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Louisiana Secession Petition (whitehouse.gov) (Original Post) Ruby the Liberal Nov 2012 OP
Can I sign if I am not from Louisiana? democrattotheend Nov 2012 #1
"can i sign it, too?" aletier_v Nov 2012 #2
I did when I saw it. Ruby the Liberal Nov 2012 #3
You can friedgreentomatoes Nov 2012 #43
Yes. nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #67
Let's start a giant fence building fund with all Heather MC Nov 2012 #4
They have no idea, elleng Nov 2012 #5
Yep that is it in a nutshell. Rex Nov 2012 #46
So,what do they plan Rincewind Nov 2012 #6
Yeah PatrickS Nov 2012 #40
we'll keep New Orleans ibegurpard Nov 2012 #7
I love New Orleans. Great people there. Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #37
Yep, save New Orleans, dump the rest!!! RKP5637 Nov 2012 #58
if i already signed the texas one- can i sign this one too? BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #8
We don't need your help ornotna Nov 2012 #10
The poster was just pointing out that if the assholes want to leave, let them. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #69
More than one state PatrickS Nov 2012 #9
See post above n/t ornotna Nov 2012 #11
Holy cow. Where's Utah? aletier_v Nov 2012 #12
uh...there are no Montanans on the Montana petition... ibegurpard Nov 2012 #14
And hardly any New Yorkers on the New York petition. smirkymonkey Nov 2012 #50
Your first link is to a White Nationalist site and your last is to World Net Daily Ruby the Liberal Nov 2012 #15
More like research habits than reading habits PatrickS Nov 2012 #21
Yes, my google is set to deep crawl sf.org and wnd.com too. Ruby the Liberal Nov 2012 #23
Google is free PatrickS Nov 2012 #25
Meh, Stormfront's a reasonable link if we're discussing that kind of batshit madness. Posteritatis Nov 2012 #31
I love shit like this! nt Walk away Nov 2012 #53
You invited it with your OP. cordelia Nov 2012 #41
WTF are you on about now? Ruby the Liberal Nov 2012 #42
The Arkansas petition only has 33 signatories Art_from_Ark Nov 2012 #16
We'll fight you in Missouri. xmas74 Nov 2012 #19
Stormfront? Really? Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #20
You have more in common with Stormfront than you know aletier_v Nov 2012 #22
No, actually, I don't. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #34
I agree. Fuck the nazis. Raster Nov 2012 #55
I'm movin' to... dchill Nov 2012 #26
I want the Widespread Panic, R.E.M., Allman Bros., B-52s Georgia. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #35
Oh my fucking god. The link "Entire List" link takes you to the message board on Stormfront. Raster Nov 2012 #54
Holy Christ! Everyone wants out lol WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2012 #13
I wish I coud feign shock. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #17
They should all be given a hellhole to migrate to for free and be gone. And I say good RKP5637 Nov 2012 #61
Whoa, wait, wait wait. We can't just let the entire nation secede. 2pooped2pop Nov 2012 #63
I wish I could feign surprise nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #18
See how crazy these morons are Jack Sprat Nov 2012 #24
Yep, well said. All mine and none for you. They are absolute jerks and are intent on destroying RKP5637 Nov 2012 #62
Shocking! LA leads TX!! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2012 #27
Start date PatrickS Nov 2012 #28
Same thing that was wrong the last time states tried seccession... Agnosticsherbet Nov 2012 #29
Hopefully, the upshot from all of this will be that... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2012 #30
Heading back to Cascadia Next Week kurt_cagle Nov 2012 #44
I spent my first 23 years in the SF Bay Area... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2012 #49
sign it..... kcdoug1 Nov 2012 #32
maybe we need to PowerToThePeople Nov 2012 #33
Not to mention it was found to be illegal, I believe, in Kohlhaas v. State sakabatou Nov 2012 #36
Texas, Alabama, and now Louisiana. distantearlywarning Nov 2012 #38
Hardly any Floridians signed the Florida one. The should just have N Florida be part of Georgia. Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #39
+++ 1,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Nov 2012 #64
Good to know that The Stupid doesn't Rex Nov 2012 #45
They maybe hopeless politically, but they still have New Orelans SpartanDem Nov 2012 #47
Maybe we could just fence off one of the square states Ruby the Liberal Nov 2012 #48
And build a very high fence around it? calico1 Nov 2012 #52
What are they going to do when the next Katrina hits? calico1 Nov 2012 #51
FU**, let them go, I wish they would secede. I'm so fed up with their bullshit and others like them. RKP5637 Nov 2012 #56
If it all works, our blue states can take their moderates and liberals and our blue states will send bluestate10 Nov 2012 #71
I would move for that! I would like to get as far as possible from the right-wingers. They're RKP5637 Nov 2012 #73
If the whole state is getting welfare from why don't they figure a way to make them self-supporting socialindependocrat Nov 2012 #57
We should feel sorry for the people in these states Progressive dog Nov 2012 #59
Thanks IphengeniaBlumgarten Nov 2012 #72
Petitions AdmiralGilgamesh Nov 2012 #75
This would count as sedition, right? jmowreader Nov 2012 #60
Louisiana which has not performed well since Right to work passed. Thinkingabout Nov 2012 #65
Grant them freedom. Take back our federal tax money sent to LA. Citizens that don't want to bluestate10 Nov 2012 #66
Great. Now we'll have room for Puerto Rico without having to add a star on the flag. Orangepeel Nov 2012 #68
Fuck them with an iron stick. Leave, assholes. hifiguy Nov 2012 #70
Lulz AdmiralGilgamesh Nov 2012 #74

