with all the trimmings of course.

And I hate to say it but I called my wingnut sis and asked to talk to her husband about the military oath and found out he has gone around the bend as well. It was a bummer.

But I haven't eaten with them in years. Just can't handle it.

You guys and puppy settle down and you can watch some of the great Obama videos in the BOG and V & MM and celebrate America moving forward!

when my husband and I weren't up for the giant family extravaganza.

turkey breasts. just a thought. I cannot NOT go to Thanksgiving. We usually try to avoid the tricky subjects. My brother shouldn't be coming until later which will make it easier.... he actually pays to watch glen beck. he bought a roku JUST so he could watch glen beck. We've had our issues.... but generally we all try to avoid the discussion altogether.

and i love them dearly. i want to spend thanksgiving with them.

Decided majority!

I don't subject myself to the others. Thanksgiving is our favorite holiday so it will be a fun family time as usual.

I chose to spend it with my liberal family and our token conservative. I feel bad for people who need to spend it with Bullshit Mountain News viewers.

Parents house. They are Repukes, and so is my brother and my sister in law. I can't wait to go. I haven't talked to my brother since before the election. He assured me they were going to win Ala Faux News. All I'm gonna do is laugh and smile like the cat that ate the canary. His kids right now are going through some real bad medical issues, and he complains about the bills. But yet he was willing to risk their well being on pre-existing conditions with Rmoney.

Anyway, there are going to be people there who I see only a few times a year. I am looking forward to it.

to each other about so many things. No point in letting our differences in politics drive us apart.

We're still trying to get over a big blow up from the last election that happened at our Christmas celebration in 08. We just don't talk politics anymore. Hoping anyway!

Can't you just agree to not discuss politics and enjoy each other's company?

I find this all ludicrous.

Their whole world is destroyed, they think.

Then snicker like hell behind your hand....

Some families love arguing about politics; it works for them. If all it does for your family is create hard feelings, then ban the political talk.

she loves to bait the conversation and believes she's so knowledgeable. Its terrifically painful.

I wish it were ludicrous but clearly some families just can't/won't leave it alone no matter how much we might beg....

And you discover they voted to destroy and did destroy your marriage rights, it's practically impossible.

Looks like it's gonna be me and hubby on Turkey Day as well.

At least my daughter is a good fourth-generation Democrat (on my side)!!

my family is openly racist(many members) and I shut them out completely...facebook and in real life

Its more than a difference of opinion.

These assfucks believe in profiting off of people. They are homophobic. and racist


Sociopaths.

It's not just about turning aside and ignoring stupidity - there is actual racism and hate spewed. When our son was about 4 or 5 years old, we had to get up and leave his grandparents' house due to the "n word" being used. When our son, who is now in his 20's, stated on Facebook that he supported gay rights, marriage equality, his own aunt called him stupid!!

And all of this hate and stupidity comes from "evangelical, right-wing Christians" who were supporting Romney!!! Their own churches used to have hate-fests about the Mormons, but once it was a choice between a black guy and a white Mormon, guess who they chose??

I know how to separate family life from politics.

There will be over 20 people at our Thanksgiving this year and I'm POSITIVE at least 5 of them voted straight republican ballots. I am also positive that the issue of politics will not come up at all.

We'll drink, watch football, eat, watch football, drink some more, play pool, and drink some more. A good time will be had by all.

I pity those with friends and family whose politics cause them to feel fear and dismay before each and every holiday get-together, and thank my lucky stars I'm not like them.

not us.

Plus, we don't celebrate holidays commemorating religious extremism.

Our local Japanese restaurant will be open on the day - sushi, teppanyaki and seaweed salad!

turkey, yams, potatoes, cranberries--all Native American foods. I celebrate them. Except I don't like turkey so we grill salmon instead, and do wild rice with nuts and dried fruit instead of stuffing.

It's nice to have the change sometimes. And I've already bought 8 pounds of cranberries and frozen them for cranberry muffins and compote for the rest of the winter. I adore autumnal New World foods - winter squash is food of the gods, and wild rice and nuts. Add in apples and Beaujolais and I'm in heaven.

I love sweet potatoes - I alternate between a baked potato and a baked sweet potato almost every day for lunch.

(the no religious extremist holidays is something of a household joke - my parents announced their divorce at Thanksgiving, DH's parents announced theirs at Christmas, we both had other family traumas at Easter, and we both have the sort of families that stress out over holidays and end up having a cold, tense sit down, so these holidays don't have many cheerful associations for us. Since we're nontheists, with Mormons, Catholics and Baptists in the near family tree, making the blanket rule makes it much easier to be firm with our Family First Fundies. Also, the long distance cuts the demands.)

We all live in the same town, so getting together isn't a huge deal to begin with, and literally every adult involved is on a different medical diet, so having a meal together involves more coordination and planning than the Normandy invasion. Totally not worth the trouble.

nothing better. I have a recipe for pheasant in a mushroom white sauce
to die for. And good for you for choosing a peaceful day.

