with nothing to show for it. He should avoid small planes.

I hope he crawls into a cave somewhere and we never have to deal with him to any appreciable degree again. I hope he has a LOT of millionaires and billionaires demanding their money back, too. He certainly will have no credibility with many of them again.

Can you imagine him ever asking for all that money AGAIN? I think he would get a very impolite response.

I disagree.

where ever he goes, until the end of his days.

Frankly if Rove makes it to 2016, I will be surprised.

Politically it was wasted, but economically $1B across swing states can only help stimulate their economies, boost job growth and renew hope.

So really, Rove was working on our side. Thanks Karl. We don't love you, but we thank you for the $$$.

so it was just another way for Rmoney to cash in. I am sure that Rmoney did not spend one dime of his own fortune. He is going to come out of this just fine.

... for someone in Romney's position running for president is a very effective wealth-transfer mechanism. I wonder what his net worth was before he got serious, versus what it is today?

I also wonder if paying yourself with internationally-'earned' money by buying ads on one of your own domestic radio stations could be a big money laundering/tax fraud scheme. I wonder if anyone is looking into that...

Thank goodness Rmoney didn't get a chance to run his vulture capitalist schemes on the whole country. He's been trying to do that for long enough as it is.

I want him to pay for what he did to Don Siegelman period.

There's no way he's free and clear of that one.

in a poke. Rove bilked them out of hundreds of millions. All of which went right down the fking sewer. Vinny the Fish and Machine Gun Tony might be making a call on KKKarl soon.

I'm betting Connell's widow had the last laugh last night as we watched him self destruct.

so they never really go away.

I never thought I'd see the likes of Snotnunu and Distort DaNewsa reappear after a decade of moldering in the ground... Yet they did stumble back on the scene. And so Rove may be down, but will make a comeback at some point down the road, with the promise of some sort of magical "tweak" to his failed strategies that some sucker will buy.

A joke.

me in the least. I wouldn't count him out until he's dead, dead, dead. There's still another Bush around, Jebbie-boy. Nope, I wouldn't say any funeral prayers for KKKarl just yet. It's those unhatched chickens.

just look what they do with Raygun

End of story.

We can close the book now.

but we must not forget the story line. We have to keep fighting these guys because there is no logic or mercy where power and money are concerned. The rats will just bleed through the cracks unless we fill those cracks.

i think when the last soldier leaves Afghanistan we can close that book. This was over a decade ago. what hell we endured and brought on the world.

I am glad to see him off the stage. I first met him when I was an impressionable teenager. He was a "Republican operative" speaking at a Presidential Classroom in Washington, D.C. The entire Republican party was about to be Watergated.

I didn't give up on the whole political thing then, but man was I surprised that the guy rose as high as he did in the echelons of power.

Enjoy your flight down, Mr. Rove.

Finally, Rove has become insignificant.

Saying that he was in charge of the Republican Party. See how your kingdom crumbled with you in charge, Karl?

I bet the Republican party is feeling a bit unnerved by that. Perfect slap down to the party of Rove!

Karl Rove trajectory from 2004 to the present.....Divine (or some kind of extraordinary) Justice!

Diabolical masterminds usually find a way to recover. Rethuglicons stick together, joined at the roots. So I don't know if it's the end of him, but it sure was a body blow.

Hannity may need to revisit "The Architect" greeting whenever Rove shows his face on Fox. From this pont forward his position in life will be to suck vast sums of money out of the Koch brothers' et all pockets and proceed to pour it down the sewer with nothing to show for it. Nice return, eh, guys??

Because he would have been a martyr to the Repubs. This way the Repubs are the one who will be after him with pitchforks. They wiil be the ones to punish him. They are the only people he deems to be of value.

Maybe it is really true that bullies and bad people will get theirs in the end. Don't see it happen too often.

not a genius.

Now everyone knows.

in the foreground of the moneyed few who happened to be in the right place at the right time. It could have been any number of available opportunists.

Thanks for the thread, Plaid Adder.

buh bye turd blossom!

The American people chose to re-elect President Obama despite the “conservative” right’s strenuous attempts to obfuscate the truth funded mainly by plutocratic “dark money”. We believe that the following facts drove the favorable outcome.

