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yardwork

(61,700 posts)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:53 AM Nov 2012

In North Carolina, a good night for Republicans.

As summarized in this blog post at the loathsome wral.com in North Carolina, we are in trouble in North Carolina. The Republicans who seized power for the first time in a century in 2010 expanded their hold on our state legislature yesterday (thanks to extreme gerrymandering in the wake of 2010 census). The Rethugs now have a veto-proof majority in both the NC house and senate, not that they need it, because we just elected a Republican governor for the first time in 20 years. North Carolina didn't just turn red, it turned Tea Party.

Here comes fracking, offshore drilling, destruction of environmental protections, destruction of public education, defunding of health and human services. North Carolina wrote anti-gay bigotry into our state constitution last spring. The teabaggers have control and they are a fine collection of greedy ignorant good ol boys in the pockets of the Koch brothers.

I believe that this is the new Republican strategy. They may not be able to win on a national level, but they can pour money into state elections and confuse the low-information voters enough to seize control of states.

http://www.wral.com/in-nc-a-good-night-for-republicans/11745841/

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In North Carolina, a good night for Republicans. (Original Post) yardwork Nov 2012 OP
I'm so sorry. ananda Nov 2012 #1
Yes, it's depressing, but the wonderful national results make me feel strong. yardwork Nov 2012 #2
agree... but Tom Byron Nov 2012 #31
As I said in another thread, we're regressing in NC Hissyspit Nov 2012 #3
And now that there are even MORE conservatives in the general assembly ncgrits Nov 2012 #11
.... yardwork Nov 2012 #17
Oddly enough, that is an encouraging thought. yardwork Nov 2012 #12
This is the bittersweetness of the 2012 election. I am extremely concerned! nc4bo Nov 2012 #4
It's possible that the Republicans will overreach and North Carolinians will reject them. yardwork Nov 2012 #10
yep. fuggedy fuggedy fuggedy fuggedy fugg struggle4progress Nov 2012 #5
Well said. yardwork Nov 2012 #8
At least Mike McIntyre appears to have won Daniel537 Nov 2012 #6
That's one ray of light. yardwork Nov 2012 #7
I've no cogent words yet...still trying to process our state that shifted the car back into R. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2012 #9
I am so sorry. LisaL Nov 2012 #13
I think you have enacted an awesome plan. Let your neighbors suck on THAT for a while. nt ncgrits Nov 2012 #14
Good for you! We gardeneners are going to have to unite in the years ahead. yardwork Nov 2012 #15
My front yard.....just now NRaleighLiberal Nov 2012 #20
Awesome! Is that an aster by your mailbox? It's beautiful. yardwork Nov 2012 #22
it's actually a perennial chrysanthemum called Country Girl NRaleighLiberal Nov 2012 #30
LOL. mmonk Nov 2012 #28
Take heart in knowing that they'll screw it up. Barack_America Nov 2012 #16
Very true. yardwork Nov 2012 #18
It happened in Alaska, too. Blue_In_AK Nov 2012 #19
This is obviously the Republican strategy - takeover of states. yardwork Nov 2012 #21
I just read that our bipartisan coalition is no more. Blue_In_AK Nov 2012 #23
I was thinking about this today MFrohike Nov 2012 #24
Remember the hysterics the Republicans had when the Democrats redistricted in 1990? yardwork Nov 2012 #27
Republicans are notorious for over-reaching. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #25
North Carolina voters are already in the middle. The problem is the redistricting. yardwork Nov 2012 #26
In late spring of 2013, I plan a trip mmonk Nov 2012 #29

yardwork

(61,700 posts)
2. Yes, it's depressing, but the wonderful national results make me feel strong.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:58 AM
Nov 2012

None of this in North Carolina was unexpected. The polls predicted this outcome. It's been an unfolding disaster since 2010. Our job is to hunker down and fight the Republicans right here, right now.