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
1. Can I sign if I am not from Louisiana?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:34 AM
Nov 2012

If they want to secede, I am all for it.

I didn't even realize you could start petitions on the Whitehouse website...I guess that's part of the president's initiative to make the website interactive. Very cool.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
4. Let's start a giant fence building fund with all
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:46 AM
Nov 2012

the federal money we will save once they are gone. Because you know we have to keep the "illegals" out

elleng

(131,006 posts)
5. They have no idea,
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:52 AM
Nov 2012

don't understand government or democracy. They are ignorant, and kept that way deliberately.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
46. Yep that is it in a nutshell.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:32 PM
Nov 2012

And some stay ignorant, lest they have to use one of those braincells in their head!

PatrickS

(294 posts)
40. Yeah
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:51 AM
Nov 2012

You'd think that after the way a republican like W handled the Katrina disaster that they'd be happy to have a Democrat for President. Weird.

 

BlueMan Votes

(903 posts)
8. if i already signed the texas one- can i sign this one too?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:00 AM
Nov 2012

i'm from IL.

hopefully MS, AL, GA and FL get their petitions up SOON.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
69. The poster was just pointing out that if the assholes want to leave, let them.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:24 PM
Nov 2012

We should stop sending federal tax money to those red state immediately and give people that want to leave and stay with the USA up to a year and a half to leave and resettle. The red states will be hit by pestilence after they leave, so will we, but the difference is that we will be able to pay for rebuilding.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
15. Your first link is to a White Nationalist site and your last is to World Net Daily
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:15 AM
Nov 2012

Interesting browsing habits.



Edit - that sf.org link is to page 36 of a 49 page thread. Tellng.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
23. Yes, my google is set to deep crawl sf.org and wnd.com too.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:50 AM
Nov 2012

Lots of links out there on this tonight, yet page 36 of a sf.org thread and world nut daily is what you bring to DU?

Your "research" skills be a bit rusty given your target audience. Can you at least pretend?

PatrickS

(294 posts)
25. Google is free
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:09 AM
Nov 2012

Searched "Louisiana Secede" in Google and there's the link with the full list of states.

Considering the type who wants to secede, you won't find a link with such a list at Huffington Post or a left leaning site.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
31. Meh, Stormfront's a reasonable link if we're discussing that kind of batshit madness.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:37 AM
Nov 2012

They and their ilk drive that sort of thing pretty heavily, so I don't snarkily implying someone's a disruptor on account of being aware of what they're saying is that appropriate, especially since the thread's pretty obviously about what those guys are thinking.

cordelia

(2,174 posts)
41. You invited it with your OP.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:56 AM
Nov 2012

We all know you hate those of us in the red states, particularly those of us in the South.

