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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMSNBC: Jay-Z will no longer use "The B Word" following birth of his daughter. How fucking SPECIAL.
I'm sorry, I don't see Jay-Z and Beyonce as American royalty, and lots and lots and lost of people have kids every day, so for me, this isn't an "event."
As one of the people on MSNBC just said, yeah...he USED the word and made a fucking FORTUNE using the word and encouraged OTHERS to use the word, and it's "hard to believe that he didn't have some other female figure in his life prior to the birth of his daughter" to DISCOURAGE him from using THE WORD.
Fuck him. Thanks for not using the word, but fuck him.
niyad
(113,490 posts)Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)...is treated like royalty by the media.
niyad
(113,490 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Or something like that.
marmar
(77,084 posts)that was Ray J, and he's a singer.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)JI7
(89,259 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)theaocp
(4,243 posts)a baby ain't one? The man's a fraud and a 1%er. Forget about him.
NOLALady
(4,003 posts)it's "hard to believe that he didn't have some other female figure in his life prior to the birth of his daughter" to DISCOURAGE him from using THE WORD.
Such as his Mother? His wife? Sister?
Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)He and his wife had a baby. Great. Congratulations. THAT event made him realize that disrespecting women was a BAD idea?
October
(3,363 posts)So insulting. And so ignorant.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)You are agreeing with, supporting, and augmenting the original post, right? Because the word "Please!" as you have it written, made me wonder. Excellent examples of JayZ's hypocrisy.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)OhioChick
(23,218 posts)Jay-Z Selling Occupy Wall Street T-Shirts; No Plans to Share Profits With Protestors
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jay-z-occupy-wall-street-shirt-rocawear-260334
He eventually pulled the shirts due to "criticism."
Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)...I did post a thread on it at the time it happened.
This pig is no better than P Diddy and his ilk, just all about the money and severely lacking in talent. He knows his "base," he plays to it, and laughs all the way to the bank. Now he and his wife have a baby and a fortune and he's trying to position himself as some kind of hero for retiring "The B Word" from his act.
FUCK him.
OhioChick
(23,218 posts)Didn't he and his wife shut down the maternity floor in the hospital due the birth of their kid? (Heard something on the local news)
Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)...he DID pay for an "executive suite," an option offered by that specific hospital...according to TMZ:
1/9/2012 1:27 PM PST BY TMZ STAFF
http://www.tmz.com/2012/01/09/beyonce-lennox-hill-hospital-money-payment/
Beyonce and Jay-Z did NOT pay $1.3 million so the Destiny's Child singer could give birth to Blue Ivy in a sealed off private floor ... this according to the hospital. A rep for Lenox Hill Hospital just released a statement, claiming, "The suggestion that the couple paid $1.3 million to rent an entire maternity floor is simply not true."
The rep adds, "The family is housed in an executive suite at the hospital and is being billed the standard rate for those accommodations."
According to the rep, "The family does have its own security detail on site. However, the hospital has been and continues to be in control of managing all security at the facility. We have made every effort to ensure minimal disruption to other families experiencing the births of their own children over the past three days."
TMZ broke the story ... moms at Lenox Hill are considering filing a lawsuit against the hospital, claiming they were treated like 2nd class citizens when Beyonce rolled in this weekend.
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)MLK, my hero, fought and made inroads against racism. Now the greedy and controlling rich need to be marginalized. We need a Rosa Parks moment where someone refuses to do what a rich prick's security detail says when it involves a situation where we all have the freedom and right to so. There is class warfare and the damn rich started it!
dana_b
(11,546 posts)to hell with him, indeed.
mazzarro
(3,450 posts)So he will stop using the word to avoid tarring his daughter - hmmmm!
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)His mother, mother-in-law, grandmothers, aunts, and any sisters, nieces, female in-laws, and female cousins he may have, too. What a schmuck.
Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)daughter, sisters, mothers, cousins and aunts b*tches but now that he has his daughter.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)I am unimpressed.
trumad
(41,692 posts)Your daughters a Bitch..
Hey--- It was OK to call my daughter one a couple weeks back...
Broderick
(4,578 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)obamanut2012
(26,087 posts)And a role model to alot of young people.
He should have done this before, but better late than never. Good for him.
lildreamer316
(14,803 posts)rustydog
(9,186 posts)NOW he must "think of the children"
BumRushDaShow
(129,228 posts)obamanut2012
(26,087 posts)tkmorris
(11,138 posts)IMO he's one of the least "grown-up" humans on the planet. I don't plan to applaud until he at least hits a point on the bell curve I don't need a magnifying glass to find.
