Just shout the f**king thing down now and let's start over with paper ballots counted with observers present...

setting up the 'steal' in PA. Remember when RobMe went back there and everyone was WTF????

PA is a strange state. Pollsters say it's 2 big cities on each side (Philly and Pittsburgh) and very 'Southern Red' in the middle...but there aren't that many in the middle.

that number also. My 86 year old aunt tried to vote for Bob Casey and it kept flipping to Tom Smith. She even had one of the poll workers try it and the same thing happened. Nobody there knew what to do, that is a shame, she did not get to vote in that race.

Because republicans have to cheat to win.

ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever eve rever ever eve rever ever eve rever ever ever flip the other way, do they?

So please people, don't tell me I'm being paranoid

from a few weeks ago regarding an early voter who claimed her Romney vote was flipped to Obama. The programmer looked into it to recalibrate the machine but whatever he tried, he could not find such a vote flip. But some news outfit ran with the story. I didn't believe for a second that this jackass really had any problem with her vote and just wanted to cause justification for all the "voter fraud" crap these dirtbags are trying to pull and lied from the get-go. It's truly disgusting.

What a coincidence.

2004 electronic vote fraud case. What he has to say will have you in disbelief!

..this way, it doesn't show up in testing unless the time and date are changed in the Bios to match the code.

..and it can be set to go back to normal after a set period as well, so if checked later on, all will appear normal.

Fucking Machines.. Don't see ballots doing that unless there's a crooked poll worker who's tossing them or whatever.. or a teresa la pore who designed the ballot to confuse voters.

A couple bottles of water and an energy snack such as granola and a blanket wrap for long lines, a fifty foot tape measure just to insure that campaign workers are following the law and most important a smart phone ready to take videos of me casting my vote just in case it flips

Lou

Thanks

anyone that follows him on Twitter can snag it, he said it live on CNN

Not stirring the pot!

nt

Could you copy that particular tweet and post it here?

n/t

same You Tube video

How many machines would have to be tweaked to flip the vote to change the outcome of the election in a tight race?

This fucking sucks!

NPR is linking to this, somewhere in PA:

I'm hoping this is a fluke. This is TOO overt, in my opinion, to be voter fraud. If they were going to fuck up the system they'd make it so you thought it was okay, but behind the scenes it was FUBAR. Not so the voter could clearly see it was wrong.

In fact, a program would need to go OUT OF ITS WAY to update the screen instead of just the numbers.

I know it's somehow 'exciting' to think that this is coordinated election fraud but it most likely is not.

A couple of malfunctioning machines is not enough to sway this election. Perhaps more will be found but it would have been noticed if it was more widespread than this.

Most likely the touch sensors behind he screen are malfunctioning or placed incorrectly or something.

Unless you have VVPATs and audits, you can't.

Unless you open the tabulating software to scrutiny, you can't.

But this specific instance appears to be a machine malfunction, not some clumsy attempt to sway some votes.

Republicans are stupid but they're not THIS stupid.

they are not this stupid. They were careless on a couple of the electronic voting machines, hence the visual discrepancy.

oh, and electronic voting needs to be made illegal

no one is buying the bullshit anymore.

NO ONE

The program would have to deliberately update the screen to reflect the changed vote. That's not 'carelessness'.

Ergo, the most likely explanation is faulty touch screen sensors.

Interesting that you seem to be ok with electronic touch screen voting

actually it isnt after reading your comments

Did you know that Mitt Romneys son holds interests in a particular touch screen company?

you know the son of the guy who is the other candidate?




Like I said no one is buying the bullshit anymore

I'm aware of all you said but I still say that doesn't explain why 2 machines out of how many tens of thousands malfunctioned this way.

It doesn't have to be bullshit to look at the facts dispassionately.

screw up his malicious code so that the screen displayed the vote flip would required lots of extra lines of code, not simply typos. When code has typos or simple errors in it, it just does not run.

