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marlakay

(11,471 posts)
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:03 PM Nov 2012

My daughter voted for Mitt today

in Colorado…I know her husband is military but I think he lied to her. He worked at pentagon last 3 years and told her that Obama lied about about the military being okay with the budget cuts.

She went on and on about how the cuts did effect them. He told her that advisors to Obama told the generals stuff that proved not telling the truth.

I have no proof but I think her husband twisted things or the generals did. They are the ones who turned my son n law from a dem over the 3 years to a republican. Then he worked on my daughter until she changed.

I couldn't believe she said she had to vote to keep her rights as a woman. I said I can't believe you said that since Mitt wants to take all of our rights away….when I said that or anything that made my points she would change the subject.

I will have to admit, with him being a officer I was surprised they stayed dems as long as they did. I feel sick to stomach after my conversation with her.

She said the lines are long in her area, she is outside Colorado Springs area. I just hope the people up north in Denver area come out stronger!

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My daughter voted for Mitt today (Original Post) marlakay Nov 2012 OP
Bummer... Rider3 Nov 2012 #1
Military tend to vote Republican. Panasonic Nov 2012 #2
They live near Air Force Academy marlakay Nov 2012 #5
Not true, military voter reg mimics the US SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #19
It is really simple to write her out of your will. FSogol Nov 2012 #3
My father was an elite JustAnotherGen Nov 2012 #4
I've been trying to unspread that rumor for so long!! SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #20
I was born at the tail JustAnotherGen Nov 2012 #29
He sounds like many I know, a treasure! And you made me cry SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #30
how can anyone "change'' you? blueknight Nov 2012 #6
I'm the wife of a retired officer, the culture of republicanism within TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #7
Agree..my ex was a LT Col... HipChick Nov 2012 #21
You do the best you can. Barack_America Nov 2012 #8
Colorado Springs is a Libertarian bastion. A woman voting republican is sad sad sad. JaneyVee Nov 2012 #9
And a reactionary monotheism bastion maxsolomon Nov 2012 #12
Yeah, I believe Michelle Malkin & other RWNJs live there as well. JaneyVee Nov 2012 #23
Obama never said the military was "OK with the cuts". maxsolomon Nov 2012 #10
I'm so sorry. I'm so glad I'll never have to go through that. Care Acutely Nov 2012 #11
Sorry to hear that. Either she is a low information voter, or way too dependent on her husband. HERVEPA Nov 2012 #13
She is a smart kid has masters in accounting marlakay Nov 2012 #16
CO springs is off the charts RED. I used to live there and it made my skin crawl. LittlestStar Nov 2012 #14
People who only take a casual look at politics can easily by swayed by others Democratopia Nov 2012 #15
thanks you are right marlakay Nov 2012 #17
I hate that Colorado Springs area. Arugula Latte Nov 2012 #18
Especially the Air Force Academy. It's like being sucked into TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #22
Thankfully, my son and daughter are both Democrats RebelOne Nov 2012 #24
What can you do other than love your daughter no matter what choices she makes Politicub Nov 2012 #25
How in God's name could she think she's protecting her "rights as a woman"? Iris Nov 2012 #26
We need to move Military people into civil jobs (imo) PowerToThePeople Nov 2012 #27
May she never come to regret her vote. KitSileya Nov 2012 #28

Rider3

(919 posts)
1. Bummer...
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:05 PM
Nov 2012

But what's really sad is that she didn't do her own research. She just took what her husband said as fact. That's the problem -- we have ill-informed people casting votes. I hope she'll learn to use her own head in the future.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
2. Military tend to vote Republican.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:05 PM
Nov 2012

I take it it's at Ft. Carson where your daughter is based? It is heavily Republican, so it is not surprising.

Obama will win here in Colorado, it'll be close though, maybe 52-54%.

marlakay

(11,471 posts)
5. They live near Air Force Academy
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:11 PM
Nov 2012

off base in Monument. She said all the signs in her neighborhood are for Mitt, no surprise.

They do tend to vote that way, like i said surprised they lasted as dems for ten years. All of their military friends over all the bases they have lived in most all were republicans so maybe little by little they just gave in….

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
19. Not true, military voter reg mimics the US
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:50 PM
Nov 2012

Now, the Republicans who are in the military (in my experience) are a lot more vocal than the Democratic ones.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
4. My father was an elite
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:10 PM
Nov 2012

Officer (Green Beret) in the 60' and 70's and he was always a Democratic - Always.


It's the folks that got commissioned under Bush that are die hard Republicans.

My father died last August and died believing Republicans should never be commander in chief - too many candy asses in his age group. .. So it's not all military. ;-_

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
20. I've been trying to unspread that rumor for so long!!
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:53 PM
Nov 2012

In my immediate family veterans are exactly 50/50 R's to D's.


And to your fighting man, of the Green Berets! If you guys spent time at Bragg, we might have crossed paths.

