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President Obama's Gallup approval rating amongst liberal Democrats from January 9th-15th is 86%. (Original Post) LoZoccolo Jan 2012 OP
It just keeps going up. lamp_shade Jan 2012 #1
I'm liking the trend. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #2
the re-nominate % was even more startling. 91% liberal Dems. 76% moderates. nt dmallind Jan 2012 #3
I'm surprised, I'd thought just the reverse. demosincebirth Jan 2012 #4
You'd think so around here sure - but Obama nationally dmallind Jan 2012 #9
It makes perfect sense Mojorabbit Jan 2012 #11
So why are Dems less likely to do the same the less liberal they are? dmallind Jan 2012 #12
It's a perception issue.... vi5 Jan 2012 #14
Yeah gratuitous Jan 2012 #13
Ah, yes, another attempt to define away the liberals who approve of Obama. TheWraith Jan 2012 #19
Sorry I failed your purity test gratuitous Jan 2012 #20
The only way to define someone in a poll is for them to self-identify. joshcryer Jan 2012 #23
Sounds like the old communist vote totals Vinnie From Indy Jan 2012 #5
He's kicking ass. Check out this Wired article. napoleon_in_rags Jan 2012 #6
If this poll is believed to be true, why are some trashing "purists" with such vigor? AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #7
Because these liberals are largely not delivering a strict ultimatum like a purist would. LoZoccolo Jan 2012 #8
Exactly... vi5 Jan 2012 #10
But people who want to divide others need to create an enemy in the ranks. ClassWarrior Jan 2012 #15
There used to be many people who said that the base was leaving. LoZoccolo Jan 2012 #17
Many? ClassWarrior Jan 2012 #22
If you didn't see any, I guess there weren't that many. LoZoccolo Jan 2012 #24
Perhaps the distinction is between the "activists" and the rank-n-file. This site is littered with Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #26
The poll numbers are nonsense. The word "purists" was originated by others, the critics by those AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #27
Last time I checked 86% was a whopping majority. Self appointed "activists" need to understand that Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #28
Then you have nothing to worry about. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #30
! Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #31
Self-appointed activists? What does that make you? ClassWarrior Jan 2012 #32
I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that you know a lot more about Koch than I do. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #33
I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that I know a lot more than you do... ClassWarrior Jan 2012 #34
Agreed. But not for the reason you think. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #36
So it has nothing to do with vague, incoherent posts like that? ClassWarrior Jan 2012 #37
The hell you say. Well, color me surprised! That's a good sign. Now, on to the moderates and Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #16
No moral compass kick. Scurrilous Jan 2012 #18
Ha!! Number23 Jan 2012 #21
K & R Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #25
NO IT'S NOT!!! uponit7771 Jan 2012 #29
Fuck Ron Paul TransitJohn Jan 2012 #35

dmallind

(10,437 posts)
9. You'd think so around here sure - but Obama nationally
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 03:44 PM
Jan 2012

is far more popular among liberal Democrats than moderate or conservative ones, consistently. I can't really say I understand why (meaning why he suffers among moderate and conservative Dems that is) but that's where he's the weakest and always has been. Good old boy racism possibly.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
11. It makes perfect sense
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 04:30 PM
Jan 2012

I abhor a lot of his decisions but looking at what there is to choose from I would also answer a poll with a positive. Apples and Oranges.

dmallind

(10,437 posts)
12. So why are Dems less likely to do the same the less liberal they are?
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 05:01 PM
Jan 2012

It's not the number that surprises me - it's the direction.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
14. It's a perception issue....
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 05:10 PM
Jan 2012

I think honestly that the more "centrist" or "moderate" (quotes mine on both since they are usually neither) a democrat is, the less informed they are. They tend to be people like my parents who are in their 60's and reflexively Democrats. They don't dislike or hate Obama but they are also not political junkies and low information voters. So they get most of their information from whatever cable news shows they happen to flip on and unfortunately stuff like e-mail forwards and facebook posts from more conservative friends. So I can see them thinking if not outwardly, at least a little bit that he might be "too liberal" or more in favor of socialism or whatever.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
13. Yeah
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 05:08 PM
Jan 2012

It does render the concept of "approval" rather . . . elastic, no? What makes a "liberal" Democrat? Would Rahm Emanuel qualify as such for the purposes of this poll? And what does it mean to "approve" of Obama? I "approve" of Obama as against other choices (not named)? Or I affirmatively "approve" of the administration and every decision, policy and pronouncement that have come out of it? Or I guess I "approve" of more things than I "disapprove", so overall I'm in the "approve" category? Or I "approve" a plurality of things the administration has done (but not a majority)? Or I have one and only one issue that matters to me, and since the Obama administration hasn't totally destroyed that issue, I "approve" of the administration?