Tom Byron

(7 posts)
31. agree... but
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:06 PM
Nov 2012

You are correct, but what is puzzling is that with the increasing population amonmg young and better educated, critical thinking people in the Triangle area of the state, I am a little shocked at the out come on the congressional level. Obama lost verty close overall which makes the congressional races even ore strange

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
3. As I said in another thread, we're regressing in NC
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:59 AM
Nov 2012

It's the mindset that kept sending Jesse Helms back to the Senate.

ncgrits

(916 posts)
11. And now that there are even MORE conservatives in the general assembly
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:09 PM
Nov 2012

it's going to get even worse before it gets better! I bet our early voting will one of the first things on the chopping block.

The new congressional districts, courtesy of the Republicans, make things likely to stay like this until the next census and (hopefully) a democratic governor come back around. I got gerimandered (sp?) out of David Price's district. And that sure sucks.

I'm feeling a little big like a Debbie Downer about NC this morning. We worked so hard, dang it!

But truthfully, the way it FEELS here and the people I know and love in NC give me hope! It really is a great state and we ARE going to move forward! . . . . Maybe just not as quickly as I had hoped.

yardwork

(61,700 posts)
12. Oddly enough, that is an encouraging thought.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:10 PM
Nov 2012

We came a long way despite Jesse Helms. Maybe we're seeing the last gasp of the old white racists, instead of a new takeover.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
4. This is the bittersweetness of the 2012 election. I am extremely concerned!
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:59 AM
Nov 2012

I am also starting to look for groups and organizations to stay in touch with.......we're going to need it.

Stupid, stupid people really put us in a mess. There will be no defense from an onslaught of teabaggery, selfish, dangerous legislation.

I told my husband last night about my anxiety and he said perhaps the Republicans will stand down on some of their more outrageous agenda for fear of not being re-elected and/or recognizing that the entire state does not agree with the teabagger ideology.

Our electorate is so very split between red and blue.

Dammit!

Going to go read your blog now......btw, I'm bluford2 and posted there last night. I didn't think they would post it due to the late hour.

yardwork

(61,700 posts)
10. It's possible that the Republicans will overreach and North Carolinians will reject them.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:09 PM
Nov 2012

They're drunk with power right now - maybe they will overreach and it will backfire. The Republicans also have a serious problem - the economy in North Carolina has changed drastically and is not going to magically improve. The strategy launched by Bain of outsourcing manufacturing overseas is not going to stop - the Republicans now controlling the state will continue to bleed it dry, and the result will be a worse economy, not more jobs. Furthermore, ramming fracking and offshore drilling through without any environmental protections - which is clearly their strategy - will destroy the tourist trade. These morans have no idea how close they are to shutting down North Carolina's economy entirely.

I only hope that they get the blame. Low-information voters will be told that its all Obama's fault.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,018 posts)
9. I've no cogent words yet...still trying to process our state that shifted the car back into R.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:09 PM
Nov 2012

this may be a state where the Rove-led carpetbombing of ads did just enough. I just went to my front yard and put my five reserve Obama Biden signs on my lawn - I am in a sea of red - not big of me, but I do want to rub all of their noses in it just a bit (before they come and steal them all).

yardwork

(61,700 posts)
15. Good for you! We gardeneners are going to have to unite in the years ahead.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:11 PM
Nov 2012

Grass roots coalition of gardeners and other environmentalists - we have a tough row to hoe.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,018 posts)
30. it's actually a perennial chrysanthemum called Country Girl
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:35 AM
Nov 2012

single pink, a lovely flower - I always have extra cuttings/rooted suckers - let me know if you ever want some.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
19. It happened in Alaska, too.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:14 PM
Nov 2012

We did have a bipartisan majority coalition in our state senate but four of those people lost their positions so now the senate, house and governorship are all firmly in R hands. There are several who are moderate which may save us, but our governor is firmly committed to selling Alaska off to the highest bidder. It's very troubling.

