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librechik

(30,674 posts)
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:06 PM Nov 2012

can anyone tell me if/when these "crazy voting shenannigans" will ever be confronted?

And prosecuted/punished effectively? No one is even trying!

They've had at least 12 years to try to fix this appalling situation, with the hackable machines and the crooked partisan election officials in certain states allowed to count millions of votes. Not a peep, except to ridicule those who ask if we can find out what is happening through a legitimate investigation.

No, those who think we need to investigate our election system are "conspiracy theorists." What more can we be than theorists when our voting officials ignore evidence and won't hold hearings?

This democracy will fail if we don't get our Congresscritters to regulate federal elections in all the states to a single national standard. They have that power, but are afraid to challenge the Repubs, who love all the twiddly little local rules that they can scam and cheat with. They are willing to fight to the death over those quaint old rules, just like the Confederate States were willing to fight for state's rights. "State's Rights" is all about preserving slavery in a few states the Repubs can rule like the old days. There may not literally be slaves, but racism and all the other cultural eccentricities remain.

"States Rights" is an agenda to skew the power to minority states, which just happen to be havens for plantation owners and corporate monopolies. Freedom from regulation means freedom from the reach of the law--freedom to commit atrocities, to become minor potentates. This philosophy which bolsters oligarchs and treats everyone else like slaves.

And "State's Rights" gave us the electoral college which year after year steals our equal votes and gives them to slave-owning states, (as it were. )

That is unAmerican. Our next popular movement as Progressives should be voting reform, or nothing but gridlock and decaying economic power will be our future.

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can anyone tell me if/when these "crazy voting shenannigans" will ever be confronted? (Original Post) librechik Nov 2012 OP
And if you try to report machine problems on DU, you get jumped on and accused of being a troll. drm604 Nov 2012 #1
After the elections cheating is sometimes brought up-Republicans then scream point fingers at the LaPera Nov 2012 #2
Yes. When Occupy replaces our existing government and all its systems. Zorra Nov 2012 #3
They're always "mistakes" Lchickq DCKit Nov 2012 #4

LaPera

(6,486 posts)
2. After the elections cheating is sometimes brought up-Republicans then scream point fingers at the
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:20 PM
Nov 2012

Dems and then it's over to never be heard of again. After the election it's too late,, and most just don't care as each side pointing the finger at the other (republicans have this tactic down to an art) and if and when the truth finally does come out, the story is buried in the newspaper and it's old news, no one cares and nothing is done...As the republicans will do it again & again!

Karl Rove knows this very well, cheat all you want steal vote, hack electronic voting machines, as much as they please NOTHING has or will be done after the election and they know this....so it WILL continue and continue and continue....

You think something would of been done after the obvious & slimy tactics, cheating & voter purging in Florida in 2000 or the outrageous electronic voting machine hacking in Georgia in 2002 and OHIO in 2004 where they found 160k Dem ballots in the Sec. of States office republican Kenneth Blackkwell

NO, nothing can be done, nothing has been done and there's so many way to get rid of Dem votes....After the election it's too late! Republicans KNOW THIS AND WILL ALWAYS CONTINUE....THEY ALSO KNOW THEY CAN'T "WIN" WITHOUT CHEATING.....SO THEY HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE ONLY GAIN.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
3. Yes. When Occupy replaces our existing government and all its systems.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:25 PM
Nov 2012

Until we remove the 1% from power, they will never permit a sensible,accurate transparent voting process, as it would be completely contrary to their interests.

"An open and honest examination of the flaws in electronic voting will lead us to only one possible conclusion: electronic voting machines are dangerous to democracy because there is no way of ensuring their accuracy."
Rep. Dennis Kucinich, 2003

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