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kentuck

(111,106 posts) Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:58 PM Nov 2012

Repubs want everyone to believe that nothing has changed with the election...

They are still living in a world of delusion.

The Democrats gained seats in both the House and Senate and won the White House by a landslide proportion.

Nothing will change unless the Democrats do not want it to change. Will they be extorted once again by the criminals in the House? Or will the White House stand up to them this time?

Yes, they can make all kinds of threats. They will let the economy go off the fiscal cliff. They will not approve of raising the debt limit once again. They have a lot of no good they can do.

It could be argued that the President had to extend the Bush taxcuts the last time around because of the threats they made not to extend unemployment. Maybe they will make the same threat again?

If the President does nothing again and if Senator Reid does not change the filibuster rules in the Senate, then maybe, nothing has changed??

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Repubs want everyone to believe that nothing has changed with the election... (Original Post) kentuck Nov 2012 OP

They want us to think nothing has changed...I would like to take that word MANDATE and Tippy Nov 2012 #1

Let's not let them. We didn't allow them to fool us during the campaign BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #2

What would you suggest we do? kentuck Nov 2012 #3

As Dem's and DUer's- ruffburr Nov 2012 #8

Don't negotiate with terrorists quinnox Nov 2012 #4

if i were Obama i would construct the largest bully pulpit in the world and use it to hurt the right spanone Nov 2012 #5

That should be his goal... kentuck Nov 2012 #6

I thought Reid needed 60 votes to change Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #7

Yes. kentuck Nov 2012 #9

Really? Why hasnt he? Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #11

Because he thought the Repubs had a good chance of taking over the Senate... kentuck Nov 2012 #13

Another example of cognitive dissonance Harry_Scrote Nov 2012 #10

Tell them good luck with that. MANDATE 332 Scuba Nov 2012 #12

Let Obama negotiate with congress next year, not this lame-duck congress! reformist2 Nov 2012 #14

We need to push back and be vocal about understanding what they are doing and Skidmore Nov 2012 #15

The people have fucking spoken! kentuck Nov 2012 #16

Just because one shout went up doesn't mean that Skidmore Nov 2012 #17

We have a mandate. Our greatest danger is woo me with science Nov 2012 #18

Tippy

(4,610 posts)

1. They want us to think nothing has changed...I would like to take that word MANDATE and

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:03 PM

Nov 2012

shove up their ass, nose, or what ever

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)

2. Let's not let them. We didn't allow them to fool us during the campaign

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:06 PM

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and we definitely will not allow them to fool us now we've won in a landslide and have given our president a MANDATE.

kentuck

(111,106 posts)

3. What would you suggest we do?

Reply to BlueCaliDem (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:08 PM

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That we haven't already done??

ruffburr

(1,190 posts)

8. As Dem's and DUer's-

Reply to kentuck (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:17 PM

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What WE can do is every time the repubs try to stall this or that We BOMB the shit out of the offending rep/sen with petitions, e-mails ,tweets, facebook, etc.Just a thought

quinnox

(20,600 posts)

4. Don't negotiate with terrorists

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:09 PM

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Another duer put it colorfully, but it is true. These current House repugs are fiscal terrorists, and are trying to get what they want through despicable tactics. Don't reward them. Don't negotiate with fiscal terrorists. (by the way the "fiscal" part of that term is my own invention)

spanone

(135,854 posts)

5. if i were Obama i would construct the largest bully pulpit in the world and use it to hurt the right

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:09 PM

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kentuck

(111,106 posts)

6. That should be his goal...

Reply to spanone (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:11 PM

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if he wants to help the American people.

When he gets up in the morning, make it his duty to tell the American people what these no-account, good-for-nothings are doing. Use the bully pulpit to defeat them in 2014 and then something might get done? That would leave him two years. Otherwise, it's going to be another 4 years of the same crapola.

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)

7. I thought Reid needed 60 votes to change

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:14 PM

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The filibuster rules? Did I hear that wrong?

kentuck

(111,106 posts)

9. Yes.

Reply to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:17 PM

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They can change the Senate rules by a simple majority when the new Senate convenes...if they want to?

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)

11. Really? Why hasnt he?

Reply to kentuck (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:34 PM

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kentuck

(111,106 posts)

13. Because he thought the Repubs had a good chance of taking over the Senate...

Reply to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:23 PM

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since there were about 22 Democrats running for re-election and only about 10 Repubs. The rules would then apply to Democrats also.

Harry_Scrote

(121 posts)

10. Another example of cognitive dissonance

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:28 PM

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On one hand, there was this spiel about this being a monumental "Do or Die" election. But since they didn't win it, they are walking this monumental claim back as best they can.

Scuba

(53,475 posts)

12. Tell them good luck with that. MANDATE 332

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:35 PM

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reformist2

(9,841 posts)

14. Let Obama negotiate with congress next year, not this lame-duck congress!

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:24 PM

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Skidmore

(37,364 posts)

15. We need to push back and be vocal about understanding what they are doing and

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:26 PM

Nov 2012

get across that we will accept not hing less than they come to the table.

kentuck

(111,106 posts)

16. The people have fucking spoken!

Reply to Skidmore (Reply #15)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:32 PM

Nov 2012

How loud do they have to speak !!

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)

17. Just because one shout went up doesn't mean that

Reply to kentuck (Reply #16)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:41 PM

Nov 2012

we need to fall silent again. We need to continue until there are results. There are some of these folks who haven't internalized the message yet and still others who appear to have earplugs in.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)

18. We have a mandate. Our greatest danger is

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:50 PM

Nov 2012

that our own party would decide not to use it.

Did you see this excellent post by Dragonfli? http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021791044#post12 Our greatest danger comes from corporatists within our own party, who would argue us into passivity...again.

It's time to stop legitimizing the right-wing propaganda, no matter who is shoveling it. It is time to expose and label it for what it is.

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