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Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:18 AM Nov 2012

Angry tea party activists say Mitt Romney was too moderate and the GOP undermined 'true conservative

Tea party activists blame losses on Republican establishment

But for conservatives who identify with the tea party, one emotion seemed to dominate all others: a white-hot anger at the Republican establishment. Tea party supporters are angry at the GOP for embracing as its presidential nominee a "moderate" like Romney. For undermining "true conservative" candidates. And for "choosing to ignore" the conservative agenda.

Wednesday, the political direct-mail pioneer Richard Viguerie gathered a group of disenchanted conservatives for a news conference in Washington. Calling Romney's loss "the death rattle" of the GOP, Viguerie, chairman of ConservativeHQ.com, said, "The battle to take over the Republican Party begins today."

He called upon the Republican leadership to resign for its part in the "epic election failure of 2012." That includes Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus, who has not announced whether he will run for the post again, House Speaker John A. Boehner of Ohio and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.

Still, most of the 55 House tea party caucus members who ran for reelection Tuesday will return to their seats, guaranteeing that the group's influence will continue to be felt in Congress. Two high-profile members were turned out of office — Allen West of Florida and Joe Walsh of Illinois. But tea party caucus founder Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota kept her job, if barely.

"The very people who keep nominating moderates now call us purists, the way the left calls us purists," Levin said Wednesday. "And we have to hear this crap from pseudo-conservatives and Republicans."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-tea-party-20121111,0,4516315.story


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Angry tea party activists say Mitt Romney was too moderate and the GOP undermined 'true conservative (Original Post) Douglas Carpenter Nov 2012 OP
I guess they must not realize what a minority position they truly hold. CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2012 #1
Lather, rinse, repeat.... Wounded Bear Nov 2012 #2
O yeah abelenkpe Nov 2012 #3
unfortunately they have the large wins of 2010 Heather MC Nov 2012 #4
Anyone remember 2 years ago when the tea party said "we are NOT republicans." Chipper Chat Nov 2012 #5
These are not intelligent people. kaiserhog Nov 2012 #6
No kidding! mimi85 Nov 2012 #11
Perhaps true. They would likely have done better with another candidate. David__77 Nov 2012 #7
in 1980 the demographics favorable toward conservative Republicans were in their ascendancy and the Douglas Carpenter Nov 2012 #8
That is my thought as well. David__77 Nov 2012 #10
We all know that jmowreader Nov 2012 #9

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,652 posts)
1. I guess they must not realize what a minority position they truly hold.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:23 AM
Nov 2012

If the Republican party had nominated a "true conservative" they would have suffered a much larger loss than they did.

They are so far out of step with what the majority of Americans want, that it isn't even funny.

Wounded Bear

(58,675 posts)
2. Lather, rinse, repeat....
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:27 AM
Nov 2012

They'll never get it. It'll take a couple of cycles to wash that crap out of our collective hair.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
3. O yeah
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:27 AM
Nov 2012

Go further right. Haven't pissed off enough people yet? I'm sure that will help woo women and minorities.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
4. unfortunately they have the large wins of 2010
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:32 AM
Nov 2012

that give them so much hope. We have to stay on the ball and boot the rest of tea baggers out in 2014 otherwise the crazy cycle will keep spinning in their mind.

Chipper Chat

(9,684 posts)
5. Anyone remember 2 years ago when the tea party said "we are NOT republicans."
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:36 AM
Nov 2012

THey claimed they were "grassroots americans not afilliated with any party." They were egged on by GOP members of congress, still claiming they were independent. Michele Bachman let the cat out of the bag with her "we need to embrace them." Now the teahadists have CLAIMED the GOP. Look what they did to Richard Lugar and Olympia Snowe. It is now the Teapublican Party. I'm not sure the moderate wing even has a pulse.

David__77

(23,427 posts)
7. Perhaps true. They would likely have done better with another candidate.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:10 AM
Nov 2012

It is as if Ford ran against Carter in 1980. Romney was a truly terrible candidate and absolutely uninspiring ideologically. I was very pleased when he won his primary campaign and knew he would go the way of his she-analogue Meg Whitman.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
8. in 1980 the demographics favorable toward conservative Republicans were in their ascendancy and the
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:27 AM
Nov 2012

demographics favorable toward liberal Democrats were declining. Now the demographics favorable toward the conservative Republicans are in decline - particularly a brand of conservative Republicans that are intrinsically hostile toward religious and ethnic minorities, socially liberal and multiculturally minded youth, more secularly minded people and independent minded women. There are just not enough fundamentalist Christians and angry white men with sycophantic wives to comprise a sustainable and viable conservative majority anymore.

David__77

(23,427 posts)
10. That is my thought as well.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:29 PM
Nov 2012

Upon reflection... If we somehow had as close a repeat as historically possible of the 1972 election, McGovern would do much, much better today. It's a matter of a very, very different electorate.

jmowreader

(50,561 posts)
9. We all know that
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:13 AM
Nov 2012

The question is, would they have done better with another candidate more along the lines of Rick Santorum, or another candidate more along the lines of, say, Gerald Ford? And this reveals the GOP's true weakness: a candidate more attuned to the desires of the people who vote in Republican primary elections--Santorum, Gingrich, Herman Cain if he could have kept his dick in his pants--isn't electable in November when the Democrats and Unaffiliateds start playing; a candidate who can win the general election will never make it that far because Republican primary voters won't accept him.

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