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cal04

(41,505 posts)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:42 AM Nov 2012

Kristol: It Won’t ‘Kill The Country’ To Raise Taxes On Millionaires (video)

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http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/kristol-raising-taxes-on-millionaires-wont-kill-country

Conservative Weekly Standard columnist Bill Kirstol said it won't kill the country to raise taxes on millionaires during an appearance on "Fox News Sunday." Kristol said that after a bad night on Election Day, Republicans should reassess their positions and be open to new ideas.

"Don't scream and yell when one person says, 'you know what, it won't kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires.' It really won't, I don't think," Kristol said.

Kristol continued, saying he doesn't understand why Republicans don't just take President Obama's offer to go ahead and extend the Bush tax cuts for everyone making under $250,000 per year while a larger deal is reached.

"Really? The Republican Party is going to fall on its sword to defend a bunch of millionaires, half of whom voted Democratic and half of whom live in Hollywood?," Kristol said.


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Kristol: It Won’t ‘Kill The Country’ To Raise Taxes On Millionaires (video) (Original Post) cal04 Nov 2012 OP
'Rational reasoning' are words not in the republican dictionary Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Kber Nov 2012 #2
He'll be tossed under the GOP bus in 3...2...1... JaneyVee Nov 2012 #3
First they'd have to pull him out from one of 10 previous buses JBoy Nov 2012 #4
Exactly... Repub is so stupid, many millionaires are Dem and willing to go along with Buffet JackN415 Nov 2012 #5
The entire front is collapsing alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #6
from a Former Palin-promoter! Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2012 #17
No, but Grover Norquist will commence with "I'm meeeelllllttiiiinnnng." Skidmore Nov 2012 #7
It would kill the GOP if they went along with it Major Nikon Nov 2012 #8
Kristol knows damn well it's not all millionaires zentrum Nov 2012 #9
They also know they can raise taxes on the "rich" without ever touching these people Major Nikon Nov 2012 #13
"You don't affect investment income." We have a winner! n/t A Simple Game Nov 2012 #22
Bwhahahaha.. Yesterday Hannity was SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #10
It would HELP our country SHRED Nov 2012 #11
those Dems who voted for Obama and those that live in CA SemperEadem Nov 2012 #12
Yeah - he's history now. geckosfeet Nov 2012 #14
This from Sarah Palen's not so secret crush? We really did win big. Bada Bing Bada Boom. sonibeth Nov 2012 #15
The rich did not spend enough to buy this election. Festivito Nov 2012 #16
That's the best explanation that I've heard. n/t amandabeech Nov 2012 #25
So much for Bill Kristol.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #18
He just wants the new revenue to pay for another war. Daniel537 Nov 2012 #19
I don't want to necessarily kill the GOP... Moostache Nov 2012 #20
Oh noes! Iliyah Nov 2012 #21
Kristol says he doesn't beleive that raising taxes on the rich, iemitsu Nov 2012 #23
Notice the new talking point? drm604 Nov 2012 #24
Kristol Apparently FORGOT: Iggy Nov 2012 #26
his magnanimty is suspicious; i suspect they are going to ask for quid pro quo; tax hikes in exhang amborin Nov 2012 #27

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
1. 'Rational reasoning' are words not in the republican dictionary
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:50 AM
Nov 2012

Republican have to decide if their pledge to Norquist or their Oath of Office is supreme
If they decide that they owe Norquist then they are traitors
and should be brought up on charges

Response to cal04 (Original post)

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
7. No, but Grover Norquist will commence with "I'm meeeelllllttiiiinnnng."
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:48 PM
Nov 2012

And his toes will curl up as he sinks in to a raunchy puddle.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
8. It would kill the GOP if they went along with it
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:01 PM
Nov 2012

When people are giving you billions of dollars specifically so you WON'T raise taxes on millionaires, one has to question why they would continue to do so if the GOP did.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
9. Kristol knows damn well it's not all millionaires
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:15 PM
Nov 2012

...they are concerned about. They're concerned about only ten of them. Koch, the Walmarts, Adelson, etc. The guys who fund their specific campaigns.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
13. They also know they can raise taxes on the "rich" without ever touching these people
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:36 PM
Nov 2012

If you raise the tax brackets on wage income, you don't affect investment income.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
10. Bwhahahaha.. Yesterday Hannity was
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:26 PM
Nov 2012

saying we need a policy to allow illegals already in the country to become legal.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
12. those Dems who voted for Obama and those that live in CA
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:33 PM
Nov 2012

have no problem with paying their fair share. They don't hide behind religion when it's convenient for them and they act the complete opposite of how they were commanded to to act.

It's those selfish, self-centered, self absorbed pseudo-xtians who cherry pick what parts of the bible they will follow that are the problem. They want to snatch food out of the mouths of poor people by cutting off social programs but be the first in line when FEMA rolls into town after a hurricane/tornado/flood with their hands out.

the problem millionares are the ones who own Papa John's pizza; or owns that coal plant; or that dude who built that obscene mansion or mittiot himself--the Dem voting/Hollywood millionares ain't got a problem with paying their fair share of the taxes.

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
20. I don't want to necessarily kill the GOP...
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:33 PM
Nov 2012

I just want to reduce it to the size that I can drag it to the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub!

*Let the crazies eat their own until there are none left!!*

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
23. Kristol says he doesn't beleive that raising taxes on the rich,
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:02 PM
Nov 2012
a little bit, won't hurt America. He knows perfectly well that it won't "hurt" America in anyway and it won't even hurt the rich. He also knows that raising taxes, a lot, on millionaires would be even better for America and it wouldn't kill the rich either.
They are so sure that none of us has read history or economic history and know what tax rates the rich used to pay, when this nation expected them to pay their share, 88% to 91%. The rich did not suffer under this "burden", in fact they and all Americans did better. The only way they had to avoid paying such high rates was to invest in American jobs, education, and infrastructure. They got returns on their investments, we had jobs, and we could afford to buy their products to fuel the capitalist economy.
Today the rich buy European castles, or build American McMansions, they buy jets rather than fly with the rabble, and they spend their money on propaganda to keep us in the dark.
The rules of the market place are not divine or natural, they are determined by the state. Its time for the state to recognize this role and do its job.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
24. Notice the new talking point?
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:21 PM
Nov 2012
"Really? The Republican Party is going to fall on its sword to defend a bunch of millionaires, half of whom voted Democratic and half of whom live in Hollywood?," Kristol said.

They're recasting their heroes (the wealthy) as their enemies (Democratic voters and Hollywood liberals). Notice also that he referred to them as "Democratic voters" rather than "Democrat voters".

Are they preparing their base for a concession on taxing the wealthy?

This is becoming very interesting.
 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
26. Kristol Apparently FORGOT:
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:04 PM
Nov 2012

his extremist GOP has a rather narrow, stupid agenda:

1.) keep taxes LOW for the uber-wealthy.

2.) whine about regulations "stifling business growth".

3.) whine about people "demanding stuff" from the government.

that's basically all they got at this point.



amborin

(16,631 posts)
27. his magnanimty is suspicious; i suspect they are going to ask for quid pro quo; tax hikes in exhang
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:11 PM
Nov 2012

for soc sec cuts eom

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