yardwork

(61,700 posts)
21. This is obviously the Republican strategy - takeover of states.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:24 PM
Nov 2012

The demographics are against the Republicans on the national level, so they are focusing on taking over states. The biggest problem with that is voter suppression. I'm certain that NC will have a voter ID law soon and we may lose early voting. We may lose paper ballots and get iffy machines forced on us. Our Democratic Secretary of State, Elaine Marshall, was reelected and that is a Good Thing.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
23. I just read that our bipartisan coalition is no more.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:37 AM
Nov 2012

It's now a pure republican majority with two very conservative assholes in the lead in the house and the senate. First item on the agenda is to give the BigOil companies here a $2 billion a year tax break without any promises from them to increase production (oil pays for our state basically, so this is a biggie that the old coalition had been fighting against) and they are considering whether to take on the abortion issue, which is really sick since AK has had legal abortions since before Roe. Alaska has exactly one mosque, but these fruitcakes want to make sure that we don't have sharia law.

Gaaahh, it goes on and on. I anticipate lots and lots of street protests in my future. Damn.

MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
24. I was thinking about this today
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:41 AM
Nov 2012

The two primary causes for the GOP to win so big here were the unending parade of scandals and the worst gerrymandering I've ever seen. NC sets the standard for gerrymandering in this country and this was seriously the worst case of it we've ever had. The question is what can be done right now to block the GOP agenda?

Nothing can be done about the scandals. They happened and only time will take away their sting. The gerrymandering issue might have some traction. I've hated that practice for a long time because I really despise how it distorts legislatures by creating safe districts. Sure, it's cool to see a really left-leaning district produce a liberal lion, but it seems that you get 10 Paul Ryans for every one of those. I don't mind if the legislature keeps drawing up the districts, as opposed to a commission or something, on one condition: they don't get access to voter registration or race/ethnicity statistics when they do it.* If the legislature had to draw up districts solely on the basis of number of inhabitants, we might be able to get away from this bullshit.

*I know there's a potential Civil Rights Act problem because of the allowance of minority-majority districts. I don't know if they are simply allowed or mandated.

It's just a thought I had today, but basic fairness in elections might be a topic that would distract the General Assembly from running the state into the ground. It's not that I think they give a damn about fairness, it's that it might have a chance to get traction in the state without the distraction of a election year.

yardwork

(61,700 posts)
27. Remember the hysterics the Republicans had when the Democrats redistricted in 1990?
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:41 AM
Nov 2012

It seems like the lawsuits are still going on. But once the Republicans got their chance they pounced.

Part of our problem is that our "liberal lions" are never all that liberal.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
25. Republicans are notorious for over-reaching.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:52 AM
Nov 2012

Let them legislate. In two years, we will see North Carolina voters running back toward the middle. New Hampshire tried the teabagger-republican experiment, that state's voters gutted the republican party there yesterday, giving democrats control of the Governor's slot and all of the Legislature.

yardwork

(61,700 posts)
26. North Carolina voters are already in the middle. The problem is the redistricting.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:39 AM
Nov 2012

We actually had an excellent turnout of Democrats in this election, yet the Republicans increased their majority in the state legislature and flipped control of the congressional delegation to them. Why? Gerrymandered new districts.

North Carolina voters will have to run well to the left to turn this around, preferably in time for the next census in 2020 so that the Democrats can redraw the districts. Between then and now we're up the creek with no paddle.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
29. In late spring of 2013, I plan a trip
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:54 AM
Nov 2012

to St. John's in New Brunswick, Canada and to Vermont as possibilities for my sons. They have some disabilities and I'm looking for the right environment for them to live given this. They need to become better drivers though because they don't much now do so due to motion and how it affects them.

I will be setting up a meeting in St. Johns with someone who is head of the court system there. They are friends of my cousin. I now have to look at Vermont resources. It's all such a pain in the ass but I have to be a good parent before I leave this earth.

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