Must be sad to be so hate-filled.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
16. The Arkansas petition only has 33 signatories
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:16 AM
Nov 2012

and no one claiming to be from Arkansas has signed it.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
19. We'll fight you in Missouri.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:22 AM
Nov 2012

Yes, we went for Romney but our governor, our Sec of State, a couple of congresspersons and a senator are Dems. (Our senate race was one of the most closely watched in the nation this last go-round.)

We're are the Land of Truman and I hope that Tuesday was the slow start of bringing that back.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
61. They should all be given a hellhole to migrate to for free and be gone. And I say good
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:17 PM
Nov 2012

riddance. Save the state and dump these jerks into their own hellhole of their own state.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
63. Whoa, wait, wait wait. We can't just let the entire nation secede.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:22 PM
Nov 2012

Not all of us that are in red states want out. I think we will maybe have to pick a state or two to give up. The only way this works is if all the repuklicans agree to move to these states that we allow to secede.

Now we need to pick states.

I give one vote to oust Missouri.

anyone else?

Please list which states you would prefer to give up if we can come to an agreement.

 

Jack Sprat

(2,500 posts)
24. See how crazy these morons are
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:08 AM
Nov 2012

They have become so very obvious. If we had resorted to this when Reagan or the Bushes took office, they would have accused us of treason.

They began this pattern during the Clinton 90s, demanding his impeachment, coming up with all sorts of assasination theories, and opposing any military actions during his term.

Now it's taken on an additional racial tone, in that we happen to have a president who isn't pure lily white. They want revolution and secession now. The rethugs have really demonstrated to the rest of the world how uncivil a society we're capable of being, how racially charged our society is, and how opposed to human rights that one of our major national parties is.

There is no doubt now. It has become apparent to all the world that a large segment of our citizens, particularly white males, feel absolutely entitled to everything of value this nation produces. They don't want to share, and now some of them are willing to destroy it all to keep from having to share it. If they can't maintain complete dominance, then they don't want to play the game anymore.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
62. Yep, well said. All mine and none for you. They are absolute jerks and are intent on destroying
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:22 PM
Nov 2012

this nation. I call all of them terrorists.

PatrickS

(294 posts)
28. Start date
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:25 AM
Nov 2012

If you look at the date the petitions were created, Louisiana was first, on November 7 while the Texas petition was made on the 9th. Texas is catching up though. When I looked earlier today, there were only 300+ signatures for Texas so that means 4k signed up since then.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
30. Hopefully, the upshot from all of this will be that...
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:30 AM
Nov 2012

someday I will live in the sovereign nation of Yankeedom.



OK, we can work on the name but that's what they've got on the map already

kurt_cagle

(534 posts)
44. Heading back to Cascadia Next Week
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:26 PM
Nov 2012

I'm returning to Seattle after seven years away, definitely looking forward to it, especially after the state elected a completely blue slate this time around, and legalized both gay marriage and pot (I'm neither gay nor a pot smoker, but I've always felt the discrimination against both to be silly).

The funny thing is that most of the people in Cascadia self-identify as such, almost as much as they identify themselves as Americans. In a way, this makes a lot of sense - it is 2500 miles from Seattle to Washington DC, roughly the same distance as London is from Moscow. Culturally, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle and Vancouver, BC share a common history, common values, and a similar climate. One of these years, when the burdens of union weigh too heavily, Cascadia will be an independent nation, though that may be decades in the future yet.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
49. I spent my first 23 years in the SF Bay Area...
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:35 PM
Nov 2012

I don't know anything about Cascadia, but if it doesn't extend to Marin, SF, and down into Monterey County of California, then Northern California should be it's own country. South of Monterey is a completely different country.

EDIT: I just checked the map I posted and it confirms this. Of course, being a native Californian, nobody had to tell me that Southern California (South of Monterey County) is a different country.