I would just sit there with a huge smile on my face saying nothing, while they spew. I'm sure you just sitting there grinning would piss them off even more as they sputter away talking points trying to get you to bite. Then, after a few hours, just sit back and say "The people have spoken....get over it."

Hope their exploding heads don't land in the cranberry sauce....

Hi,
I'm not going to do Thanksgiving this year. (Husband's name) and I now owe a chunk of money in taxes that didn't exist before and we didn't plan for. Prop 30 passed and it puts a tax on us retroactively to the beginning of 2012. It's money we have already spent and now they tell us we owe it retroactively. Are taxes overall, with all upcoming taxes combined, take us to 64% of what we make, we pay. I have to let (cleaning lady's name) go. And I am not feeling thankful.

Well why don't you jump off the Golden Gate bridge? And it's "our", not "are".

bullshit, just kept it short and sweet and scathing.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Thanksgiving is a joy.

why not just get a turkey breast and roast it (about 3 lbs or so)? That's what I usually do if I don't go out (dinner for 1).

And we have an unwritten rule about arguments at family gatherings. In fact in all my 42 years I hear bickering at a family party for the first time last month.... but I think that had more to do with my elderly aunts getting on each others nerves while one recovers from an injury at the others home One was convinced her burger was made with the wrong percentage fat hamburg....

I had every intention on spending Thanksgiving at home with just me and my son (husband is deployed). We were going to sit around in our pajamas all day and eat and watch holiday movies. But my in laws just could not have that! They decided to invite themselves over for the day. I hate entertaining my in laws when my husband is not around. They are not bad people, just loud and a little annoying. I'm also very much an introvert, and I cannot tolerate boisterous people for too long.

Most of the family is either moderate or liberal with only a couple of brainwashed righties. Actually, I can't wait to see them though I will try my best not to gloat.

Intentionally made plans months ago. Did not want to hear the whining, or gloating if the unthinkable had happened! Fortunately, I will be with my sister, instead of the in-laws.

Christmas is pure chaos for us so Thanksgiving is the time to chill out and no travelling everywhere. My husband plays 3 church services for Christmas being a church organist. We are liberal Christians, such a concept. And we see all sides of our family, it's really busy.

Hopefully, the girls having fun will ease the tension. My conservative mother had a bit of a freak out the day after. It is only getting somewhat better. I love her and my equally conservative father and my conservative father and law and his wife. But it's time to move on already.

Should be interesting.

That is what we, hubby, me and the two conures have.

There is a little left over, but nothing insane.

Other than the racists in this country, is there any other group that does what you describe? I have never seen another group do so.

Dammit.

He's deep-frying the turkey and is a super guy. He'll take some major ribbing from the rest of us, but he'll be cool and we'll all hug. Why do so many folks take this to extremes? He's family. We love him. He loves us. Done deal.

I ended up calling my babs bush clone of a mother-in-law a partsan bitch at the table, after she wouldn't shut up- after having promised not to bring up politics that day to her daughter(my wife's sis), the hostess.
my wife and i left in a hurry after that, and we weren't back for almost 6 years.

I live in MA and my whole family is a bunch of screaming liberals, as are my aunt, uncle, and my cousin and his wife.

We'll talk politics, all right-mostly about how much we hate Republicans.

dems. Most grew up in union house holds and the ones who didn't, work at union jobs.

Planning a big huge delicious feast, though its only us four. But now that I think of it, a close (and like-minded) neighbor has three daughters in town, maybe I'll ask tomorrow if they want to combine resources for the day.

We usually get a 6 or 7 lb turkey breast.

There are many, many other things to talk about.

I made a joke about a book author's three names yesterday and Mom's reply was
"well The President has three names but we're not allowed to use the middle one or we're racists..."
Me - ""Talk to you later Mom."

I plan on having a family dinner even with my republican family. I love them and they love me. We will share a turkey...or a tofurkey in my case.

A frozen pie baked the night before. A turkey breast baked in a cooking bag. Baked potatos in the microwave. Brown and serve rolls. The obligatory green bean casserole. A bottle of nice white wine - I recommend a New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc. A favorite movie or football on the TV. Some friskiness after the meal digests a bit. If you plan it right, gthe prep time is about 45 minutes and nice memories that can last a long time.

I'll try it!

We cleaned up that situation a couple years ago by un-inviting my nephew.

But Mrs. tom was just flat wore out from preparing Thanksgiving dinner for 30 plus people with basically no help from sons, daughters, grandkids, nieces and nephews and whoever else. So she asked me if I would mind not having dinner at our house this year and I said I'd welcome the rest as well.

So we fired up the RV and headed out and we're spending the rest of the year camping on the lovely central coast of CA. Maybe I'll grill a small turkey for Thanksgiving or maybe we'll just go out for Chinese like in the Christmas story movie.

I was disinvited after the 2004 election. I admitted to voting for John Kerry and my entire family is still convinced I have forfeited my soul by contributing to abortion. So, unless I come to Jesus, I am not allowed near them.