Americans believe in and want the separation of church and state. As long as you are not hurting other people or interfering with their civil liberties, you should be allowed to practice whatever crazy, nutbag religious beliefs you have (Evangelical Christians and Mormons come to mind here). However, those crazy, nutbag institutions are not to dictate the actions of government. Those of you in the South may be surprised to learn that this is written in the first amendment of a document called the “United States Constitution” and it reads, in part, as follows, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ...."

Americans want to maintain Social Security despite what “little brat” Paul Ryan may espouse. The average person simply does not save for retirement. Who knows why, maybe it is human nature, but it is a fact. Prior to the establishment of Social Security in the 1930’s, the average American died within two years of retirement. Since Social Security, this range has extended to over seven years. Not much has changed since the 1930’s when you consider the fact that the average Baby Boomer retiring today has saved less than $25K for retirement (in total). George W. Bush’s attempts to privatize Social Security resulted in a spectacular failure (one of a long list). This is why you often hear Tea Party members scream, “keep your government hands off our Social Security”. Airtight logic like that is what wins elections – for the opposition.

Democratic administrations have demonstrated that they can reduce the debt much better than Republicans can. See note 1 below.

Something had to be done about the unsustainable health care system. Ignoring one-in-six uninsured Americans is not Christ-like, especially in the world’s wealthiest (and “exceptional”) nation. Although poorly sold, the Affordable Care Act (aka “Obamacare”), has very popular and pragmatic features that will reign in the out-of-control health insurance industry. It’s a good step towards “single payer” which is what small businesses and entrepreneurs (the real job creators) really want and need to grow the economy.

Americans do not want to return to 1950’s by relitigating settled social issues such as a woman’s right to choose, civil rights, contraception, etc. Most of the Republican primary topics came across as foolish gibberish 100% counter to the wishes of average Americans. For example, most know that access to free contraception reduces the abortion rate. Which do the “conservatives” want?

Americans want real candidates to run for the nation’s highest office, not the clown show of Republican fools that were trotted out this year: Santorum, Bachman, Perry, Cain. Did we mention Santorum?

As an aside, voters in America’s economic centers are sick of a handful of overrepresented, yet unproductive “red” states obstructing progressive policy for the rest of the country. It is a perverse fact, but contrary to popular belief, those who make the most noise complaining about Federal spending are the same people who receive the most Federal dollars. See note 2 below.

Here’s to four more years!



Note 1)

Ronald Reagan:
Took office January 1981. Total debt: $848 billion
Left office January 1989. Total debt: $2,698 billion
Net change in debt: $1,850 billion

George H.W. Bush:
Took office January 1989. Total debt: $2,698 billion
Left office 20 January 1993. Total debt: $4,188 billion
Net change in debt: $1,490

Bill Clinton:
Took office 20 January 1993. Total debt: $4,188 billion
Left office 20 January 2001. Total debt: $5,728 billion
Net change in debt: $1,548

George W. Bush:
Took office 20 January 2001. Total debt: $5,728 billion
Left office 20 January 2009. Total debt: $10,627 billion
Net change in debt: $4,899

Barack Obama:
Took office 20 January 2009. Total debt: $10,627 billion
Total debt (as of the end of April 2011): $14,288 billion
Net change in debt: $3,661

Note: The Obama spending was mostly due to ongoing Bush era programs (such as the Iraq war of choice, devastating tax cuts, the unfunded Medicare part D and the TARP) and a devastated economy due to Republican deregulation of the financial services industry starting with the Phil Gramm Glass Steagall repeal.


Note 2)

States receiving the most federal funding per tax dollar paid:

1. West Virginia: $2.57
2. Mississippi: $2.47
3.
4.
5. Alabama: $2.03
6. Alaska: $1.93
7. Montana: $1.92
8. South Carolina: $1.92

I'm going to need to take some time to really read this. It really deserves to be an OP!

Welcome to DU. I look forward to your comments.

was truly a stunt to behold. I'd not discount him now, tho, as power is never easily relinquished, especially wherever the mighty profits of capitalism are involved. But I appreciate your excellent essay, in that you've shone one bright light on the mechanizations of just one of these weasels, once again.

I thank you for that.

Hubris, thy name is Rove.

Does anybody think the multimillionaires will give him truckloads of money again?

