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I Can't Believe We Still Have the Death Penalty in CA! (Original Post) cui bono Nov 2012 OP
damn, I missed that one.... mike_c Nov 2012 #1
I was just at the SOS site. GMO labeling failed too! cui bono Nov 2012 #3
Not all that surprising ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #2
I kind of live in my own little bubble. cui bono Nov 2012 #5
I am too. I didn't even know you all had it anymore. white_wolf Nov 2012 #4
I believe that all death penalty states were temporarily struck down while they complied with new grantcart Nov 2012 #7
Yesterday I was talking to one of my closest friends in LA who was working on that campaign. grantcart Nov 2012 #6
I'm surprised too, especially since Three Strikes was reformed. Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #8
I thought it would pass just on the economics of it lunatica Nov 2012 #9
Yeah... txdemsftw Nov 2012 #10

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
1. damn, I missed that one....
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:20 PM
Nov 2012

The Huffpost elections results hasn't called it yet, for unknown reasons, so I didn't see that it had failed. Damn.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
5. I kind of live in my own little bubble.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:29 PM
Nov 2012

I live around, hang around and work with people with very similar mindsets so some things seem so obviously understood by all that I get surprised.

Of course when I go pick up my Mom in the Santa Maria area, boy... that is some RW country there. I barely saw any presidential candidate signs around L.A. this time around and when driving through that area of CA heading up north there were quite a few Romney signs. Not as many as last election had for McCain though, not by a long shot. And try to get any decent talk radio in that area... ugh. I'm not kidding when I say that there were two stations coming in that were both running Hannity at the same time, then a couple other RW nuts and then it's all religious radio.

I'm fortunate to be able to not be bombarded with that stuff in my daily life.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
4. I am too. I didn't even know you all had it anymore.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:26 PM
Nov 2012

I remember reading Helter Skelter and it mentioned that Manson's sentence was commuted to life in prison because the State Supreme Court ruled the death penalty unconstitutional. I'm not in CA so that's all I know about it, but I honestly didn't think that had changed since the 60's.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
7. I believe that all death penalty states were temporarily struck down while they complied with new
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:32 PM
Nov 2012

automatic appeals processes mandated by the Supreme Court.

In CA its turned into an expensive farce taking decades with very few executions.


The recent proposition was offered not on moral grounds but on cost cutting grounds.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
6. Yesterday I was talking to one of my closest friends in LA who was working on that campaign.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:29 PM
Nov 2012

He told me that it was going to fail but it was getting closer.

He also told me that he thought that Brown;s 1/4 cent tax was going to fail.


I told him that next time they should have the proposition worded so that it was 1/4 cent tax addition to pay for the costs of the appeals and that if it failed that there would be no funding for it and they would be automatically commuted to life in prison. That way it was sure to get voted down and no more death penalty.


He laughed so hard he spilled his lunch. I could hear all of his friends at the lunch table at the restaurant howling with laughter as he explained my joke.


After a couple of minutes the laughter died down.


I could hear one of the guys at the table say "You know that could work" another said "You could actually write the resolution that way" and a third said "You could easily get that on the ballot".


There was some silence and then my friend said "Nice talking to you, we got to get back to work".


I wonder what happened with my little joke.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
8. I'm surprised too, especially since Three Strikes was reformed.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:37 PM
Nov 2012

I wonder why voters for one didn't cross over for the other one.

txdemsftw

(461 posts)
10. Yeah...
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:40 PM
Nov 2012

I have a friend up in Yuba City, CA who was bragging about it being upheld...ugh

I need new friends.

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