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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 02:25 AM Jan 2012

NYC retail workers' median wage is $9.50/hr, 70% get no health insurance

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/16/nyregion/study-offers-a-look-at-new-yorks-retail-workers.html

Retail workers in New York City earn a median of $9.50 an hour, most are part-time or temporary, and just 3 in 10 receive health insurance through their jobs, according to a new study of the city’s larger retailers.

The study, based on interviews with nonunion workers and released on Monday, largely found poverty wages and highly unstable schedules for the city’s retail employees, with less than a fifth having a set schedule each work week. The study said many workers had a hard time planning for, say, child care or classes because more than half learned their schedules a week or less before a work week would begin.

The study, “Discounted Jobs: How Retailers Sell Workers Short,” was led by a City University professor and was based on face-to-face interviews with 436 nonunion employees of retail businesses, ranging from high-end establishments on Fifth Avenue to discount stores on Fordham Road in the Bronx. The researchers went to department stores, electronics stores, home centers, clothing stores, bookstores and others.

... There was substantial evidence of wage and hour violations, the study concluded. About one in six workers said they had done work off the clock at least occasionally. More than one in three reported that they sometimes worked more than 10 hours a day, and a sizable number of them were not paid overtime when they did, as mandated by state law.
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hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
2. so 50% of them make less than $19,000 a year?
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 02:50 AM
Jan 2012

I don't see how that is possible when I have been told that $100,000 is just middle class in NYC because it is so expensive to live there. And yet 50% of retail workers are living there on less than $19,000 a year.

Hmmm.

Must be less than 5% of New York Citians working in retail or something.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
4. no, there is no skew on a median
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 05:35 AM
Jan 2012

take the set of numbers 3, 4, 5, 6, and 9,982.

The median of those numbers is 5, with half above and half below. The average is 2,000 or (3+4+5+6+9,982)/5

Although with larger sets it is harder to skew. If you have 9,999 at ten and one at a 100,000 the average is 20. The one outlier, although much, much larger than the rest, does not pull the average up that much. Whereas with 99 at ten and one at 10,000 the average is 110.

New York City, with perhaps 3 million households will not be skewed that much by a few billionaires even with an average, and a median is not skewed at all.

LooseWilly

(4,477 posts)
6. Hence the workers are probably all either living many-to-a-household or living with parents...
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 06:34 AM
Jan 2012

Because in NYC that's the only way to get by with retail wages, obviously... so 4 to a 2-bedroom is the new standard... but only until the retail conglomerates manage to hike profits while keeping wages stagnant for another few years, while landlords and other retailers continue to raise prices... resulting in yet lower real-wages for retail employees and the requirement that they live 3 or 4 to a room... 5 to a studio... 17 to a 2-bedroom... and on and on...

You can do studies on the mathematics of medians and averages and such-like all you like... but an actual analysis of the sorts of things that are done-without is a far more telling topic of research— assuming a research team can get enough trust and access for a reasonable sample for analysis. (Most likely, many of those polled about things they are "doing without" will be confused by a thing or three they are asked about... because the things that a middle-class interviewer is liable to ask about are liable to be things that a worker won't even be familiar with... like health insurance, or vacation pay... things that might as well be words in French... the words of the upper classes which ordinary folk just don't get. )

Health Insurance? Yeah, it'll cover some of the costs if I break a bone. Cleanly. I think I might get a deduction or discount on some medications too. They won't tell me which, but I'm sure it'll come up soon... at an employee meeting... soon... or later...

DireStrike

(6,452 posts)
14. You are exactly right except for one thing
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 01:10 PM
Jan 2012

These wages qualify one for medicaid. As long as you don't live with a spouse who makes too much, I suppose.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
5. My proposal.
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 06:12 AM
Jan 2012

Connect the minimum wage to inflation and tax the stock market that fuels the exploitation. I favor a two pronged attack on vampire capital.

I should also point out:

2014
Impose a $2,000 per employee tax penalty on employers with more than 50 employees who do not offer health insurance to their full-time workers (as amended by the reconciliation bill).[74]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act

LooseWilly

(4,477 posts)
7. How do you connect minimum wage to inflation? Tax the stock market?...
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 06:44 AM
Jan 2012

Hehe... even the tax penalty over insurance is a F*ing joke... my employer acquired an exception to having to provide "minimum" requirements, because, it was apparently argued that actually being forced to provide the legal minimum requirements regarding wages owed was just one of those things...

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
8. Those exceptions are annual and based on the idea that employment is temp...
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 06:55 AM
Jan 2012
"We don't want to take away people's health insurance before they have some realistic other choices,” HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said in an interview with The Hill earlier this year.

Republican lawmakers have seized on the waivers as proof that the law they want to see repealed is flawed, and they have accused the administration of giving them waivers as gifts to union allies. The administration has rejected both claims as Republicans on the House Energy and Commerce Committee have asked HHS for in-depth details about every waiver decision and request.

Most requests for waivers have been accepted, but dozens have been denied because they "did not demonstrate that compliance with the minimum annual limits requirements would significantly increase premiums or decrease access to benefits," an HHS spokeswoman told The Hill in January.

The waivers are meant as a stopgap measure until new state-run insurance exchanges open in 2014. Annual dollar limits will also be abolished by then.

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/147715-number-of-healthcare-reform-law-waivers-climbs-above-1000/


It's gradualism, and I say this as someone who's mother like you, works for one of these companies with a waiver.

You connect minimum wage to inflation through the Consumer Price Index: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_price_index

You tax the stock market by increasing the tax on financial transactions:

United States (1914-1966)

The US imposed a financial transaction tax from 1914 to 1966. The federal tax on stock sales of 0.1 per cent at issuance and 0.04 per cent on transfers. Currently, the US has a very minor 0.0034 per cent tax which is levied on stock transactions. The tax, known as Section 31 fee, is used to support the operation costs of the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). In 1998, the federal government collected $1.8 billion in revenue from these fees, almost five times the annual operating costs of the SEC.[31]
[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_transaction_tax#United_States_.281914-1966.29

Sirveri

(4,517 posts)
12. Same way they tie anything to inflation. Use CPI-W and have it automatically adjust.
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 01:06 PM
Jan 2012

Same as the Social Security COLA.

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