Nope. Didn't think so.

Bake

Maybe Turd Blossom should finally go to college and learn something.

fixed the voting-- as he had in the past-- but somehow it hadn't kicked in the way it was supposed to and wanted them to wait for it before calling Ohio.

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Thank God we have come up with a plan to quash their election-stealing scheme: fight like hell! It's no longer a secret that the repukes use every dirty trick in the book to get their wholly incompetent candidate 'elected,' but we've shown that by fighting back, we reclaimed our constitutional right as Americans to have our votes counted. And I know that next time around, we will again prevail.

unfortunately, KKKarl is as poisonous, insidious and toxic as anthrax. He could flare up again at any time.

But I really do hope that you're right.

if anything the demise he has caused to Don Siegelman should not go unnoticed.

WOW!! EXCELLENT!!!!!

which only means Obama would have won with 18 less electoral votes

Will miss you Karl Rove as much as I miss Lee Atwater. That means "not at all." The world is halfway to being a much better place.

how anyone lets that guy on tv anymore i dont get.

Could you please make a Karl Robe zombie?

Your writing is has always been on my 'must read' list.
Thanks!

Way to go P.A..

...Analyze This., where for just the slightest provocation they 'off' the protagonist...or whoever stole their money, or failed to deliver on a promise, whatever. So why not? I mean if ever there were individuals that could 'order' somebody to no longer be around, it's these damn lousy, greedy, billionaires. So, as I said, why not? And if Mr Rove should 'end up with the fishes'...so be it...the bastard deserves every bad thing that happens to him from here on out...and beyond.

But as long as he's alive, he's going to have a job doing something and I can't see any possible job that he can do that won't affect me in some nefarious way. I really feel that America can only be safe with Rove behind bars.

the ghost of Mike Connell haunts this turd for all eternity...

so well written. does it get published elsewhere? because i really hope it does.

I had these same thoughts late last night!! I've hated that he even had a minute's air time since 2008, I'm hoping this is the final nail on that stench-filled coffin.

n/t

That was fun watching him on the edge of tears last night though.

K and R

Is there any evidence republicans eschew incompetence or lying? As long as Rove tells billionaires what they want to hear, he will be considered a political genius.

and the other Fox creeps openly laughing at him.

It was a Golden Teevee Moment!

the other thing that put an end to rove was the simple ability of the Democratic Party and the Obama campaign team to full exploit the electronic online medium. rove is still living in the world where he thinkgs he can bully and connive his way to winning, but that kind of backroom tactics can no longer stand in an age where the speed and power of texting, tweeting, etc far out pace anything little rove could ever hope to conjure up from his boiling stew of black magic politics.

Thank you....

Never saw that episode of Colbert.

like Stewart's Michael Steele puppet.

another evil figure, Karen Ignagni, who lobbies Congress and bullies presidential administrations on behalf of AHIP, or America's Health Insurance Plans.
She represents the health insurance industry, the most obvious exponent of the medicine for profit as idea and practice.
When Bill Clinton was close to giving us national health insurance in 1992-3, Karen and her friends put together those Harry and Louise ads.
When Barack Obama gave her a say, she demanded the inclusion of the individual mandate.
And if she didn't get it, she'd discredit the government in the same way as before.
And her looks make her a perfect Disney witch as in Sleeping Beauty-- horned cap, snaky walk, slim figure and all!
She comes from the same part of the country as Tim McVeigh, but has much, much more blood on her hands.

where Rat Fuckers go when they die.

he's done.

or to Don Siegelman, or the US Attorneys who even though they were Republicans, refused to indict innocent Democrats on Rove's orders. Or that he has never been held accountable for all the crimes he committed against this country.

I was thrilled to see his complete Melt Down on Fox, and the irony that it was Fox who had to try to save him from embarrassment, his favorite tool for all these years.

But I still want to see him brought to justice. If for no other reason than to make a statement that this country will not tolerate his brand of 'politics' anymore.

bhn

Will have to check youtube to see his sorry-assed excuses. Schadenfreude.

He was responsible for 8 years of misery that I'll never get back. Creep.

OK - I feel better now.

That party produces them like a corpse makes maggots.

But guys like him don't go down without a fight. So better believe he will be tag-teaming with congressional Repubs the next 4 years.