Brother's going to his daughter's boyfriends's mom's.
Brother's girlfriend's going to Hawaii for her brother's wedding.
Niece is going to her mom's.

That leaves me and dad and a couple of nice steaks.

and still have enough left over for sandwiches.

For just two people, I'd be more likely to do a duck. I don't think turkey has a lot of flavor but duck has more than its share. In addition, you get duck fat for cooking potatoes and there is nothing better than duck fat for cooking potatoes.

I might also get a capon. They're much larger than the average whole broiler, more flavorful than turkey and they give you drumsticks, something the turkey breast doesn't do.

I'd suggest goose, but it's a bit much for two people and can get very pricey, even frozen.

Or you could be utterly unconventional and eat prime rib or filet mignon or fancy ham. It's your Thanksgiving. Make your own tradition.

Enjoy the peace and thankfulness.

where my son lives--he was for Obama before it was even cool in 2007

My husband's the one who is politically-challenged.

Instead, I am having dinner with my hubby, kids and some good liberal friends!

that have Thanksgiving buffets. We went to one last year. The staff at the small restaurant we went to was so proud of their handiwork that I enjoyed their attitude as much as the meal. Maybe you could do something like that.

Our sibs live in other states, although they're all decent--whether Dems or Repubs--so it wouldn't matter. However, we're still enjoying being on our own for the holidays, so we have no plans to spend them with anyone other than dear, local friends. My sympathy is with those who don't feel they have a choice other than to grit their teeth and try to get through the day(s).

Good, it's a 300 mile drive out there anyway.

I don't mind having a meal with any of my family, even the fundies, although I am a pain in the ass to have over for dinner because of my dietary restrictions anymore. Just meat and non-starchy veggies for me...

Politics trumps blood? Really?

When you talk about giving thanks for what you care about, it should include "them" so to speak.

I think your idiot remark is a little uncalled for since we all have different situations in life don't you agree?

Writing off family based on politics is...stupid.

Here is what you said:
I am.
The tears of my GOP family will make the turkey taste funny.
And I just don't want to hear it.
The complaints, the excuses, The bullshit misinformation.
We are enjoying this and not going to let "them" spoil it for us.
The spouse and I will be holding our own Thanksgiving dinner for two (and a dog) where we can give thanks for what we care about.

And no, I haven't met your family and reserve judgment on your "idiot remark" statement.

But, I hate to make it an issue but you've judged the lives of others.

Don't hate the messenger for pointing out the obvious.

Just saying. LOL!

politics often trumps blood literally

I dont include homophobic greedy racists.Perhaps you are more accommodating.


I'm not

It's the first Thanksgiving that my parents are doing separate dinners, having split up 2 years ago (last year we all got together as a family anyway). Also, it's the first Thanksgiving without my grandmother, who passed away last January. It's going to be really sad because it was her favorite holiday.

On the bright side, my best friend is coming in from Milwaukee to have dinner with her family, so I will get to see her.

You make me realize that things could be a lot worse...I could have Republicans in my family.

Just calmly rise from the table when they begin whining and moaning. Then, like Kevin Spacey in American Beauty, take the big long dish of dressing and just plaster it against the dining room wall. Then growl, "There's your George Bush".

Like a support group for liberals coping with GOP families? I don't know if others can understand how conflicting it can actually be?

I'd love to discuss the shortcomings of your family's political party.

Wild Turkey. Mixes well with tears...

Even he voted for Obama this year (finally figured out he IS the 47%). I never go anyway. I'd rather stay home with the dogs, have a turkey sandwich and watch old movies. I'll phone it in as usual!

Our two families have been friends for years.

slept in and wore pajamas all day

not that i wanna hear the bitching. i believe its mostly familial as our great-grandfather or great-great was a republican secretary of state. my politics is from my other grandpa, + also, my brother didn't get breast fed. now, what if she had?

That way you can still stuff it--have dark and white meat--and some leftovers.

Or better still, invite some friends of your same political persuasion who don't have family
in the area and bask in the glow of the win!

My folks are dead and the kids grown and gone. It will be just me and the husband.

We will always have big Thanksgiving dinners, but I see no problem with anyone who opts for their own small one.

If they throw a fit, drop in for desert and coffee for 1/2 an hour.

So no problem....should be relaxing.

Then no one gets hurt!

Family values: I felt justified in describing Limbaugh as a drug addict who was divorced a lot and draft dodger. I never said anything about suspected pedophilia, just the stuff covered in mainstream news.

I think Reagan was president then.

She went "Fox Newz Mitt Romney nuts" and blasted the entire family via e-mail. Oh, well. Less travel for us.

mikey_the_rat

GOP side of fam.,haven't heard from them in 6 months,I was wondering what a good response would be since they just called couple hrs.ago.I am a single person,and am just not feelin' it given there are unresolved issues with this side,I have done the single dinner scenario before,I love my family but the last minute invite isn't sitting well with me,help me out,thanks