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TrogL

(32,822 posts)
Sat May 6, 2023, 11:54 AM May 2023

I'm blowing soot out of my nose

I'm a bomb baby. I grew up across the river from the North Tonawanda Air Reserve Base. I've been reliably informed they had nuclear weapons there. I watched US TV from Buffalo NY because they had the good cartoons but they would often have air raid practice drills with the infamous bee-doop alarm.

I was listening to it all day yesterday. The local government has chosen it for its emergency tone for cell phone alerts.

I live in Edmonton in Central Alberta, Canada. Yesterday they had to evacuate near Entwhistle, Evansberg, Leduc and finally near Sherwood Park. I'm surrounded by fires. A couple of years ago I was in the Slave Lake fire that destroyed half the city. I was driving between burning trees, past destroyed businesses dodging abandoned vehicles. I had to go to the hospital because the fire retardant damaged my corneas.

I drive around handing out parking tickets. Yesterday I was watching the smoke a couple of kilometres away and was doing sort of OK until I tried to turn off the highway to go home and there was a fire in my way. That's when I lost it. I drove home through smoke sometimes like mid-heavy fog, coughing and choking.

I did get home yesterday and got calmed down talking on my Zoom AA meeting and sat and watched some TV. Then I had a nosebleed. My sinuses were so dry they spontaneously just let go. I eventually got to sleep and woke up and had to blow my nose. Dried blood mixed with soot.

I was at church last Sunday and an authoritarian made the point that Alberta has often had bad forest fires so this is "normal". I used to work for the Alberta Forest Service. Those fires were in late Summer. This is May.

This is not normal.

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I'm blowing soot out of my nose (Original Post) TrogL May 2023 OP
It is definitely not normal... Spazito May 2023 #1
Thanks TrogL May 2023 #3
No not normal, I lived for many years in the Okanagan in BC and fires became almost routine Bev54 May 2023 #9
I don't think there has been an extreme heat alert this early.... Spazito May 2023 #13
I know, we went from snow falling a week before. It is crazy. Bev54 May 2023 #15
My sis lives in Westbank. flying_wahini May 2023 #24
Yes, West Kelowna, has for years been the centre for fires it seems, one of my old co-workers Bev54 May 2023 #25
Good grief! 2naSalit May 2023 #2
Omigod TrogL cilla4progress May 2023 #4
Thanks, I will TrogL May 2023 #5
Is there a face mask good enough to keep out smoke? Karadeniz May 2023 #6
Yes, but they're bloody expensive TrogL May 2023 #12
There is! DENVERPOPS May 2023 #17
Room for improvement!!! Karadeniz May 2023 #20
N95 will catch particulates but not gasses; face masks can add activated charcoal to help somewhat. NullTuples May 2023 #30
I think I've got some left over from COVID TrogL May 2023 #33
Far better than not wearing anything & it's the particulates that dry out your nose & throat. NullTuples May 2023 #36
Sorry for what you're going through democrank May 2023 #7
My son, Brett FarPoint May 2023 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author TrogL May 2023 #11
Any word? I can go looking if need be TrogL May 2023 #34
I called, left a message. FarPoint May 2023 #35
Wow you've been through it. Thanks for posting this and take care. appalachiablue May 2023 #10
Woah! Very scary experiences! I hope the weather will cool some till later in the summer. Stay safe electric_blue68 May 2023 #14
Authoritarians are so often wrong about things. I was raised Methodist. jaxexpat May 2023 #16
I had over a foot of wet snow accumulation on most of my front lawn. Disaffected May 2023 #18
The government will be giving an update at noon MDT... Spazito May 2023 #19
Over 20,000 people evacuated TrogL May 2023 #21
It really is getting scary... Spazito May 2023 #23
Planet's overheating. Duppers May 2023 #22
Another alert TrogL May 2023 #26
Yikes, hang in there. So stressful. JudyM May 2023 #31
Boy, 109 (subject to change) wildfires spread around western Alberta. Hortensis May 2023 #27
Ugh, I did that the whole time I lived in Boston Warpy May 2023 #28
Be careful. MuseRider May 2023 #29
It's an old issue TrogL May 2023 #32
I took this photo last year during the fires up north of San Francisco YoshidaYui May 2023 #37
Most of the past several years True Dough May 2023 #38
You too TrogL May 2023 #39
A little bit of a breather... True Dough May 2023 #40

Spazito

(50,511 posts)
1. It is definitely not normal...
Sat May 6, 2023, 12:01 PM
May 2023

I've lived here for 17 years and have never seen it this bad this early.

