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Ex Lurker

(3,816 posts)
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 10:49 PM Jan 2023

Damar Hamlin's Collapse Highlights the Violence Black Men Experience in Football

As a cultural anthropologist, I’ve spent the last decade learning how Black college football players navigate the exploitation, racism, and anti-Blackness that are fundamental to its current system. I know it’s not new to highlight the inherent violence of American football. This sport requires exceptional athletes, who are otherwise ordinary men, to perform extraordinary feats on the field. We liken these men to gladiators and warriors. The leagues, organizations, teams, coaches, spectators, and fans who benefit from their performance expect them to tough it out when they get hurt and applaud them when they play through these injuries.

Football is a spectacle where excessive violence is mundane, because hits that cause injuries are a constant occurrence, and spectators are desensitized to it. Consumers of the sport assume players will withstand any bodily affront, so they are shocked when a player’s physical limits are exceeded, often on very public stages. People with a vested interest in professional football rationalize excessive violence in this structured space, as well as the ones that encompass college, high school and peewee play, all because they assume that rules, equipment, and regulations exist to prevent death. But this is false protection. While this form of entertainment has been normalized, Hamlin’s injury demonstrates that ordinary violence has potentially deadly consequences, and highlights how Black men’s athletic labor sustains this brutal system.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/damar-hamlins-collapse-highlights-the-violence-black-men-experience-in-football/

Keep this in mind while you're cheering his recovery.
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Damar Hamlin's Collapse Highlights the Violence Black Men Experience in Football (Original Post) Ex Lurker Jan 2023 OP
no one is making anyone play football Skittles Jan 2023 #1
Plus he initiated the "violence" by tackling the other. Igel Jan 2023 #3
If one wants to have this conversation about football in general, go for it. But Hamlin's case RockRaven Jan 2023 #2
Good points. StarryNite Jan 2023 #4
Just my 2 cents. SlimJimmy Jan 2023 #8
The only NFL player to die on the field was white. former9thward Jan 2023 #5
I Was Watching That Game ProfessorGAC Jan 2023 #9
The headline of the OP seems to be an attempt to make a point... brush Jan 2023 #6
The game is not nearly as violent as it used to be DenaliDemocrat Jan 2023 #7

Skittles

(153,254 posts)
1. no one is making anyone play football
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 11:00 PM
Jan 2023

I agree the violence is sickening but they do it for the big bucks.

Igel

(35,383 posts)
3. Plus he initiated the "violence" by tackling the other.
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 11:50 PM
Jan 2023

It was a highly unlikely occurrence, exactly the right place on the black body, exactly the right force because the black body hit a hard object, at exactly the precise time in the cardiac cycle.

This kind of weird occurrence can happen to any footballer tacking another. Or lax player who gets hit in the chest with a ball or from being checked, or boxer, or b-baller randomly pushed or baseballer hit by a ball or tagged in a weird way. It's a property not of black bodies but human bodies. It's more likely to happen to a black body because the NFL is 57.5% black according to the Sauron-Internet and I suspect that they're less likely to be kickers and QBs, non-tackling sorts of players.

RockRaven

(15,051 posts)
2. If one wants to have this conversation about football in general, go for it. But Hamlin's case
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 11:43 PM
Jan 2023

doesn't illustrate it in the way being suggested -- because the specifics of the cause of his cardiac arrest, if the cause is even known to his treating physicians, are not public knowledge at this time.

There is a lot of talk about commotio cordis in the media, but none of his treating physicians have publicly attributed his cardiac arrest to that (unless I missed it) and that is a diagnosis of exclusion -- meaning he needs to be worked up for other possible causes of cardiac arrest and not just jump to "the tackle he performed caused it", i.e. post hoc ergo proper hoc. The public doesn't know why he had a cardiac arrest, and his doctors may not either yet.

By all means, let's talk about how professional sports commodifies bodies and generates life-long debilitating injuries, and in regards to the NFL especially exploits people of color in this manner. But let's not undercut that conversation by focusing on topical but erroneous anecdotes in the lede.

StarryNite

(9,464 posts)
4. Good points.
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 11:51 PM
Jan 2023

Too many armchair doctors making a diagnosis. We need to wait and see what his doctors say.

SlimJimmy

(3,183 posts)
8. Just my 2 cents.
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 04:54 AM
Jan 2023

For anyone that has hunted deer with a shotgun using slugs, we understand the concept of shocking the heart. In my mind, this is exactly the same type of thing that happened to Hamlin. Add to it, the timing and location of the hit, and the beat of the heart, then it's easy to understand why he had a cardiac arrest.

former9thward

(32,111 posts)
5. The only NFL player to die on the field was white.
Sun Jan 8, 2023, 11:57 PM
Jan 2023

Charles Hughes.

Most injuries in professional football come not from being hit by someone else but from the effects of a huge body on the skeletal and muscular frame. When you play football there is no end of twisting and sudden turning and stops. When someone who weighs 350 pounds is doing that it imposes enormous stress on various joints of the body. That is where almost all the injures come from.

I wonder if the author has ever seen a football game.

ProfessorGAC

(65,319 posts)
9. I Was Watching That Game
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 08:46 AM
Jan 2023

His death had almost nothing to do with football. He was almost untouched on the play during which he died. He was a decoy.
A DB put a hand on him as he cut, but it was less than a push. Butkus was 20 feet away when Hughes just collapsed. Butkus was the one who knew something big was wrong & began frantically waving in help from the benches.
I have the same question about the author.

brush

(53,949 posts)
6. The headline of the OP seems to be an attempt to make a point...
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 03:06 AM
Jan 2023

that's not there. White players get hurt too, as do AAPI, Latino American and any other ethnisity too who play the game.

The thing is, it's a kids' game, it's fun to play when you're a kid then as the better players play in organized football as they progress in school, the possibility of playing it professionally for big money becomes a real thing...for all the players, not just the Black ones. And injuries are a part of it. That's undeniable.

There is racism in football, in the opportunities in the coaching, ownership/management ranks but not who gets injured.

There was a time when Black players weren't given oppotunities to play quarterback but that's gone by the wayside because Warren Moon, who had to play in Canada to get the opportunity, and others, excelled at the position and now nearly had the starting QBs are Black.

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