Michigan Alum

(335 posts)
39. Hardly any Floridians signed the Florida one. The should just have N Florida be part of Georgia.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:25 AM
Nov 2012

They are much more like them. The panhandle can be part of Alabama. Our state would very blue without those idiots.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
45. Good to know that The Stupid doesn't
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:28 PM
Nov 2012

fall far from my state (Texas). The real problem here is that these maggots infest our wonderful country. Aww...did I call them maggots? They want OUR country. And I don't think so...

SpartanDem

(4,533 posts)
47. They maybe hopeless politically, but they still have New Orelans
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:18 PM
Nov 2012

now Mississippi and Alabama... I signed for them. Texas will be blue in a decade.... keep them. GA...Obama had 46% of vote there maybe hope for them...so they can stay.

calico1

(8,391 posts)
51. What are they going to do when the next Katrina hits?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:58 PM
Nov 2012

Are they idiots? Oh...never mind.


Let's annex New Orleans and then cast the rest of the state off.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
56. FU**, let them go, I wish they would secede. I'm so fed up with their bullshit and others like them.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:05 PM
Nov 2012

They're boat anchors. That said, I know there are good people in Louisiana, some of my relatives are from there and they are not these jerks. ... but there is an element of this country that should just go off on their own. I'm fed up with hearing their backward bullshit, and they're not redeemable.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
71. If it all works, our blue states can take their moderates and liberals and our blue states will send
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:38 PM
Nov 2012

them our right-wingers. Great deal for us based upon the righties that I know.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
73. I would move for that! I would like to get as far as possible from the right-wingers. They're
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:25 PM
Nov 2012

a bunch of degenerates IMO. They're a depressing backward lot that the rest of us have to drag along. I'm fed up with it ...

socialindependocrat

(1,372 posts)
57. If the whole state is getting welfare from why don't they figure a way to make them self-supporting
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:09 PM
Nov 2012

I f we need to figure how to get people back to work and off the welfare rolls
they may as well start with the state of LA, right?

Progressive dog

(6,905 posts)
59. We should feel sorry for the people in these states
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:12 PM
Nov 2012

and not make fun of them. As some have pointed out, only a tiny number of people have signed these petitions and many are not from the states themselves.

75. Petitions
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:32 PM
Nov 2012

Perhaps we could start a petition to kill the other petition? Or petition to reaffirm our status as an actual state.

jmowreader

(50,561 posts)
60. This would count as sedition, right?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:13 PM
Nov 2012

It would also count as abject stupidity...whatever would Opelousas and Breaux Bridge do without all the tax money Massachusetts and Vermont send them?

This is all so stupid...knuckleheads want to secede because Obama doesn't want them to continue in the family tradition of dying of some easily treatable disease, leaving half the family fortune to the hospital? Oh yeah, he might resurrect the assault weapons ban. None of the people up in arms over this would buy an assault rifle anyway - you can get a bolt action rifle AND a pistol for the price of an AR-15 - but poutrage is always fun.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
65. Louisiana which has not performed well since Right to work passed.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:06 PM
Nov 2012

Wages not much more than minimum wages, turned red and they don't have a clue. The governor is cutting retirement to state workers, probably happy to see social security cut and thinks he is on his way to Washington. They should be kicking his butt. They hate minorities, cried like a baby wanting President Obama to come to the Gulf Coast after the BP oil spill. If he was ready for Washington he should have performed better in Louisiana.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
66. Grant them freedom. Take back our federal tax money sent to LA. Citizens that don't want to
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:19 PM
Nov 2012

live in the free state of Louisiana have free passage to other states. After the people that want out of the free Louisiana leave, fuck the rest.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
70. Fuck them with an iron stick. Leave, assholes.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:27 PM
Nov 2012

Apologies to our good DUers in LA, but I am so sick of this racist shit.

74. Lulz
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:30 PM
Nov 2012

Yes, let's succeed and let the private interests of billionaires take over the state, just like segments of national government.

Nothing would change except for the fact that we'd be poorer than sin. Unless we're all growing sugar cane and working offshore there's not much we can do in the confines of geographical Louisiana.

What a fucking mess. Though, if North Louisiana wants to succeed they can be my guest; that's just Arkansas #2 anyways.

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