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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsExpect a big Republican push to abolish the Electoral College.
It's very difficult to imagine a Republican winning Ohio, Pennsylvania or Michigan. And it's almost impossible for a Republican to win the Electoral College without any of these states. In a popular vote election, however, millions of religious Southerners would dutifully go to the polls and pad the Republican popular vote total.
msrizzo
(796 posts)Then more people would vote in blue states too. I live in Baltimore and I know quite a few people (won't name names) who are really sporadic voters because they claim their vote doesn't matter. They're a little lazy but they are solid Democrats and I know they would vote every time if they thought their vote mattered.
librechik
(30,676 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)With a bunch of Tom Delays and Rick Perrys presiding over the choice of voting machines, the election, and the count? And with comparitively few Dems to keep them in check?
librechik
(30,676 posts)will or must be put in place. Trust, yes, but verify!
Elections everywhere should not be run by party officials but by non-partisan groups. We will have to work hard to codify a national standard that will work for everyone, but we will or we will die away like some 3rd world country unable to keep up with modern times.
sibelian
(7,804 posts)I say let them.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)now that Obama has won the popular vote.
IllinoisBirdWatcher
(2,315 posts)Their fall-back fantasy position was to contest the electoral college totals because they KNEW they would win the popular vote.
In other words, by their thinking they lost TWICE yesterday.
Let them whine.
RagAss
(13,832 posts)Bring it on !
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)to distribute early voting ballots in church.
RagAss
(13,832 posts)Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)We can lay down some rules for all the states to follow regarding voting.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)They have a better chance at winning Electoral College than they do of ever winning the popular vote.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Romney had a huge built-in disadvantage in the Electoral College. Obama had many, many more plausible paths to 270 electoral votes.
former9thward
(32,068 posts)But keep the electoral college. I think that would be a fair compromise.
gordianot
(15,242 posts)Of course this was secondary consideration I have not missed a major election in 42 years. If nothing else voting gives you complaining privileges.
EC
(12,287 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)As I said above, pastors would be handing out early voting ballots like candy.
EC
(12,287 posts)calico1
(8,391 posts)If the electoral college is abolished they will never win another presidential election, since the Blue states are more heavily populated and a lot of the Red States didn't win by all that much.
I say, go for it!
RC
(25,592 posts)Any election involving any Federal office, needs to be under Federal rules and laws, not state.
What we have now plays right into the Republicans hands. We only did as good as we did because so many people voted, we swamped out the Republican's pre-weighted results. Our election now are no more fare than in any banana republic.
People involved in Election fraud, need to be going to prison.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)and less miserable electronic voting machines
distantearlywarning
(4,475 posts)So many people in big blue Northeastern states don't bother to vote because they know the state is "safe". That wouldn't happen anymore if the electoral college was abolished. Also, some of the central low-population states have electoral votes that are out of proportion to the number of registered voters who live there. And those states are typically very strongly red. So...we get extra voters in New York, and you guys get....all the votes from Montana and Wyoming. Good luck with that.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)you'd think they'd learned their lesson from the 22nd Amendment!
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)I'd finally have a Republican cause to support.
2000, hello?
A bunch of low-density states that vote Republican and get electoral votes out of any proportion to their low populations.
1 vote in Wyoming presidential election = about 5 votes in Florida.
Of the many ways in which the 55 dead men of 1787 sought to stymie the existing American democracy that their constitution was designed to roll back, this one never worked according to intent. They thought the electors would deliberate and change results if they judged it wise, which has never happened. Electors have always voted with their original candidates, and the exceptions are literally a handful. The only effect of the EC has been to create the mathematical possibility that a losing candidate can still get a majority of EVs by winning the right combination of states. A vestigial and blind effect, but it has nevertheless changed history four times. If the EC had functioned to prevent tyrannies, 2000 would have gone the other way, no?
Let the people vote, I say. It would be much better to change the fact that one single elected super-leader and/or his entourage are so influential atop a super-executive branch that no one had imagined would ever be this big and important, but a straight popular election would be a start.