Be safe!

Bev54

(10,076 posts)
9. No not normal, I lived for many years in the Okanagan in BC and fires became almost routine
Sat May 6, 2023, 12:53 PM
May 2023

there, each summer because it is hot in the summer and sometimes starting in May. I have been in Calgary for the past 10 years and it seems in the past few years there have been more fires but I don't think we have had the hot dry weather so early in the year. I used to miss the hot summers of the Okanagan when I moved here as it seemed we got so little summer here. Last year was a hot summer and now we are in May and it is already hot. It is changing for sure.

Spazito

(50,511 posts)
13. I don't think there has been an extreme heat alert this early....
Sat May 6, 2023, 01:02 PM
May 2023

since I've lived here. It was 31 C a few days ago, I couldn't believe it!

flying_wahini

(6,667 posts)
24. My sis lives in Westbank.
Sat May 6, 2023, 02:40 PM
May 2023

Last years fires were so fast that they were evacuated twice. The last one took a couple of days to control. Scary.

Bev54

(10,076 posts)
25. Yes, West Kelowna, has for years been the centre for fires it seems, one of my old co-workers
Sat May 6, 2023, 03:50 PM
May 2023

lost his home in West Kelowna in I think 2009. I lived in Vernon but we saw many a fire and some very bad ones that all seem to start on the west side too. It was the smoke that would start to get to you, every day living in it, seemingly for the summer. When I first moved there in the 80's and throughout the 90's we had the occasional fires but in the last 20 years it has been annual.

cilla4progress

(24,782 posts)
4. Omigod TrogL
Sat May 6, 2023, 12:07 PM
May 2023

So sorry you are having to endure this devastation! I'm horrified that you and Alberta are going through this!

Terrifying, panic-inducing!

We lost our home in 1994 in a wildfire in inland Washington state. Every year, I am triggered as "fire season" arrives.

Stay safe, stay in touch!



TrogL

(32,822 posts)
12. Yes, but they're bloody expensive
Sat May 6, 2023, 12:57 PM
May 2023

I didn't think I needed one this far outside the regular fire zone

DENVERPOPS

(8,851 posts)
17. There is!
Sat May 6, 2023, 01:49 PM
May 2023

It is called an SCBA........non-wildland Fire fighters use them.........

The complete Self Contained Breathing Apparatus set up used by each firefighter is upwards of 5,000 bucks, and it only gives you typically 15-30 minutes of air before you have to change the air bottle.......(tank)

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
30. N95 will catch particulates but not gasses; face masks can add activated charcoal to help somewhat.
Sat May 6, 2023, 08:08 PM
May 2023

Still not as good as the professional gear fire workers wear, but anything is better than nothing when you are stuck somewhere.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
36. Far better than not wearing anything & it's the particulates that dry out your nose & throat.
Sun May 7, 2023, 02:03 AM
May 2023

The mask will help a LOT but please still try to avoid exposure when possible. Best of luck to you.

FarPoint

(12,463 posts)
8. My son, Brett
Sat May 6, 2023, 12:34 PM
May 2023

lives in Edmonton....he is from Ohio...He is Executive Chef at Glasshouse Kitchen and Bar....I probably then need to call him if there are fires going on....

Response to FarPoint (Reply #8)

FarPoint

(12,463 posts)
35. I called, left a message.
Sun May 7, 2023, 12:54 AM
May 2023

He called his sister earlier today...never mentioned anything about fires.

electric_blue68

(14,956 posts)
14. Woah! Very scary experiences! I hope the weather will cool some till later in the summer. Stay safe
Sat May 6, 2023, 01:09 PM
May 2023

While you're awake at home if you have put with that kind of stuff dampen bits of paper towel to put up your nostrils to dampen them.

(I don't know why I had a far amount of nose bleeds as a kid but they did stop.
Rare now too dry heating in the winter I get a saline spray before going to sleep.

