite

(9,446 posts)
16. Because on YouTube
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:52 PM
Nov 2012

an automatic view count freeze kicks in at around the 300 mark. Later on the views will show up. It usually takes quite awhile though.

renate

(13,776 posts)
11. Well, I appreciate it
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:16 PM
Nov 2012

This place gets so squirrelly sometimes. One day you're laughed at for worrying about tabulators and GOP plans to squelch voting, and the next everybody's all OMG about it. I don't post half as often as I'd like to because I'm nervous about the response I'd get.

I believed the video when I saw it (if it's been debunked, I'm relieved) and I believed that the results in Ohio were funky in 2004 and I believe that the GOPers who own the companies that produce and maintain these machines are bad people who are not honest brokers of the vote. Thank you.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
15. You've been vindicated
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:52 PM
Nov 2012

A post below links to MSNBC confirming the machine has been taken out of service. I believe you're owed an apology from some very rude DU'ers.

StarryNite

(9,446 posts)
17. People were rude to jump on you.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:54 PM
Nov 2012

But you know what they say, 'No good deed goes unpunished'.

Thanks for posting it though. I know I'm not the only one to appreciate it.

Melinda

(5,465 posts)
13. Yahoo has a HUGE article on this incident as well:
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:36 PM
Nov 2012

Watch: As voters head to polls, reports of problems start pouring in
By Yahoo! News | The Ticket – 1 hr 0 mins ago

By Lylah M. Alphonse, Yahoo! News

An unexpected glitch almost caused one central Pennsylvania voter to cast his ballot for the wrong candidate, highlighting concerns about voter fraud on an already tense election day.

"I initially selected Obama but Romney was highlighted," writes Centralpavote on YouTube. "I assumed it was being picky so I de-selected Romney and tried Obama again, this time more carefully, and still got Romney."

A software developer, he tried troubleshooting the screen. "I first thought the calibration was off and tried selecting Jill Stein to actually highlight Obama. Nope. Jill Stein was selected just fine. Next I de-selected her and started at the top of Romney's name and started tapping very closely together to find the 'active areas.' From the top of Romney's button down to the bottom of the black checkbox beside Obama's name was all active for Romney."

A few more taps and he discovered that the only way to select Obama was to click on a small sliver of the screen. All of the buttons for the other candidates seemed to work fine.

Other voters at the precinct didn't have the same problem, he said, and the volunteer didn't seem concerned. "She him hawed for a bit then calmly said, 'It's nothing to worry about, everything will be OK,' and went back to what she was doing," he wrote. "I then recorded this video."


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The same video in the OP is embedded in this article.

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