What's mind boggling is that so many Repubs and Freepers claim that our side is full of Chicago-style mob tactics and members... many of them think the Dems stole the election. Where are they getting that? I know their Fox watchers and all, but damn... I didn't know that Fox was pumping such heinous ideas into their heads... That's what I get I guess for not watching the network.

I will say I am cautiously optimistic about Rove's declination. But, I won't be surprised if he rears his big head again in the future...

I've been enjoying your return to DU3.



Julie

He is like a bad case of Herpes, he always comes back😡

why that man is walking around loose. He should be rotting in prison for what he did to Valerie Plame. Well, maybe not rotting: I imagine his fellow inmates would keep old Turd Blossom pretty busy in the joint (Sooooo-eeeee!).

Even criminals have standards, they wouldn't touch that bastard! I agree though, he should be in jail.

You can't get rid of him. He'll be fine unfortunately. All his corrupt friends will stick by his side.

And last night, I felt like I got it for 2004. And the weird thing is, last night felt more sweet. I remember going through the hell that was 2004 here on DU, a relative newbie at the time, and I remember how all of us got so excited when the exit polls were released, only to see our hope turn to bewilderment, disbelief, and finally despair and rage as the day wore on. That was seriously one of the darkest nights of my life, because it really looked like our country was on a permanent road to a fascist theocracy.

Last night, I imagine quite a few righties got to know the pain many of us felt in 2004. It almost makes me pity them a little. And I stress the word ALMOST.

Great OP. And I agree, Karl Rove will probably rear his porkish head here and there from time to time in the future, but for the most part he's done. He will never be perceived as the golden whiz kid that knows every trick in the book. His tricks have been exposed, and firmly rejected by America. He's more of a hindrance to the GOP at this point, because he will always have the ball and chain known as Dubya shackled to his ankle.

Mad Props.

My fave line:

Because the number of bigoted white men willing to believe any bullshit as long as it makes them feel like they're king of the world is no longer a large enough percentage of the population to swing an election. Or even to swing Ohio.

And this day couldn't have come too soon ...

...it must be to be KKKarl today. And he deserves EVERY minute of it.

If he was an executive in a corporation, he'd be demoted to cleaning the latrine.

I'm thinking that maybe he thought the Ohio fix was in and couldn't believe it didn't work - maybe Husted's "patch" didn't work like it was supposed to.

Wish it were so but he will continue his evil manipulation as long as he can breath.

bump

I never watch Faux , but last night I wanted to check out the exploding heads. Lo and behold, there he was in all his glory, sticking to his guns. Then one of the blondes took a long studio stroll, I guess to commandeer one of their numbers guys. IIRC, after a commercial break there was the numbers guy on camera, trying unsuccessfully to convince KKKKarl that he was wrong. It was a hoot, and makes me want to visit Faux again, once in a while.

I wancouples more things. Orange jumpsuits for him and Bush and Cheney. I would like Romney to join them, for his tax evasion in 2009.

Yeah, that should do it.

I was surprised at how incompetent he looked on fox news and Very surprised that they dared show his incompetence to the public.
His reasoning was very different then any other info coming from ALL the networks.
I thought they showed him as incompetent and almost pathetic.

But when you have taken all that money from wealthy donors and your guys loses, well either you are GONE from public view or you cheat to win next time around.
And we all know what Karl Rove is willing to do.

Why is this guy even relevant? He was Bush's "mastermind adviser" for eight years. And how did that go for his boss who is still hiding four years later?

Don't EVER count this fuckhead out!! He always seems to pop up during election season. He may have less clout now with the millionaires and billionaires, but, there's still enough HATRED out there from these Right-Wing Dings that Karl can get support for you know "Let's get the Black man out of the WHITE HOUSE" groups and their bucks. So, PLEASE let's not overlook this bastard!! He has a way of hanging around like stink on shit!!

Well done.

rove created a myth call bush that was rejected in florida but he had to call in favors from the supremes to install bush. he lost ohio and had to have the machines to make sure bush won.

axlerod took a unknown afro-american politician from chicago and helped him become the first afro american president. alxelrod and his crew made history in this election too.

karl was a myth that to many people believed

Make it go viral!!!

Plaid Adder, well said.