It would be like shaking a box of bolts and expecting a toaster to come out fully assembled. It just doesn't happen.

It would indeed be far, far easier to flip the vote in the background so the voter would have absolutely no reason for concern.

Sorry, but your post just comes across as uneducated and irrational.

And no, I do not support electronic machines with no paper trail. Fortunately I got to vote on a paper ballot that is read by an optical scanner, but is available for human review if a recount is called for.

and worked debugging software for MRI machines in a previous job

when did i say typos? lol




Oh and,

No one is buying the bullshit anymore

Deliberate coding is needed to update the screen. That would not be carelessness. That would be a deliberate attempt to show the user that their vote is being changed, which kind of invalidates the idea that this is some sort of nefarious plot to 'secretly' change votes.

Get rid of illegal electronic voting and illegal optical scanning garbage machines.

I already stated that Mitt Romney's son owns financial interests in a electronic voting company.

If you are fine with this just say so and own it

I won't run around with my hair on fire until someone can convince me that my hair is, indeed, aflame.

Mitt Romneys son owns financial stakes in a electronic voting machine company


Mitt Romneys son owns financial stakes in a electronic voting machine company

Mitt Romneys son owns financial stakes in a electronic voting machine company

Mitt Romneys son owns financial stakes in a electronic voting machine company


I will repeat as necessary while you light your hair on fire with your fingers in your ears singing LALALALALA

t doesn't happen"

Isn't that how we got Romney in the first place?

That would explain why he isn't consistent on anything

A few here, a few there, kind of adds up somewhere!

But what are the odds that a Republican hacker would deliberately update the screen to reflect the changed vote? I'd say practically nil.

Makes you wonder how many times this has happened and if it has changed outcomes.

Her twitter account is:
Rachel Maddow MSNBC
@maddow

And don't deluge her online accounts with something unless we have more information.

As I say above, this is much more likely to be a touch screen sensor malfunction, nothing more than that.

Excuse me, that's wrong. Even third world countries have better systems.

This is no accident, it is a deliberate attempt to change the vote.

Were republicans the county officials in charge of elections in these counties? Does PA have a republican SoS?

I want to KNOW what can be done??? I DO NOT TRUST REPUKES & as I said on another thread, I believe it's TAG who bought into ESS&S machines in Ohio!

How do we know that there aren't Romney surrogates screwing things up too?? I can't take this stuff again!

as usual

and are funded and supported by the 1%

not surprising at all

And sent to a lab for testing. Since there is a potential crime here I don't believe that proprietary software rules apply. These things can be reversed engineered so answers can be found. It is long past time to get to the bottom of this. If it leads to corporate headquarters, so be it.

Cannot be left to states.

This could be as simple as the terminal needs to be recalibrated.

Having said that, I wouldn't cast my vote on a machine that doesn't register the correct vote. I would hope to think that noone else would either. If you select one candidate and it registers a vote for a different candidate.... take 2 steps back and ask to have the terminal removed as it is NOT registering the correct vote. Ask to be allowed to cast your vote on a different terminal and cast your vote there. If it also registers incorrectly, go back a couple of steps and start the process over.

If you're asked to provide a photo ID, provide a photo ID. If you're told months ahead of time that you're going to need a photo ID to vote, go get a photo ID.

I agree that there are problems, that several claims seem realistic and even suspicious. The idea that anyone associated with Mitt Romney owns any portion of any company that manufactures and provides voting machines to any state during a presidential election is definitely a question of ethics. But let's be serious here, we all have a responsibility to make sure that we don't cast a vote for the wrong candidate just because we're not prepared to step back, bring the issue to the attention of an official and ask to cast our vote on a different machine.

I cast my vote last Wednesday for a fine man. One that needs to remain in office for 4 more years. President Obama needs to remain in office to see this recovery through. I'm baffled as to how ANYONE could vote for Mitt Romney.

so thankfully, none of that electronic crap out here.