Number23
(24,544 posts)WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)Iggo
(47,561 posts)onenote
(42,724 posts)which was pretty tacky. But he didn't (and legally couldn't) "copyright" OWS. And after folks got in his face about profiting off of OWS, he gave it up and stopped selling the shirts.
I didn't have a problem with him selling the shirts, but he should have been giving most if not all of the profits back to OWS.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)redqueen
(115,103 posts)Hopefully, the backlash against this kind of insidious sexism has begun.
As for this story, I guess it's nice that he did finally get it after having a daughter. It's sad that the other women in his life weren't important enough, but many men don't even get it after having a daughter. (It'd also be nice if his wife would wake up from her "who runs the world? girls." delusions and actually start paying attention to the world as it exists.)
CanSocDem
(3,286 posts)Best post of the thread.
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redqueen
(115,103 posts)I think it's a very important message, and I'm so hopeful that it catches on.
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)msongs
(67,430 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)Charlemagne
(576 posts)MilesColtrane
(18,678 posts)"Bitch" helped you buy her that solid gold rocking horse and diamond encrusted high chair.
http://www.inquisitr.com/179025/jay-z-and-beyonce-spoil-blue-ivy-with-1-5-million-worth-of-gifts/
Golly Sean, so much for "keeping it real"...
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Some people may entertain emotional/spiritual growth as a result of a catalyst in their lives.
(as a caveat, I have no idea who he is, but infer from your OP that he's a pop/rap entertainer.)
Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)...read Ohio Chick's post above. This happened around a MONTH or so ago.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=175366
Maybe the daughter is a catalyst. Or maybe he's a prick whose wife just gave birth. I'm gonna go with "prick."
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"I'm gonna go with 'p---k'..."
I imagine we'll go with whatever choice better validates our own presumptions...
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)I applaud any positive change in social discourse. Maybe it will become a trend.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)xmas74
(29,674 posts)Sure, I'd prefer that he had never used the word or that he had quit using it many years ago. It seems to have taken him until now, the birth of his daughter, to realize that the word is just plain wrong. It's a good thing, even if it's a bit late.
I'd like to hope that it will influence others to quit using it. I'm not holding my breath but I am hoping.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)xmas74
(29,674 posts)Either way, there's far too little of it out there. Maybe it's heartfelt from becoming a first time father (a role that he quite obviously is ecstatic about), maybe it's the publicity, maybe it's all a marketing ploy. Who knows?
If he sticks by what he's said maybe he'll be an example for others that you don't need to call women names in order to be successful in rap. If he is able to do that I'm a happy camper.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)Initech
(100,090 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)as "bitches" and "hos".
Better late than never.
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)he is faced with a live show and having nothing in his repertoire that he can perform.
Fuck him indeed.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)for marrying this misogynist prick!!
Fearless
(18,421 posts)I don't see why people decry a good thing. I would never claim he's a model of civility and soft-spokenness, yet improvement should not be shunned.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)Better late than never I guess, but still.
It's too bad he doesn't have enough respect for any other females in his life to have seen the light earlier.
RZM
(8,556 posts)I assume that when he performs his older songs, he won't change the lyrics. Seems like a big to do about nothing since the man is pretty old for a rapper. I'm guessing he doesn't have very many albums left in him and thus won't have to sacrifice much to not use the word in future songs.
He was interviewed in 2010 by Terri Gross and she asked 'the bitch and ho question,' as she put it. His answer was really pretty weak and made little sense.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)I understand parents want to be original and creative, but
did they ever consider that "Blue" sounds just like "blew"...?
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)to not want to subject his own to himself. Where was he when he was subjecting all of us to his towering intellect?
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Combine the events at Lenox Hill Hospital and you have a terrible person.
d_b
(7,463 posts)Neue Regel
(221 posts)Who the hell thought THAT was a good idea?
Neue Regel
(221 posts)Just a thought
spooky3
(34,462 posts)They are notorious for lack of empathy. They never "get" how their actions hurt others until someone they love, or they themselves, are harmed by the same thing.
He's got a long way to go. Words are only one small part of the picture.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)called "black republican."
spooky3
(34,462 posts)alp227
(32,044 posts)and that song doesn't really reflect Jay Z's political views rather just tells a story
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Maybe he could take up, say, music...
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)Brilliant! LOL
noamnety
(20,234 posts)up to the level of Jay-Z's feminist standards ...
I dunno, is that setting the bar too high?
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Really can't stand either of them.
All the best with your child, but I hope to never have to hear about her again.