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Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:26 PM Nov 2012

New York Times: Christian Right Failed to Sway Voters on Issues

Christian Right Failed to Sway Voters on Issues

by LAURIE GOODSTEIN

Published: November 9, 2012

It is not as though they did not put up a fight; they went all out as never before: The Rev. Billy Graham dropped any pretense of nonpartisanship and all but endorsed Mitt Romney for president. Roman Catholic bishops denounced President Obama’s policies as a threat to life, religious liberty and the traditional nuclear family. Ralph Reed’s Faith and Freedom Coalition distributed more voter guides in churches and contacted more homes by mail and phone than ever before.

“Millions of American evangelicals are absolutely shocked by not just the presidential election, but by the entire avalanche of results that came in,” R. Albert Mohler Jr., president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, in Louisville, Ky., said in an interview. “It’s not that our message — we think abortion is wrong, we think same-sex marriage is wrong — didn’t get out. It did get out. “It’s that the entire moral landscape has changed,” he said. “An increasingly secularized America understands our positions, and has rejected them

However, they acknowledge that they are losing ground. The evangelical share of the population is both declining and graying, studies show. Large churches like the Southern Baptist Convention and the Assemblies of God, which have provided an organizing base for the Christian right, are losing members. “In the long run, this means that the Republican constituency is going to be shrinking on the religious end as well as the ethnic end,” said James L. Guth, a professor of political science at Furman University in Greenville, S.C

Meanwhile, religious liberals are gradually becoming more visible. Liberal clergy members spoke out in support of same-sex marriage, and one group ran ads praising Mr. Obama’s health care plan for insuring the poor and the sick. In a development that highlighted the diversity within the Catholic Church, the “Nuns on the Bus” drove through the Midwest warning that the budget proposed by Representative Paul D. Ryan, the Republican vice-presidential nominee, would cut the social safety net.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/us/politics/christian-conservatives-failed-to-sway-voters.html?src=me&ref=general

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New York Times: Christian Right Failed to Sway Voters on Issues (Original Post) Douglas Carpenter Nov 2012 OP
A meaasge to fundie teabaggers... MarianJack Nov 2012 #1
hard for HATEFUL christians and christian hypocrites to sway underthematrix Nov 2012 #2
The Culture Wars are over, and WE WON. Odin2005 Nov 2012 #3
It's one thing to shame people into feeling guilty for sinning because socialindependocrat Nov 2012 #4

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
1. A meaasge to fundie teabaggers...
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:30 PM
Nov 2012

...is running on a pro-rape palatform is never a good idea.

WHY does this have to be explained to them?

WHY are they too friggin' stupid to learn it?

PEACE!

socialindependocrat

(1,372 posts)
4. It's one thing to shame people into feeling guilty for sinning because
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:58 PM
Nov 2012

They may feel guilty but they still have the choice to sin and ask for redemption later.

BUT

To set up laws that take away the people's tight to choose is going too far.

Like my parents said, "We can only teach you to be a good person.
What you do with the rest of your life is up to you."

There is a control issue here.
These people want control over the lives of others.
which takes control away from the individual.
This is why people try to stay out of prisons - they want to maintain control of themselves.
Once you take a person's rights away, what's the sense?
That's why the U.S. is different from China and Russia
That's why we're Americans - so we have freedom of choice

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