The rubber band poll, it can stretch to whatever you want it to mean. And I have my own suspicions on what a lot of folks would like it to mean for any number of those nagging, rat bastard, Jiminy Cricket voices that just don't know when to stop.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
19. Ah, yes, another attempt to define away the liberals who approve of Obama.
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 06:32 PM
Jan 2012

They're not REALLY liberals! How do they define "liberal" anyway! Nobody administered them a purity test! What does "approve" really mean anyway!

All attempts to ignore the fact that the people who gripe at and bash Obama endlessly are actually the micro-minority and not at all representative of liberals as a whole.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
20. Sorry I failed your purity test
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 07:12 PM
Jan 2012

I guess asking questions is just too much to countenance. I notice you carefully avoided proffering any answers to who the poll decides is a liberal and what it means by approve. So much easier just to name-call and marginalize than preoccupy your beautiful mind with inconvenient thoughts.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
23. The only way to define someone in a poll is for them to self-identify.
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 11:28 PM
Jan 2012

You can't have a poll where you 1) do a political compass test that takes several hours and 2) answer the poll question.

In statistics this isn't a big deal, because you can do that political compass test, figure out where ones political roots are, and then statistically it will match up with those who "self identify" as however, if the sample size is large enough.

napoleon_in_rags

(3,991 posts)
6. He's kicking ass. Check out this Wired article.
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 03:34 PM
Jan 2012
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/01/white-house-blasts-internet-blacklisting-bills/

“Proposed laws must not tamper with the technical architecture of the Internet through manipulation of the Domain Name System (DNS), a foundation of Internet security,” the administration said in a statement. “Our analysis of the DNS filtering provisions in some proposed legislation suggests that they pose a real risk to cybersecurity and yet leave contraband goods and services accessible online. We must avoid legislation that drives users to dangerous, unreliable DNS servers and puts next-generation security policies, such as the deployment of DNSSEC, at risk.”


This shows the President is 100% on top of, and aware of the game. The SOPA legislation would drive people into using unofficial black market DNS servers, which could be used to execute man in the middle attacks on other sites. (for instance, DU would resolve to a different server than DU is actually on, which acts as a proxy to the main site which sniffs passwords, and alters content in transit. But you'd never see it, all you'd know is that DNS lets you access pirate bay)

There are way, way better ways to provide content protection than redirecting kids who like free mp3s onto shadowy spying DNS servers.
 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
7. If this poll is believed to be true, why are some trashing "purists" with such vigor?
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 03:35 PM
Jan 2012

Isn't it time for someone to post a link to "the list" again?

Isn't it time for someone to tell us that he got the mandatory-purchase-of-health-care-insurance for all of us? A Republican dream of Sen. Grassley (R-Iowa).

Or isn't it time to remind us all again that he's not Gingrich, not Rmoney, or not-whoever-the-Republican-front-runner-is-this-week?

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
10. Exactly...
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 04:01 PM
Jan 2012

If these polls are accurate, then the people dissatisfied with him represent such a small number that they couldn't possibly have any impact on anything.

Yet to hear people talk, anyone with any complaint at all is pretty much single handedly setting the cause of liberalism back 100 years. Unlike...you know, the guy who actually has power and is adopting and endorsing Republican plans and policies from the 80's and 90's on everything from healthcare, to education, to economics.

But no, the bigger problem and the bigger threat to democracy is clearly anonymous commentators on the internet expressing any dissatisfaction with dear leader.

ClassWarrior

(26,316 posts)
15. But people who want to divide others need to create an enemy in the ranks.
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 05:12 PM
Jan 2012

It's masterful, really.

NGU.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
26. Perhaps the distinction is between the "activists" and the rank-n-file. This site is littered with
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:32 AM
Jan 2012

"purists" (as you call them) and/or activists declaring that they speak for "progressives", and I think these poll numbers put that assertion to bed. The smugness, with which you addressed the o.p., is case in point.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
27. The poll numbers are nonsense. The word "purists" was originated by others, the critics by those
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 03:09 AM
Jan 2012

who want less democracy. They want less web-site participation by others who value traditional Democratic principles.

Such critics want ranks and files. They want lock-step thinking. If that's what you want, you're going to be disappointed.

ClassWarrior

(26,316 posts)
34. I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that I know a lot more than you do...
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 02:14 AM
Jan 2012

...about pretty much everything.



NGU.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
16. The hell you say. Well, color me surprised! That's a good sign. Now, on to the moderates and
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 05:22 PM
Jan 2012

independents.

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