Good luck!

jaxexpat

(6,860 posts)
16. Authoritarians are so often wrong about things. I was raised Methodist.
Sat May 6, 2023, 01:14 PM
May 2023

Methodists in my hometown were like Baptists, except with a high school degree. Presbyterians were close but had college degrees. The local Authoritarians would meet on the covered front porch of the general store every afternoon but Sundays around 2:00. Then at around 2:30 they'd all stomp off mad and ready to start it all again the next day. The store manager got tired of their arguing once and threatened to run them off for good, so they agreed to play nice but that didn't last but 1 day. The locals missed the entertainment of it so the manager laid off threatening them. He died and the store was closed in 1987.

Disaffected

(4,569 posts)
18. I had over a foot of wet snow accumulation on most of my front lawn.
Sat May 6, 2023, 01:55 PM
May 2023

It was gone within a week with practically no runoff. Looks like we might get some rain today and tonight though.

And yeah, my neighbour sez it was hot and dry during the 1930s so don't worry, be happy, all things will pass. He also mentioned dinosaur fossils being found in the Arctic....

Spazito

(50,511 posts)
19. The government will be giving an update at noon MDT...
Sat May 6, 2023, 01:57 PM
May 2023

here is the link to a live stream on CBC:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-wildfires-1.6834665

It was originally supposed to start at 11 am, here's hoping it does start at noon.

Spazito

(50,511 posts)
23. It really is getting scary...
Sat May 6, 2023, 02:31 PM
May 2023

conditions are changing every minute and areas that were considered safe are now needing to be watched very carefully. There is also a large area from Edmonton to the BC border that is under an air quality alert.

Duppers

(28,127 posts)
22. Planet's overheating.
Sat May 6, 2023, 02:23 PM
May 2023

Yet, folks are still having their 2 or 3 or 4+ kids. Yes, humans are causing the warming that's causing climate change that's causing the fires up your way.

Some here refuse to acknowledge that fact.

- DD

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Boy, 109 (subject to change) wildfires spread around western Alberta.
Sat May 6, 2023, 06:50 PM
May 2023

I'm really sorry, Trogt. I hadn't realized this was a dry spring up your way.

Just looked at protection because, although we've had plenty of rain in our green GA area so far, I was very dismayed to get a wirefire risk warning due to dryness. We're surrounded by woods.

The CDC does recommend N95 and P100 NIOSH particulate masks for those outdoors in smoke. Also to watch out and protect if cleaning up ash around our places.

https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/features/wildfires/index.html

Take care.

Warpy

(111,372 posts)
28. Ugh, I did that the whole time I lived in Boston
Sat May 6, 2023, 07:16 PM
May 2023

There were no fires (well, once we got drift smoke all the way from Appalachia), it was all pollution from cars and leftover soot from the bad old days of coal fired central heating. It was nasty. I also had inhalers to wheeze into.

We're in peak fire season here in NM, but it hasn't gotten started yet. After last year, we're all dreading it. Ours runs May-early July.

Just make sure your Bug Out Bag is packed and ready. No, this is not normal. Good luck to you and your neighbors.

MuseRider

(34,134 posts)
29. Be careful.
Sat May 6, 2023, 07:24 PM
May 2023

Also please, when you can, go to someone who can maybe help you with the nose bleeding. I know you probably have, this is just the ex-nurse in me.

Last week there were 2 nights I had to put a blanket on my old mare. Today it hit 94. There is not a night for the next week that will be 60 degrees or less. I lost my two old goats last year because of the heat. I have 3 old horses left. I do not know how to do more than I have.

Things are crazy and the fires are so scary.

I have several friends who are so grateful that they can do AA on zoom.

Be careful up there.

TrogL

(32,822 posts)
32. It's an old issue
Sat May 6, 2023, 09:44 PM
May 2023

Capillary too close to the surface inside my nose. It's been cauterized and everything else but it keeps growing back.

My grandson has the same issue in exactly the same location. Isn't genetics wonderful?

YoshidaYui

(41,867 posts)
37. I took this photo last year during the fires up north of San Francisco
Sun May 7, 2023, 04:08 AM
May 2023

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I took this photo last year during the fires up north of San Francisco - no filters used! This was in front of my house in the city.

True Dough

(17,337 posts)
38. Most of the past several years
Sun May 7, 2023, 11:14 AM
May 2023

has seen large swaths of Western Canada under heavy forest fire smoke and various communities threatened or even badly damaged. It is truly concerning.

I hope this summer brings enough rain to help get the situation under control, TrogL. Take care.

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