I'm very sorry for your loss...

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
29. I was born at the tail
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 07:17 AM
Nov 2012

End of his career in Weisbaden, West Germany - and spent my formative years abroad. . And thank you for honoring his service - though he always said it was "my job god dammit!".

This is who my dad was:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/JustAnotherGen/29

And I kept his voice mails from election night 2008. And I listened to them again.

Yeah dad! Yeeeeeeaaaaah!

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
7. I'm the wife of a retired officer, the culture of republicanism within
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:15 PM
Nov 2012

the military is often too strong to resist, especially in the officer ranks. They are surrounded by it. My husband was continually subjected to Fox news BS and Obama bashing (and before that, Clinton bashing). It's very entrenched. I feel bad about your daughter.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
21. Agree..my ex was a LT Col...
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:56 PM
Nov 2012

He and his colleagues were Rethug/Birther leaners....it's very strong in the ranks

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
12. And a reactionary monotheism bastion
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:22 PM
Nov 2012

Focus on the Family is based there.

Ironic, considering the economy of the entire city is dependent on Federal spending.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
10. Obama never said the military was "OK with the cuts".
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:19 PM
Nov 2012

I'm always amazed that GOP voters simply do not have the facts, and base their votes on ignorance.

They were proposed specifically to be unpalatable to the GOP congress. They are, but they're still ready to drive off the cliff. Myself, I want those cuts to be 10x as large - the military is weaponized Keynesian economics, and defense contractors the largest welfare queens there are.

May your daughter never have to suffer the consequences of her myopic vote.

Care Acutely

(1,370 posts)
11. I'm so sorry. I'm so glad I'll never have to go through that.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:19 PM
Nov 2012

I'm just lucky. I don't know how I would react to that.

marlakay

(11,471 posts)
16. She is a smart kid has masters in accounting
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:43 PM
Nov 2012

but doesn't pay attention to politics like we do and over the last few years won't talk it with me.

She is totally in love with her husband and would do anything for him. For the first few years she tried to stay as a dem while he changed and he just slowly worked on her.

I have another woman friend here where I live in my bookclub married to republican. She is a very dependent sort of person and if it wasn't for all of us outspoken strong women fighting back every month to all the things her husband tells her I think she might have changed too.

LittlestStar

(224 posts)
14. CO springs is off the charts RED. I used to live there and it made my skin crawl.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:31 PM
Nov 2012

So sorry about you daughter!

 

Democratopia

(552 posts)
15. People who only take a casual look at politics can easily by swayed by others
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:34 PM
Nov 2012

in their life or by seeing Mitt Romney appearing like he really cares, and the litany of Obama's "failings." Your daughter is not the only one - there are tens of millions who have been taken in by the propaganda. It is very disheartening. I know, as my wife and her family are Republicans. I get very upset about it.



marlakay

(11,471 posts)
17. thanks you are right
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:45 PM
Nov 2012

she doesn't follow it like we do, very busy with her two children and they are mentoring some of the younger people at the academy so she helps with that spending time with them.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
18. I hate that Colorado Springs area.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:47 PM
Nov 2012

Awful, awful place...I hope I never have to go there again.

I'm sorry. Your daughter got brainwashed. The U.S. military has a lot of experience in brainwashing, unfortunately.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
22. Especially the Air Force Academy. It's like being sucked into
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:59 PM
Nov 2012

a swirling fundie right wing black hole. Pretty much every academy grad ends up being a RW tool.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
25. What can you do other than love your daughter no matter what choices she makes
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 04:03 PM
Nov 2012

I can't for the life of me understand why a woman would vote for anyone in the GOP. Even if they're anti abortion, people should never, ever vote away a right, even if they don't ever plan to exercise that right.

It's so hard to win any civil right, and so easy to have them taken away.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
27. We need to move Military people into civil jobs (imo)
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 04:08 PM
Nov 2012

It sucks that it may be hard on lifelong military families, but we do not need to spend so much on war. They will have to work domestic jobs to build this country, not kill people from other countries.

She, in essence, voted in support of advancing the Military-Industrial complex.

This is all, "just my view."

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
28. May she never come to regret her vote.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 04:11 PM
Nov 2012

I know we talk a lot here about hoping the Republicans feel the consequences of their policies, but right now, I just hope with all my heart that she will never be in a situation where her vote will come to bite her in her posterior. Should, heaven forbid! Romney win tonight, I hope she will never have to realize how much of her rights as a woman the Republicans want to take from her. That she will not lose her husband from their reckless war policies. That she will not suffer when her husband retires, and won't get the medical care the VA should give him but won't be able to because the Republican will de-fund them. That she will never be in a situation where her children cannot go to college because the Republicans have removed Pell grants and made student loans impossible to service. And so many other ways the Republicans want to make the lives of ordinary men and women more difficult - that since she is your daughter, I hope she will never have to repent for casting that vote today.

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