Sid

For years. His opinion is just that. His classless headline is what i expect from him.

Not an uber-liberal, definitely, but equally definitely not a neocon.

Calling Obama's critics dumb is a sure fire way to unite them. Claim they are in denial or just ignoring the obvious, but to call them dumb is antagonistic and only serves to deny the American public a clear debate of the issues we are dealing with.

It's also a cheap and easy way to make a bland, "both sides are wrong" argument to sell magazines. Fence-sitting of the worst variety: to ensure your safe, Beltway arguments can never be fully wrong.

Sullivan's point is that both conservatives and liberals are just "dumb" and don't get it, unlike the sophisticated Sullivan, who understands Obama's "centrism" and "pragmatism."

This is the same bullshit that Beltway assholes have been peddling since the rise of cable news.

Walking the middle path between straw man arguments. It's easy to pretend you're "in the middle" like this. It's easy, cheap, and a good way to sell magazines so you don't piss anyone off.

That's sure to attract lots of undecideds.

Go team. Rah Rah.

self deluded, he went on to say they were stuck in the 60's and that he personally trusted Cheney and Rummy, for they already won a war in the region!
If he were to write a piece saying I am the greatest person on earth, I'd point out how amazingly, stunningly incorrect he so often is.
After he stopped cheering for the war and W and Cheney, he claimed regret for the harm he did to this nation with his writing. The next day, he took up another wild position, and claimed yet again to carry wisdom.
So, citing Sully one day will get you hung the next. This is the guy who attacked those of us who opposed the Iraq war, he slandered the protesters, he did not simply disagree, he characterized them, held them up for ridicule. And they were right, he was wrong. One might think Sully could learn to simply state his opinion without jumping into the characterizations and name calling, considering the fact that he used those tactics against the protesters of the Iraq War, who were right, while Sully admittedly harmed America with his tactics and opinions....
So unless you were all for the Iraq War, and thought the protesters of that war were traitorous idiots, you should think long and hard prior to holding Sully up as some example.

Stopped clock and whatever else, right? I mean, it works for Paul.

This thread is a perfect example of just how confused and dysfunctionally divided traditional politics is. An interview I saw yesterday with Andrew Sullivan showed how he feels both sides get it wrong. And there's no way such would unite any divided political front. Sullivan's point, whether some would consider him a Neo-Nut or not, was that Obama is scarcely appreciated by either camp for what he has done in the face of the worst financial meltdown since the Great Depression. The central fact remains. No matter who was elected, what this country faced after the unregulated free market shenanigans that caused the crash of '08' would have left any president looking like a hapless dinglebutt because there was no way any substantial recovery was possible in just a few short years after such a severe meltdown that involved the particular conservative houses of finance that were the root cause. Clue: In practice, there isn't really any such thing as an American or, "The American People" in politics or otherwise. There are only Republicrats, Democans or In-Depends. And anything else that represents balance and unity is distastefully rendered as that of a wishy-washy and uncommited weakling.

So exactly what part or perspective regarding liberty and justice for all need be up for a vote as to specifically what that ought mean for We The People in daily practice???-???-???

No wonder politics-as-usual is about to fall on it's face and swiftly become outdated and useless to derive it's intent. The whole idea of all Americans being more or less forced to have no other alternative but to chose by divided vote between two or maybe three individuals (so that barely more than roughly half the populace, which is only technically a matematical majority) to perform the office of Puppet President and Commander In Brief is utter pointless nonsense when one seriously considers the deeper underlying facts. No wonder so many are confused about the function of a, "Government" of, by and for 'Itself' (the hands of a few). And thus why Government and capitalism is synonymous in practice.